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  • StargazerS Stargazer

    @Canes4life Again? They've had a few preseason games in Levin. I wonder if they're going to completely ignore Hawke's Bay again. Last year, they had excuse. This season, none at all.

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    @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

    @Canes4life Again? They've had a few preseason games in Levin. I wonder if they're going to completely ignore Hawke's Bay again. Last year, they had excuse. This season, none at all.

    Don’t Horowhenua have a big stake in the Canes? Maybe that’s why?

    I’ll most likely head along. I went to the last one played there a few years ago before COVID came along.

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      TJ Perenara pretty much gone for the Super season. Big opportunity for Cam Roigard to get plenty of minutes in 2022, and potentially an opportunity for Richard Judd.

      Who's likely to fill the gap?

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/130532404/were-gutted-for-him-all-blacks-halfback-tj-perenara-ruptures-achilles

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        That's a real shame as he had a memorable last month or two.

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        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

          TJ Perenara pretty much gone for the Super season. Big opportunity for Cam Roigard to get plenty of minutes in 2022, and potentially an opportunity for Richard Judd.

          Who's likely to fill the gap?

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/130532404/were-gutted-for-him-all-blacks-halfback-tj-perenara-ruptures-achilles

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          @Canes4life Disappointing for TJP and the Canes. Injuries suck for both players and teams!

          So the Canes need someone to be the 3rd halfback behind Roigard and Booth. So many of NZ depth going overseas to the MLR and Japan makes it more difficult to find good back-up.

          Looking at halfbacks from the region without a SR contract, Richard Judd, Luke Campbell and Connor McLeod (who is only the 3rd hb for the Magpies, so probably wouldn't be picked anyway) are all off to the USA. Judd would have been the player to get a call-up if he'd been available.

          All others will be a step down, but there aren't too many options. Lisati Milo-Harris (Northland) may be available; he has SR experience. Liam Blyde (Taranaki) looked handy during the NPC. Then there's ex-Wellington, now Otago, Kemara Hauiti-Parapara, who got a lot of game time during the NPC.

          The best halfback from the NZ U20s, Hotham, is taken. I don't think the others are ready? Adam Lennox was behind Blyde for Taranaki.

          Off the Hurricanes U20 halfbacks, Jordie Viljoen is a great talent and he played well for NZ U19s, but he's too young.

          It will be interesting who'll get the call-up. I think I'd go with Blyde, but I probably missed some other available players.

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          • StargazerS Stargazer

            @Canes4life Disappointing for TJP and the Canes. Injuries suck for both players and teams!

            So the Canes need someone to be the 3rd halfback behind Roigard and Booth. So many of NZ depth going overseas to the MLR and Japan makes it more difficult to find good back-up.

            Looking at halfbacks from the region without a SR contract, Richard Judd, Luke Campbell and Connor McLeod (who is only the 3rd hb for the Magpies, so probably wouldn't be picked anyway) are all off to the USA. Judd would have been the player to get a call-up if he'd been available.

            All others will be a step down, but there aren't too many options. Lisati Milo-Harris (Northland) may be available; he has SR experience. Liam Blyde (Taranaki) looked handy during the NPC. Then there's ex-Wellington, now Otago, Kemara Hauiti-Parapara, who got a lot of game time during the NPC.

            The best halfback from the NZ U20s, Hotham, is taken. I don't think the others are ready? Adam Lennox was behind Blyde for Taranaki.

            Off the Hurricanes U20 halfbacks, Jordie Viljoen is a great talent and he played well for NZ U19s, but he's too young.

            It will be interesting who'll get the call-up. I think I'd go with Blyde, but I probably missed some other available players.

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            @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

            @Canes4life Disappointing for TJP and the Canes. Injuries suck for both players and teams!

            So the Canes need someone to be the 3rd halfback behind Roigard and Booth. So many of NZ depth going overseas to the MLR and Japan makes it more difficult to find good back-up.

            Looking at halfbacks from the region without a SR contract, Richard Judd, Luke Campbell and Connor McLeod (who is only the 3rd hb for the Magpies, so probably wouldn't be picked anyway) are all off to the USA. Judd would have been the player to get a call-up if he'd been available.

            All others will be a step down, but there aren't too many options. Lisati Milo-Harris (Northland) may be available; he has SR experience. Liam Blyde (Taranaki) looked handy during the NPC. Then there's ex-Wellington, now Otago, Kemara Hauiti-Parapara, who got a lot of game time during the NPC.

