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  • StargazerS Offline
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    Canterbury hooker Shilo Klein has signed with San Diego.

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      #1816

      I am surprised Semple isn't involved with coaching a SR Aupiki team next year.

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      • BovidaeB Bovidae

        I am surprised Semple isn't involved with coaching a SR Aupiki team next year.

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        @Bovidae 4 games, vs full year employment.

        Much higher level athletes.

        Can't say many would choose women's super other than lifestyle reasons.

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        • StargazerS Stargazer

          Manawatū prop Sean Paranihi has signed with New Orleans.

          https://twitter.com/nolagoldrugby/status/1603547822145835010

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          @Stargazer said in Exodus:

          Manawatū prop Sean Paranihi has signed with New Orleans.

          https://twitter.com/nolagoldrugby/status/1603547822145835010

          Living in the bayou would be way more interesting than living in Palmy.

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          • HigginsH Offline
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            #1819

            These never ending departures will surely be having a big effect on club rugby here in NZ this coming season, particularly in the front row where reasonable props were hard enough to come by even before this mass exodus gathered steam.

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            • HigginsH Higgins

              These never ending departures will surely be having a big effect on club rugby here in NZ this coming season, particularly in the front row where reasonable props were hard enough to come by even before this mass exodus gathered steam.

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              @Higgins Yep, the departure of the better players is diminishing our Super depth and will make it difficult to find replacements when injury strikes, and the departure of all players is bad for club rugby. But if they get paid somewhere else for playing rugby and they get the opportunity to see other parts of the world, then it makes totally sense from a player's point of view.

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                You would hope that once the competition is well established that they have a limit on the number of foreign players match day squad.

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                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300768903/nz-rugby-offered-contract-exemption-to-all-blacks-star-beauden-barrett

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                  • TimT Tim

                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300768903/nz-rugby-offered-contract-exemption-to-all-blacks-star-beauden-barrett

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                    @Tim said in Exodus:

                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300768903/nz-rugby-offered-contract-exemption-to-all-blacks-star-beauden-barrett

                    I can not see why they would want to sign a almost 36 year old BB in 2025.

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                    • ChrisC Chris

                      @Tim said in Exodus:

                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300768903/nz-rugby-offered-contract-exemption-to-all-blacks-star-beauden-barrett

                      I can not see why they would want to sign a almost 36 year old BB in 2025.

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                      @Chris said in Exodus:

                      @Tim said in Exodus:

                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300768903/nz-rugby-offered-contract-exemption-to-all-blacks-star-beauden-barrett

                      I can not see why they would want to sign a almost 36 year old BB in 2025.

                      an extraordinarily stupid use of resources.

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                      • ChrisC Chris

                        @Tim said in Exodus:

                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300768903/nz-rugby-offered-contract-exemption-to-all-blacks-star-beauden-barrett

                        I can not see why they would want to sign a almost 36 year old BB in 2025.

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                        #1825

                        @Chris said in Exodus:

                        @Tim said in Exodus:

                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300768903/nz-rugby-offered-contract-exemption-to-all-blacks-star-beauden-barrett

                        I can not see why they would want to sign a almost 36 year old BB in 2025.

                        I guess Razor has indicated he wants him in his AB squad.

                        But to be serious. WTF!!!

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                        • NepiaN Nepia

                          @Chris said in Exodus:

                          @Tim said in Exodus:

                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300768903/nz-rugby-offered-contract-exemption-to-all-blacks-star-beauden-barrett

                          I can not see why they would want to sign a almost 36 year old BB in 2025.

                          I guess Razor has indicated he wants him in his AB squad.

                          But to be serious. WTF!!!

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                          wrote on last edited by
                          #1826

                          @Nepia said in Exodus:

                          @Chris said in Exodus:

                          @Tim said in Exodus:

                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300768903/nz-rugby-offered-contract-exemption-to-all-blacks-star-beauden-barrett

                          I can not see why they would want to sign a almost 36 year old BB in 2025.

                          I guess Razor has indicated he wants him in his AB squad.

                          But to be serious. WTF!!!

                          Well we don't know what he was offered, if any money, it could well of been should we make a contracxt where you go overseas and could be used in ABs??
                          FFS why is everything so negative? RA use players that are contracted overseas, they only get paid when playing for Wallabies!! I would guess it was simialr idea for just in case and the NZR board said no anyway.

