Hurricanes 2023
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@foobaNZ said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Winger that would be a shame IWL & Sangster are the best options for me.
Will it be shame though? Blackwell and Bird outperformed Walker-Leawere in both clashes this year when the Lions and Magpies met. I'm a big fan of Walker-Leawere but he really needs to lift his work-rate. Sangster though has been impressive for BOP and continues to go from strength to strength.
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@foobaNZ said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Winger that would be a shame IWL & Sangster are the best options for me.
Will it be shame though? Blackwell and Bird outperformed Walker-Leawere in both clashes this year when the Lions and Magpies met. I'm a big fan of Walker-Leawere but he really needs to lift his work-rate. Sangster though has been impressive for BOP and continues to go from strength to strength.
@Canes4life IWL is a menace in the tackle and at maul time in particular. That weight and ability to hold the player up puts him ahead of the Lions pair for me (and as you know I'm a Lions fan!)
He also seems to play his best footy for the Canes.
But - I'm happy with any of the 4. Blackwell like Proctor has ironed out the issues in his game. He's still undersized but when we're not playing Saffa teams anymore it's not as relevant.
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@Canes4life IWL is a menace in the tackle and at maul time in particular. That weight and ability to hold the player up puts him ahead of the Lions pair for me (and as you know I'm a Lions fan!)
He also seems to play his best footy for the Canes.
But - I'm happy with any of the 4. Blackwell like Proctor has ironed out the issues in his game. He's still undersized but when we're not playing Saffa teams anymore it's not as relevant.
@foobaNZ Im not a Blackwell fan. Far from it. But the Blackwell,bird,Delany combination was first rate for Wellington. I'm still hoping for IWL to come good but he seems to go missing in games. Increase his workrate and he would start. Until then he's a replacement option. A good one with his size and strength
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I was certainly in the IWL bandwagon earlier this year but Dominic Bird has been outstanding in September and October. Nothing flashy but his cleaning in the rucks has allowed the Lions to get quick ball. During the final, his support of Lakai when he took out two Cantab defenders, was just delightful. He thus allowed Asafo Aumua to score his try. His presence is also a major factor in the way the Lions scrum held its own against teams with a higher reputation in this domain.
Sangster has been outstanding too but could remain behind Blackwell who is one of Holland's favorite. -
With Alex Fidow announcing that he’s moving on from the Canes and other players rumoured to be leaving, who do the Hurricanes need to sign to make them a genuine title threat in 2023?
Those that have signed for next year already are: (rumours that Prinsep may head off early)
Signed for 2023:
- Owen Franks
- Tyrel Lomax
- Xavier Numia
- Asafo Aumua
- Dane Coles
- Ardie Savea
- James Blackwell
- Du Plessis Kirifi
- Reed Prinsep
- TJ Perenara
- Bailyn Sullivan
- Julian Savea
- Salesi Rayasi
- Ruben Love
2024:
- Aiden Morgan
Linked to first post
The Canes finish with some tough games (Chiefs and Blues away and Crusaders at home) but until then it's a good draw. Team play Blues Chiefs and MP twice.
THE HURRICANES FULL SUPER RUGBY PACIFIC DRAW: (ALL TIMES NZT)
RD1: Reds v Hurricanes, Saturday 25 February, Queensland, 9:45PM
RD2: Rebels v Hurricanes, Friday 3 March, Melbourne, 10:10PM
RD3: Hurricanes v Blues, Saturday 11 March, Wellington, 7:05PM
RD4: Hurricanes v Waratahs, Friday 17 March, Wellington, 7:05PM
RD5: Moana Pasifika v Hurricanes, Saturday 25 March, Auckland, 7:05PM
RD6: Hurricanes v Force, Sunday 2 April, CET Arena, Palmerston North, 3:35PM
RD7: Highlanders v Hurricanes, Saturday 8 April, Dunedin, 7:05PM
RD8: Hurricanes v Chiefs, Saturday 15 April, Wellington, 7:05PM
RD9: BYE
RD10: Hurricanes v Brumbies, Friday 28 April, Wellington, 7:05PM
RD11: Fijian Drua v Hurricanes, Saturday 6 May, Suva, 2:05PM
RD12: Hurricanes v Moana Pasifika, Saturday 13 May, Wellington, 4:35PM
RD13: Chiefs v Hurricanes, Saturday 20 May, Hamilton, 7:05PM
RD14: Blues v Hurricanes, Saturday 27 May, Auckland, 7:05PM
RD15: Hurricanes v Crusaders, Saturday 3 June, Wellington, 7:05PMhttps://www.hurricanes.co.nz/news/article/hurricanes-2023-squad-announced/
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@Canes4life Again? They've had a few preseason games in Levin. I wonder if they're going to completely ignore Hawke's Bay again. Last year, they had excuse. This season, none at all.
@Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Canes4life Again? They've had a few preseason games in Levin. I wonder if they're going to completely ignore Hawke's Bay again. Last year, they had excuse. This season, none at all.
Don’t Horowhenua have a big stake in the Canes? Maybe that’s why?
I’ll most likely head along. I went to the last one played there a few years ago before COVID came along.
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TJ Perenara pretty much gone for the Super season. Big opportunity for Cam Roigard to get plenty of minutes in 2022, and potentially an opportunity for Richard Judd.
Who's likely to fill the gap?
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TJ Perenara pretty much gone for the Super season. Big opportunity for Cam Roigard to get plenty of minutes in 2022, and potentially an opportunity for Richard Judd.
Who's likely to fill the gap?
@Canes4life Disappointing for TJP and the Canes. Injuries suck for both players and teams!
So the Canes need someone to be the 3rd halfback behind Roigard and Booth. So many of NZ depth going overseas to the MLR and Japan makes it more difficult to find good back-up.
Looking at halfbacks from the region without a SR contract, Richard Judd, Luke Campbell and Connor McLeod (who is only the 3rd hb for the Magpies, so probably wouldn't be picked anyway) are all off to the USA. Judd would have been the player to get a call-up if he'd been available.
All others will be a step down, but there aren't too many options. Lisati Milo-Harris (Northland) may be available; he has SR experience. Liam Blyde (Taranaki) looked handy during the NPC. Then there's ex-Wellington, now Otago, Kemara Hauiti-Parapara, who got a lot of game time during the NPC.
The best halfback from the NZ U20s, Hotham, is taken. I don't think the others are ready? Adam Lennox was behind Blyde for Taranaki.
Off the Hurricanes U20 halfbacks, Jordie Viljoen is a great talent and he played well for NZ U19s, but he's too young.
It will be interesting who'll get the call-up. I think I'd go with Blyde, but I probably missed some other available players.
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@Canes4life Disappointing for TJP and the Canes. Injuries suck for both players and teams!
So the Canes need someone to be the 3rd halfback behind Roigard and Booth. So many of NZ depth going overseas to the MLR and Japan makes it more difficult to find good back-up.
Looking at halfbacks from the region without a SR contract, Richard Judd, Luke Campbell and Connor McLeod (who is only the 3rd hb for the Magpies, so probably wouldn't be picked anyway) are all off to the USA. Judd would have been the player to get a call-up if he'd been available.
All others will be a step down, but there aren't too many options. Lisati Milo-Harris (Northland) may be available; he has SR experience. Liam Blyde (Taranaki) looked handy during the NPC. Then there's ex-Wellington, now Otago, Kemara Hauiti-Parapara, who got a lot of game time during the NPC.
The best halfback from the NZ U20s, Hotham, is taken. I don't think the others are ready? Adam Lennox was behind Blyde for Taranaki.
Off the Hurricanes U20 halfbacks, Jordie Viljoen is a great talent and he played well for NZ U19s, but he's too young.
It will be interesting who'll get the call-up. I think I'd go with Blyde, but I probably missed some other available players.
@Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Canes4life Disappointing for TJP and the Canes. Injuries suck for both players and teams!
So the Canes need someone to be the 3rd halfback behind Roigard and Booth. So many of NZ depth going overseas to the MLR and Japan makes it more difficult to find good back-up.