            The best halfback from the NZ U20s, Hotham, is taken. I don't think the others are ready? Adam Lennox was behind Blyde for Taranaki.

            Off the Hurricanes U20 halfbacks, Jordie Viljoen is a great talent and he played well for NZ U19s, but he's too young.

            It will be interesting who'll get the call-up. I think I'd go with Blyde, but I probably missed some other available players.

            I've got a feeling Luke Campbell signed overseas. There's also Logan Henry who made his debut last season, I'm pretty sure he will be hanging around somewhere. I would probably go with Richard Judd, he was solid without being spectacular in the NPC but has plenty of experience which we may need now.

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            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

              @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

              @Canes4life Disappointing for TJP and the Canes. Injuries suck for both players and teams!

              So the Canes need someone to be the 3rd halfback behind Roigard and Booth. So many of NZ depth going overseas to the MLR and Japan makes it more difficult to find good back-up.

              Looking at halfbacks from the region without a SR contract, Richard Judd, Luke Campbell and Connor McLeod (who is only the 3rd hb for the Magpies, so probably wouldn't be picked anyway) are all off to the USA. Judd would have been the player to get a call-up if he'd been available.

              All others will be a step down, but there aren't too many options. Lisati Milo-Harris (Northland) may be available; he has SR experience. Liam Blyde (Taranaki) looked handy during the NPC. Then there's ex-Wellington, now Otago, Kemara Hauiti-Parapara, who got a lot of game time during the NPC.

              The best halfback from the NZ U20s, Hotham, is taken. I don't think the others are ready? Adam Lennox was behind Blyde for Taranaki.

              Off the Hurricanes U20 halfbacks, Jordie Viljoen is a great talent and he played well for NZ U19s, but he's too young.

              It will be interesting who'll get the call-up. I think I'd go with Blyde, but I probably missed some other available players.

              I've got a feeling Luke Campbell signed overseas. There's also Logan Henry who made his debut last season, I'm pretty sure he will be hanging around somewhere. I would probably go with Richard Judd, he was solid without being spectacular in the NPC but has plenty of experience which we may need now.

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              @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

              @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

              @Canes4life Disappointing for TJP and the Canes. Injuries suck for both players and teams!

              So the Canes need someone to be the 3rd halfback behind Roigard and Booth. So many of NZ depth going overseas to the MLR and Japan makes it more difficult to find good back-up.

              Looking at halfbacks from the region without a SR contract, Richard Judd, Luke Campbell and Connor McLeod (who is only the 3rd hb for the Magpies, so probably wouldn't be picked anyway) are all off to the USA. Judd would have been the player to get a call-up if he'd been available.

              All others will be a step down, but there aren't too many options. Lisati Milo-Harris (Northland) may be available; he has SR experience. Liam Blyde (Taranaki) looked handy during the NPC. Then there's ex-Wellington, now Otago, Kemara Hauiti-Parapara, who got a lot of game time during the NPC.

              The best halfback from the NZ U20s, Hotham, is taken. I don't think the others are ready? Adam Lennox was behind Blyde for Taranaki.

              Off the Hurricanes U20 halfbacks, Jordie Viljoen is a great talent and he played well for NZ U19s, but he's too young.

              It will be interesting who'll get the call-up. I think I'd go with Blyde, but I probably missed some other available players.

              I've got a feeling Luke Campbell signed overseas. There's also Logan Henry who made his debut last season, I'm pretty sure he will be hanging around somewhere. I would probably go with Richard Judd, he was solid without being spectacular in the NPC but has plenty of experience which we may need now.

              I think you may need to re-read my post.

              I don't really rate Logan Henry.

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                @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

                @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

                @Canes4life Disappointing for TJP and the Canes. Injuries suck for both players and teams!

                So the Canes need someone to be the 3rd halfback behind Roigard and Booth. So many of NZ depth going overseas to the MLR and Japan makes it more difficult to find good back-up.

                Looking at halfbacks from the region without a SR contract, Richard Judd, Luke Campbell and Connor McLeod (who is only the 3rd hb for the Magpies, so probably wouldn't be picked anyway) are all off to the USA. Judd would have been the player to get a call-up if he'd been available.

                All others will be a step down, but there aren't too many options. Lisati Milo-Harris (Northland) may be available; he has SR experience. Liam Blyde (Taranaki) looked handy during the NPC. Then there's ex-Wellington, now Otago, Kemara Hauiti-Parapara, who got a lot of game time during the NPC.

