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  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

    @canefan for players like them it becomes more mental fatigue with the intensity levels rather than the physical side of it, in my opinion of course.

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    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

    @canefan for players like them it becomes more mental fatigue with the intensity levels rather than the physical side of it, in my opinion of course.

    Yup.

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      I expect them to rotate for Scotland. It's an opportunity to give squad players a chance to get more test experience in case they're called upon next year. But I understand the sentiment around Perofeta, Ennor et al. I can't say I really want to watch them play much either, but then that's probably an issue with original squad selections. In hindsight (or not) I doubt anyone thinks Perofeta has a higher ceiling than Zarn Sullivan for example.

      Then there is also England. A 6 day turnaround isn't ideal. So giving a few key players a lighter workload this weekend is a good idea if the coaches want the best possible performance out of the team at Twickenham. And the last time they played each other was the World Cup, where the ABs got flogged. I'm keen for a statement performance.

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        #62

        I'd pick

        1. De Grott 2.Taylor 3. Ofa T 4. Vaii 5. Whitelock 6. A.Ioane 7 Papali'i 8. Sotutu 9. Weber 10. Mounga 11. C.Clarke 12. J. Barrett 13. ALB. 14. Reece 15. BB

        Bench Aumua, Bower, Laulala, S. Barrett, Frizzell, TJP, Havaii, Telea.

        Sami T, Lomax,Ardie Savea, Aaron Smith and Reiko Ioane get the week off so they're good to go against England

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          Perofeta and Ennor simply aren't All Black quality players in my opinion.

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          • sparkyS sparky

            I'd pick

            1. De Grott 2.Taylor 3. Ofa T 4. Vaii 5. Whitelock 6. A.Ioane 7 Papali'i 8. Sotutu 9. Weber 10. Mounga 11. C.Clarke 12. J. Barrett 13. ALB. 14. Reece 15. BB

            Bench Aumua, Bower, Laulala, S. Barrett, Frizzell, TJP, Havaii, Telea.

            Sami T, Lomax,Ardie Savea, Aaron Smith and Reiko Ioane get the week off so they're good to go against England

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            @sparky said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

            I'd pick

            1. De Grott 2.Taylor 3. Ofa T 4. Vaii 5. Whitelock 6. A.Ioane 7 Papali'i 8. Sotutu 9. Weber 10. Mounga 11. C.Clarke 12. J. Barrett 13. ALB. 14. Reece 15. BB

            Bench Aumua, Bower, Laulala, S. Barrett, Frizzell, TJP, Havaii, Telea.

            Sami T, Lomax,Ardie Savea, Aaron Smith and Reiko Ioane get the week off so they're good to go against England

            Doesn't make much sense to me to rest Taukieaho last week and then drop him all together this week.

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            • sparkyS sparky

              I'd pick

              1. De Grott 2.Taylor 3. Ofa T 4. Vaii 5. Whitelock 6. A.Ioane 7 Papali'i 8. Sotutu 9. Weber 10. Mounga 11. C.Clarke 12. J. Barrett 13. ALB. 14. Reece 15. BB

              Bench Aumua, Bower, Laulala, S. Barrett, Frizzell, TJP, Havaii, Telea.

              Sami T, Lomax,Ardie Savea, Aaron Smith and Reiko Ioane get the week off so they're good to go against England

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              @sparky said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

              I'd pick

              1. De Grott 2.Taylor 3. Ofa T 4. Vaii 5. Whitelock 6. A.Ioane 7 Papali'i 8. Sotutu 9. Weber 10. Mounga 11. C.Clarke 12. J. Barrett 13. ALB. 14. Reece 15. BB

              Bench Aumua, Bower, Laulala, S. Barrett, Frizzell, TJP, Havaii, Telea.

              Sami T, Lomax,Ardie Savea, Aaron Smith and Reiko Ioane get the week off so they're good to go against England

              Weber not available - rotated to ABXV.

              Can't pick too many other holes. But could say that for any number of combos.