Looking at halfbacks from the region without a SR contract, Richard Judd, Luke Campbell and Connor McLeod (who is only the 3rd hb for the Magpies, so probably wouldn't be picked anyway) are all off to the USA. Judd would have been the player to get a call-up if he'd been available.
All others will be a step down, but there aren't too many options. Lisati Milo-Harris (Northland) may be available; he has SR experience. Liam Blyde (Taranaki) looked handy during the NPC. Then there's ex-Wellington, now Otago, Kemara Hauiti-Parapara, who got a lot of game time during the NPC.
The best halfback from the NZ U20s, Hotham, is taken. I don't think the others are ready? Adam Lennox was behind Blyde for Taranaki.
Off the Hurricanes U20 halfbacks, Jordie Viljoen is a great talent and he played well for NZ U19s, but he's too young.
It will be interesting who'll get the call-up. I think I'd go with Blyde, but I probably missed some other available players.
I've got a feeling Luke Campbell signed overseas. There's also Logan Henry who made his debut last season, I'm pretty sure he will be hanging around somewhere. I would probably go with Richard Judd, he was solid without being spectacular in the NPC but has plenty of experience which we may need now.
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@Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Canes4life Disappointing for TJP and the Canes. Injuries suck for both players and teams!
So the Canes need someone to be the 3rd halfback behind Roigard and Booth. So many of NZ depth going overseas to the MLR and Japan makes it more difficult to find good back-up.
Looking at halfbacks from the region without a SR contract, Richard Judd, Luke Campbell and Connor McLeod (who is only the 3rd hb for the Magpies, so probably wouldn't be picked anyway) are all off to the USA. Judd would have been the player to get a call-up if he'd been available.
All others will be a step down, but there aren't too many options. Lisati Milo-Harris (Northland) may be available; he has SR experience. Liam Blyde (Taranaki) looked handy during the NPC. Then there's ex-Wellington, now Otago, Kemara Hauiti-Parapara, who got a lot of game time during the NPC.
The best halfback from the NZ U20s, Hotham, is taken. I don't think the others are ready? Adam Lennox was behind Blyde for Taranaki.
Off the Hurricanes U20 halfbacks, Jordie Viljoen is a great talent and he played well for NZ U19s, but he's too young.
It will be interesting who'll get the call-up. I think I'd go with Blyde, but I probably missed some other available players.
I've got a feeling Luke Campbell signed overseas. There's also Logan Henry who made his debut last season, I'm pretty sure he will be hanging around somewhere. I would probably go with Richard Judd, he was solid without being spectacular in the NPC but has plenty of experience which we may need now.
@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Canes4life Disappointing for TJP and the Canes. Injuries suck for both players and teams!
So the Canes need someone to be the 3rd halfback behind Roigard and Booth. So many of NZ depth going overseas to the MLR and Japan makes it more difficult to find good back-up.
Looking at halfbacks from the region without a SR contract, Richard Judd, Luke Campbell and Connor McLeod (who is only the 3rd hb for the Magpies, so probably wouldn't be picked anyway) are all off to the USA. Judd would have been the player to get a call-up if he'd been available.
All others will be a step down, but there aren't too many options. Lisati Milo-Harris (Northland) may be available; he has SR experience. Liam Blyde (Taranaki) looked handy during the NPC. Then there's ex-Wellington, now Otago, Kemara Hauiti-Parapara, who got a lot of game time during the NPC.
The best halfback from the NZ U20s, Hotham, is taken. I don't think the others are ready? Adam Lennox was behind Blyde for Taranaki.
Off the Hurricanes U20 halfbacks, Jordie Viljoen is a great talent and he played well for NZ U19s, but he's too young.
It will be interesting who'll get the call-up. I think I'd go with Blyde, but I probably missed some other available players.
I've got a feeling Luke Campbell signed overseas. There's also Logan Henry who made his debut last season, I'm pretty sure he will be hanging around somewhere. I would probably go with Richard Judd, he was solid without being spectacular in the NPC but has plenty of experience which we may need now.
I think you may need to re-read my post.
I don't really rate Logan Henry.
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@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Canes4life Disappointing for TJP and the Canes. Injuries suck for both players and teams!