                The best halfback from the NZ U20s, Hotham, is taken. I don't think the others are ready? Adam Lennox was behind Blyde for Taranaki.

                Off the Hurricanes U20 halfbacks, Jordie Viljoen is a great talent and he played well for NZ U19s, but he's too young.

                It will be interesting who'll get the call-up. I think I'd go with Blyde, but I probably missed some other available players.

                I've got a feeling Luke Campbell signed overseas. There's also Logan Henry who made his debut last season, I'm pretty sure he will be hanging around somewhere. I would probably go with Richard Judd, he was solid without being spectacular in the NPC but has plenty of experience which we may need now.

                I think you may need to re-read my post.

                I don't really rate Logan Henry.

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                @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

                @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

                @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

                @Canes4life Disappointing for TJP and the Canes. Injuries suck for both players and teams!

                So the Canes need someone to be the 3rd halfback behind Roigard and Booth. So many of NZ depth going overseas to the MLR and Japan makes it more difficult to find good back-up.

                Looking at halfbacks from the region without a SR contract, Richard Judd, Luke Campbell and Connor McLeod (who is only the 3rd hb for the Magpies, so probably wouldn't be picked anyway) are all off to the USA. Judd would have been the player to get a call-up if he'd been available.

                All others will be a step down, but there aren't too many options. Lisati Milo-Harris (Northland) may be available; he has SR experience. Liam Blyde (Taranaki) looked handy during the NPC. Then there's ex-Wellington, now Otago, Kemara Hauiti-Parapara, who got a lot of game time during the NPC.

                The best halfback from the NZ U20s, Hotham, is taken. I don't think the others are ready? Adam Lennox was behind Blyde for Taranaki.

                Off the Hurricanes U20 halfbacks, Jordie Viljoen is a great talent and he played well for NZ U19s, but he's too young.

                It will be interesting who'll get the call-up. I think I'd go with Blyde, but I probably missed some other available players.

                I've got a feeling Luke Campbell signed overseas. There's also Logan Henry who made his debut last season, I'm pretty sure he will be hanging around somewhere. I would probably go with Richard Judd, he was solid without being spectacular in the NPC but has plenty of experience which we may need now.

                I think you may need to re-read my post.

                I don't really rate Logan Henry.

                Logan Henry would probably be the guy then I'd say considering he's been around the squad. I don't rate him too highly either.

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                  Or do you try to talk around Leroy Carter from his sevens deal? That would be my first go to

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                    Or do you try to talk around Leroy Carter from his sevens deal? That would be my first go to

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                    @ARHS said in Hurricanes 2023:

                    Or do you try to talk around Leroy Carter from his sevens deal? That would be my first go to

                    Not a bad call, is he a halfback?

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                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                      @ARHS said in Hurricanes 2023:

                      Or do you try to talk around Leroy Carter from his sevens deal? That would be my first go to

                      Not a bad call, is he a halfback?

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                      @Canes4life Didn't you watch NPC? He was the BOP halfback.

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                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                        @Canes4life Didn't you watch NPC? He was the BOP halfback.

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                        @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

                        @Canes4life Didn't you watch NPC? He was the BOP halfback.

                        Wasn't he playing on the wing? I know Carter played for the Canes in pre-season last year but just couldn't remember what position.

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                        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                          @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

                          @Canes4life Didn't you watch NPC? He was the BOP halfback.

                          Wasn't he playing on the wing? I know Carter played for the Canes in pre-season last year but just couldn't remember what position.

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                          @Canes4life Yeah, you're right. He played on the wing in the finals where his sevens experience was very useful. He was only available after sevens had finished so he only played one regular season game. At halfback.

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                            @Canes4life Yeah, you're right. He played on the wing in the finals where his sevens experience was very useful. He was only available after sevens had finished so he only played one regular season game. At halfback.

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                            @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

                            @Canes4life Yeah, you're right. He played on the wing in the finals where his sevens experience was very useful. He was only available after sevens had finished so he only played one regular season game. At halfback.

                            I’d certainly prefer him over Henry.

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                            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                              TJ Perenara pretty much gone for the Super season. Big opportunity for Cam Roigard to get plenty of minutes in 2022, and potentially an opportunity for Richard Judd.

                              Who's likely to fill the gap?