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              • BonesB Bones

                @sparky said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                I'd pick

                1. De Grott 2.Taylor 3. Ofa T 4. Vaii 5. Whitelock 6. A.Ioane 7 Papali'i 8. Sotutu 9. Weber 10. Mounga 11. C.Clarke 12. J. Barrett 13. ALB. 14. Reece 15. BB

                Bench Aumua, Bower, Laulala, S. Barrett, Frizzell, TJP, Havaii, Telea.

                Sami T, Lomax,Ardie Savea, Aaron Smith and Reiko Ioane get the week off so they're good to go against England

                Doesn't make much sense to me to rest Taukieaho last week and then drop him all together this week.

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                @Bones said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                @sparky said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                I'd pick

                1. De Grott 2.Taylor 3. Ofa T 4. Vaii 5. Whitelock 6. A.Ioane 7 Papali'i 8. Sotutu 9. Weber 10. Mounga 11. C.Clarke 12. J. Barrett 13. ALB. 14. Reece 15. BB

                Bench Aumua, Bower, Laulala, S. Barrett, Frizzell, TJP, Havaii, Telea.

                Sami T, Lomax,Ardie Savea, Aaron Smith and Reiko Ioane get the week off so they're good to go against England

                Doesn't make much sense to me to rest Taukieaho last week and then drop him all together this week.

                Re Aumua. I am to think he's had issues with throwing. Is that correct? Otherwise I'm happy for him to come on in the impact role that ST occupied last week.

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                • boobooB booboo

                  @Bones said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                  @sparky said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                  I'd pick

                  1. De Grott 2.Taylor 3. Ofa T 4. Vaii 5. Whitelock 6. A.Ioane 7 Papali'i 8. Sotutu 9. Weber 10. Mounga 11. C.Clarke 12. J. Barrett 13. ALB. 14. Reece 15. BB

                  Bench Aumua, Bower, Laulala, S. Barrett, Frizzell, TJP, Havaii, Telea.

                  Sami T, Lomax,Ardie Savea, Aaron Smith and Reiko Ioane get the week off so they're good to go against England

                  Doesn't make much sense to me to rest Taukieaho last week and then drop him all together this week.

                  Re Aumua. I am to think he's had issues with throwing. Is that correct? Otherwise I'm happy for him to come on in the impact role that ST occupied last week.

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                  @booboo then he probably needs to start and ST off the bench, not ideal if we send ST into the English test off the back of 1 bench appearance in the previous 2 weeks.

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                    But do you want to beat England on the back of a loss to Scotland?

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                    • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                      But do you want to beat England on the back of a loss to Scotland?

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                      @MiketheSnow you said that wont happen after the Scotland v Fiji game....

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                      • boobooB booboo

                        @Bones said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                        @sparky said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                        I'd pick

                        1. De Grott 2.Taylor 3. Ofa T 4. Vaii 5. Whitelock 6. A.Ioane 7 Papali'i 8. Sotutu 9. Weber 10. Mounga 11. C.Clarke 12. J. Barrett 13. ALB. 14. Reece 15. BB

                        Bench Aumua, Bower, Laulala, S. Barrett, Frizzell, TJP, Havaii, Telea.

                        Sami T, Lomax,Ardie Savea, Aaron Smith and Reiko Ioane get the week off so they're good to go against England

                        Doesn't make much sense to me to rest Taukieaho last week and then drop him all together this week.

                        Re Aumua. I am to think he's had issues with throwing. Is that correct? Otherwise I'm happy for him to come on in the impact role that ST occupied last week.

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                        @booboo said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                        @Bones said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                        @sparky said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                        I'd pick

                        1. De Grott 2.Taylor 3. Ofa T 4. Vaii 5. Whitelock 6. A.Ioane 7 Papali'i 8. Sotutu 9. Weber 10. Mounga 11. C.Clarke 12. J. Barrett 13. ALB. 14. Reece 15. BB

                        Bench Aumua, Bower, Laulala, S. Barrett, Frizzell, TJP, Havaii, Telea.

                        Sami T, Lomax,Ardie Savea, Aaron Smith and Reiko Ioane get the week off so they're good to go against England

                        Doesn't make much sense to me to rest Taukieaho last week and then drop him all together this week.

                        Re Aumua. I am to think he's had issues with throwing. Is that correct? Otherwise I'm happy for him to come on in the impact role that ST occupied last week.