So the Canes need someone to be the 3rd halfback behind Roigard and Booth. So many of NZ depth going overseas to the MLR and Japan makes it more difficult to find good back-up.
Looking at halfbacks from the region without a SR contract, Richard Judd, Luke Campbell and Connor McLeod (who is only the 3rd hb for the Magpies, so probably wouldn't be picked anyway) are all off to the USA. Judd would have been the player to get a call-up if he'd been available.
All others will be a step down, but there aren't too many options. Lisati Milo-Harris (Northland) may be available; he has SR experience. Liam Blyde (Taranaki) looked handy during the NPC. Then there's ex-Wellington, now Otago, Kemara Hauiti-Parapara, who got a lot of game time during the NPC.
The best halfback from the NZ U20s, Hotham, is taken. I don't think the others are ready? Adam Lennox was behind Blyde for Taranaki.
Off the Hurricanes U20 halfbacks, Jordie Viljoen is a great talent and he played well for NZ U19s, but he's too young.
It will be interesting who'll get the call-up. I think I'd go with Blyde, but I probably missed some other available players.
I've got a feeling Luke Campbell signed overseas. There's also Logan Henry who made his debut last season, I'm pretty sure he will be hanging around somewhere. I would probably go with Richard Judd, he was solid without being spectacular in the NPC but has plenty of experience which we may need now.
I think you may need to re-read my post.
I don't really rate Logan Henry.
@Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Canes4life Disappointing for TJP and the Canes. Injuries suck for both players and teams!
So the Canes need someone to be the 3rd halfback behind Roigard and Booth. So many of NZ depth going overseas to the MLR and Japan makes it more difficult to find good back-up.
Looking at halfbacks from the region without a SR contract, Richard Judd, Luke Campbell and Connor McLeod (who is only the 3rd hb for the Magpies, so probably wouldn't be picked anyway) are all off to the USA. Judd would have been the player to get a call-up if he'd been available.
All others will be a step down, but there aren't too many options. Lisati Milo-Harris (Northland) may be available; he has SR experience. Liam Blyde (Taranaki) looked handy during the NPC. Then there's ex-Wellington, now Otago, Kemara Hauiti-Parapara, who got a lot of game time during the NPC.
The best halfback from the NZ U20s, Hotham, is taken. I don't think the others are ready? Adam Lennox was behind Blyde for Taranaki.
Off the Hurricanes U20 halfbacks, Jordie Viljoen is a great talent and he played well for NZ U19s, but he's too young.
It will be interesting who'll get the call-up. I think I'd go with Blyde, but I probably missed some other available players.
I've got a feeling Luke Campbell signed overseas. There's also Logan Henry who made his debut last season, I'm pretty sure he will be hanging around somewhere. I would probably go with Richard Judd, he was solid without being spectacular in the NPC but has plenty of experience which we may need now.
I think you may need to re-read my post.
I don't really rate Logan Henry.
Logan Henry would probably be the guy then I'd say considering he's been around the squad. I don't rate him too highly either.
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@ARHS said in Hurricanes 2023:
Or do you try to talk around Leroy Carter from his sevens deal? That would be my first go to
Not a bad call, is he a halfback?
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@ARHS said in Hurricanes 2023:
Or do you try to talk around Leroy Carter from his sevens deal? That would be my first go to
Not a bad call, is he a halfback?
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@Canes4life Didn't you watch NPC? He was the BOP halfback.
@Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Canes4life Didn't you watch NPC? He was the BOP halfback.
Wasn't he playing on the wing? I know Carter played for the Canes in pre-season last year but just couldn't remember what position.
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@Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Canes4life Didn't you watch NPC? He was the BOP halfback.
Wasn't he playing on the wing? I know Carter played for the Canes in pre-season last year but just couldn't remember what position.
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@Canes4life Yeah, you're right. He played on the wing in the finals where his sevens experience was very useful. He was only available after sevens had finished so he only played one regular season game. At halfback.
@Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Canes4life Yeah, you're right. He played on the wing in the finals where his sevens experience was very useful. He was only available after sevens had finished so he only played one regular season game. At halfback.
I’d certainly prefer him over Henry.