                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/130532404/were-gutted-for-him-all-blacks-halfback-tj-perenara-ruptures-achilles

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                                @Higgins said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                @Nepia I will come to the defence of @Canes4life here. He has stopped fluffing Alex Fidow (and to a leser extent Xavier Numia) for about 18 months now. Whether that is because he no longer falls into the young Wellington players category or he has finally accepted and agreed with me that Mr. Fidow will never master the arts for propping to be effective at any level over Premier Reserve club level (Ories don't always start him at prop).

                                Where’s Fidow off to? I know he’s playing Harbour in NPC but is he off overseas after that? Still v.young and might round out his game with a stint in Europe for a few years.

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                                @TheMojoman not sure if this has already been posted but he's turned up at Souths Logan Magpies! Probably on a train and trial deal with either the Broncos, Titans or Dolphins ?

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                                  @TheMojoman not sure if this has already been posted but he's turned up at Souths Logan Magpies! Probably on a train and trial deal with either the Broncos, Titans or Dolphins ?

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                                  @Nogusta said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                  Souths Logan Magpies

                                  Might be able to hold his own in scrums in that sport!

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                                    @Canes4life said in Exodus:

                                    @Stargazer said in Exodus:

                                    @Higgins Not many! What's left is probably NPC third-stringers and recent school leavers from provincial academy squads, some of whom will appear in the Super Rugby U20 comp!

                                    Anyone know who's in the Canes WTG? I'm assuming guys like Siale Lauaki, Harry Godfrey, Raymond Tuputupu who performed well for the Hurricanes Under 20s.

                                    Answering this here.

                                    I haven't seen any names. I guess we'll have to go through the photos of preseason again to find out, because the Canes don't tend to post the WTG.

                                    I think we can expect players from the Hurricanes area that were in the NZU19s and NZ U20s, and then a few NPC players who haven't left New Zealand.

                                    So, in addition to the names you mention, Cooper Flanders, Jordi Viljoen and Epeli Waqaicece. Maybe PJ Sheck and Kianu Kereru-Symes (if he doesn't go to the MLR as rumoured). Maybe a few provincial academy players, and old-timers who are at the end of their career..

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                                      Peter UJ still with his arm in a sling. From his brother's instagram.

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                                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                                        @Canes4life said in Exodus:

                                        @Stargazer said in Exodus:

                                        @Higgins Not many! What's left is probably NPC third-stringers and recent school leavers from provincial academy squads, some of whom will appear in the Super Rugby U20 comp!

                                        Anyone know who's in the Canes WTG? I'm assuming guys like Siale Lauaki, Harry Godfrey, Raymond Tuputupu who performed well for the Hurricanes Under 20s.

                                        Answering this here.

                                        I haven't seen any names. I guess we'll have to go through the photos of preseason again to find out, because the Canes don't tend to post the WTG.

                                        I think we can expect players from the Hurricanes area that were in the NZU19s and NZ U20s, and then a few NPC players who haven't left New Zealand.

                                        So, in addition to the names you mention, Cooper Flanders, Jordi Viljoen and Epeli Waqaicece. Maybe PJ Sheck and Kianu Kereru-Symes (if he doesn't go to the MLR as rumoured). Maybe a few provincial academy players, and old-timers who are at the end of their career..

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                                        @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                        @Canes4life said in Exodus:

                                        @Stargazer said in Exodus:

                                        @Higgins Not many! What's left is probably NPC third-stringers and recent school leavers from provincial academy squads, some of whom will appear in the Super Rugby U20 comp!

                                        Anyone know who's in the Canes WTG? I'm assuming guys like Siale Lauaki, Harry Godfrey, Raymond Tuputupu who performed well for the Hurricanes Under 20s.

                                        Answering this here.

                                        I haven't seen any names. I guess we'll have to go through the photos of preseason again to find out, because the Canes don't tend to post the WTG.

                                        I think we can expect players from the Hurricanes area that were in the NZU19s and NZ U20s, and then a few NPC players who haven't left New Zealand.

                                        So, in addition to the names you mention, Cooper Flanders, Jordi Viljoen and Epeli Waqaicece. Maybe PJ Sheck and Kianu Kereru-Symes (if he doesn't go to the MLR as rumoured). Maybe a few provincial academy players, and old-timers who are at the end of their career..

                                        The only other name I can think of is Sione Halalilo who impressed with his couple cameos for the Lions this year. (Also an under 20 member).

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                                          Peter UJ still with his arm in a sling. From his brother's instagram.

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                                          @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

                                          Peter UJ still with his arm in a sling. From his brother's instagram.

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                                          Yeah, he will be out for a large portion of the Hurricanes campaign I believe.

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