                        Aumua was excellent in the npc final. And mostly good throughout the npc. One off game was the Auckland semi

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                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                          @MiketheSnow you said that wont happen after the Scotland v Fiji game....

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                          @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                          @MiketheSnow you said that wont happen after the Scotland v Fiji game....

                          If Townsend swallows his pride and selects Russell who knows what could happen

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                            Feel free to move this to Foster

                            Been thinking about this whole coaching conundrum

                            As far as I’m concerned you pick the best 23 available to you every match

                            You can tinker with who starts and who finishes but you want your best charges present and correct at every opportunity

                            But how do you blood new players I hear you ask?

                            Ardie Savea is the best No 8 in the world at the moment

                            If Sotutu is chosen ahead of him based on merit not rotation then Sotutu can rightfully feel he’s possibly the best No 8 in the world

                            He’s trained day in day out with the best in the world (Savea) and been chosen ahead of him

                            That’s all he needs to perform

                            Not 10 minutes at the end of a match that’s already won against a side who are already beaten

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                            • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                              Feel free to move this to Foster

                              Been thinking about this whole coaching conundrum

                              As far as I’m concerned you pick the best 23 available to you every match

                              You can tinker with who starts and who finishes but you want your best charges present and correct at every opportunity

                              But how do you blood new players I hear you ask?

                              Ardie Savea is the best No 8 in the world at the moment

                              If Sotutu is chosen ahead of him based on merit not rotation then Sotutu can rightfully feel he’s possibly the best No 8 in the world

                              He’s trained day in day out with the best in the world (Savea) and been chosen ahead of him

                              That’s all he needs to perform

                              Not 10 minutes at the end of a match that’s already won against a side who are already beaten

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                              @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                              Feel free to move this to Foster

                              Been thinking about this whole coaching conundrum

                              As far as I’m concerned you pick the best 23 available to you every match

                              You can tinker with who starts and who finishes but you want your best charges present and correct at every opportunity

                              But how do you blood new players I hear you ask?

                              Ardie Savea is the best No 8 in the world at the moment

                              If Sotutu is chosen ahead of him based on merit not rotation then Sotutu can rightfully feel he’s possibly the best No 8 in the world

                              He’s trained day in day out with the best in the world (Savea) and been chosen ahead of him

                              That’s all he needs to perform

                              Not 10 minutes at the end of a match that’s already won against a side who are already beaten

                              Alldritt is very close.

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                                I just hope that Telea Harmon and Aumua get some time this weekend after missing the AB XV v La Rochelle XV match. OK if that is from the bench.

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                                  https://mobile.twitter.com/Scotlandteam/status/1589582279180812289

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                                  • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                    Feel free to move this to Foster

                                    Been thinking about this whole coaching conundrum

                                    As far as I’m concerned you pick the best 23 available to you every match

                                    You can tinker with who starts and who finishes but you want your best charges present and correct at every opportunity

                                    But how do you blood new players I hear you ask?

                                    Ardie Savea is the best No 8 in the world at the moment

                                    If Sotutu is chosen ahead of him based on merit not rotation then Sotutu can rightfully feel he’s possibly the best No 8 in the world

                                    He’s trained day in day out with the best in the world (Savea) and been chosen ahead of him

                                    That’s all he needs to perform

                                    Not 10 minutes at the end of a match that’s already won against a side who are already beaten

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                                    @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                                    Feel free to move this to Foster

                                    Been thinking about this whole coaching conundrum

                                    As far as I’m concerned you pick the best 23 available to you every match

                                    You can tinker with who starts and who finishes but you want your best charges present and correct at every opportunity

                                    But how do you blood new players I hear you ask?

                                    Ardie Savea is the best No 8 in the world at the moment

                                    If Sotutu is chosen ahead of him based on merit not rotation then Sotutu can rightfully feel he’s possibly the best No 8 in the world

                                    He’s trained day in day out with the best in the world (Savea) and been chosen ahead of him

                                    That’s all he needs to perform

                                    Not 10 minutes at the end of a match that’s already won against a side who are already beaten

                                    this is absolutely my opinion on "rotation" as well.

                                    with the slight caveat that at times, the best 23 for a weekend might be slightly different to the weekend before depending on who we are playing, or the fatigue status of a player

                                    Also, i don't think Savea is the best #8 in the world. Though he is the best A Savea in the world. And i have become comfortable with that. The coaches are just letting him roam around the field doing what he wants. He's not a 7, he's not an 8, he's not a 6. He just does shit. And that's pretty cool, because right now he is the difference maker in the pack. Build the other two loosies around him, and let him do his thing.

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                                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                      https://mobile.twitter.com/Scotlandteam/status/1589582279180812289

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                                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                                      https://mobile.twitter.com/Scotlandteam/status/1589582279180812289

                                      Great news.

                                      Scotland by 50

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                                      • C cgrant

                                        @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                                        Feel free to move this to Foster

                                        Been thinking about this whole coaching conundrum

                                        As far as I’m concerned you pick the best 23 available to you every match

                                        You can tinker with who starts and who finishes but you want your best charges present and correct at every opportunity

                                        But how do you blood new players I hear you ask?

                                        Ardie Savea is the best No 8 in the world at the moment

                                        If Sotutu is chosen ahead of him based on merit not rotation then Sotutu can rightfully feel he’s possibly the best No 8 in the world

                                        He’s trained day in day out with the best in the world (Savea) and been chosen ahead of him

                                        That’s all he needs to perform

                                        Not 10 minutes at the end of a match that’s already won against a side who are already beaten

                                        Alldritt is very close.

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                                        @cgrant said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                                        @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                                        Feel free to move this to Foster

                                        Been thinking about this whole coaching conundrum

                                        As far as I’m concerned you pick the best 23 available to you every match

                                        You can tinker with who starts and who finishes but you want your best charges present and correct at every opportunity

                                        But how do you blood new players I hear you ask?

                                        Ardie Savea is the best No 8 in the world at the moment

                                        If Sotutu is chosen ahead of him based on merit not rotation then Sotutu can rightfully feel he’s possibly the best No 8 in the world

                                        He’s trained day in day out with the best in the world (Savea) and been chosen ahead of him

                                        That’s all he needs to perform

                                        Not 10 minutes at the end of a match that’s already won against a side who are already beaten

                                        Alldritt is very close.

                                        France have always had some of my favourite number 8s. Harinordiquay, Chabal, Picamoles……what a bunch of talented psychos.

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                                        • MN5M MN5

                                          @cgrant said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                                          @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                                          Feel free to move this to Foster

                                          Been thinking about this whole coaching conundrum

                                          As far as I’m concerned you pick the best 23 available to you every match

                                          You can tinker with who starts and who finishes but you want your best charges present and correct at every opportunity

                                          But how do you blood new players I hear you ask?

                                          Ardie Savea is the best No 8 in the world at the moment

                                          If Sotutu is chosen ahead of him based on merit not rotation then Sotutu can rightfully feel he’s possibly the best No 8 in the world

                                          He’s trained day in day out with the best in the world (Savea) and been chosen ahead of him

                                          That’s all he needs to perform

                                          Not 10 minutes at the end of a match that’s already won against a side who are already beaten

                                          Alldritt is very close.

                                          France have always had some of my favourite number 8s. Harinordiquay, Chabal, Picamoles……what a bunch of talented psychos.

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                                          @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                                          @cgrant said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                                          @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                                          Feel free to move this to Foster

                                          Been thinking about this whole coaching conundrum

                                          As far as I’m concerned you pick the best 23 available to you every match

                                          You can tinker with who starts and who finishes but you want your best charges present and correct at every opportunity

                                          But how do you blood new players I hear you ask?

                                          Ardie Savea is the best No 8 in the world at the moment

                                          If Sotutu is chosen ahead of him based on merit not rotation then Sotutu can rightfully feel he’s possibly the best No 8 in the world

                                          He’s trained day in day out with the best in the world (Savea) and been chosen ahead of him

                                          That’s all he needs to perform

                                          Not 10 minutes at the end of a match that’s already won against a side who are already beaten

                                          Alldritt is very close.

                                          France have always had some of my favourite number 8s. Harinordiquay, Chabal, Picamoles……what a bunch of talented psychos.

                                          You ok Hun? You completely bypassed a chance to mention Cecillion.

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