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                          • Dan54D Dan54

                            @Nepia said in Exodus:

                            @Chris said in Exodus:

                            @Tim said in Exodus:

                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300768903/nz-rugby-offered-contract-exemption-to-all-blacks-star-beauden-barrett

                            I can not see why they would want to sign a almost 36 year old BB in 2025.

                            I guess Razor has indicated he wants him in his AB squad.

                            But to be serious. WTF!!!

                            Well we don't know what he was offered, if any money, it could well of been should we make a contracxt where you go overseas and could be used in ABs??
                            FFS why is everything so negative? RA use players that are contracted overseas, they only get paid when playing for Wallabies!! I would guess it was simialr idea for just in case and the NZR board said no anyway.

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                            #1827

                            @Dan54 said in Exodus:

                            @Nepia said in Exodus:

                            @Chris said in Exodus:

                            @Tim said in Exodus:

                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300768903/nz-rugby-offered-contract-exemption-to-all-blacks-star-beauden-barrett

                            I can not see why they would want to sign a almost 36 year old BB in 2025.

                            I guess Razor has indicated he wants him in his AB squad.

                            But to be serious. WTF!!!

                            Well we don't know what he was offered, if any money, it could well of been should we make a contracxt where you go overseas and could be used in ABs??
                            FFS why is everything so negative? RA use players that are contracted overseas, they only get paid when playing for Wallabies!! I would guess it was simialr idea for just in case and the NZR board said no anyway.

                            Yep that worked out well for them with another aging First Five.
                            36 year old First Five who is declining in his ability at 32 let alone in 4 more years.
                            Maybe money should be spent elsewhere and not to mention it opens up doors for all our AB's to play overseas that would hurt our domestic comps and make them 3rd Rate.

                            I wonder if TV monies will be as big if that happens I would say not.
                            Just a silly idea by NZR again with no real benefit to the game in NZ through the tiers.

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                            • ChrisC Chris

                              @Dan54 said in Exodus:

                              @Nepia said in Exodus:

                              @Chris said in Exodus:

                              @Tim said in Exodus:

                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300768903/nz-rugby-offered-contract-exemption-to-all-blacks-star-beauden-barrett

                              I can not see why they would want to sign a almost 36 year old BB in 2025.

                              I guess Razor has indicated he wants him in his AB squad.

                              But to be serious. WTF!!!

                              Well we don't know what he was offered, if any money, it could well of been should we make a contracxt where you go overseas and could be used in ABs??
                              FFS why is everything so negative? RA use players that are contracted overseas, they only get paid when playing for Wallabies!! I would guess it was simialr idea for just in case and the NZR board said no anyway.

                              Yep that worked out well for them with another aging First Five.
                              36 year old First Five who is declining in his ability at 32 let alone in 4 more years.
                              Maybe money should be spent elsewhere and not to mention it opens up doors for all our AB's to play overseas that would hurt our domestic comps and make them 3rd Rate.

                              I wonder if TV monies will be as big if that happens I would say not.
                              Just a silly idea by NZR again with no real benefit to the game in NZ through the tiers.

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                              taniwharugby
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                              #1828

                              @Chris you'd think they'd have learnt from Julian Savea and more recently Codie Taylor, the latter battling with form in 2022 and he's signed on through 2025....

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                              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                @Chris you'd think they'd have learnt from Julian Savea and more recently Codie Taylor, the latter battling with form in 2022 and he's signed on through 2025....

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                                @taniwharugby said in Exodus:

                                @Chris you'd think they'd have learnt from Julian Savea and more recently Codie Taylor, the latter battling with form in 2022 and he's signed on through 2025....

                                Yep exactly they dig a hole for themselves with this sort of thing.

                                For me if you go overseas then that is your career over seas you can not have it both ways.
                                Were is the incentive for players to stay with their SR teams and NPC teams we are already seeing it with all these players off to MRL if that grows bigger and you have Europe and Japan.
                                We will have our top 40 or 50 players not playing in NZ comps.

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                                • ChrisC Chris

                                  @taniwharugby said in Exodus:

                                  @Chris you'd think they'd have learnt from Julian Savea and more recently Codie Taylor, the latter battling with form in 2022 and he's signed on through 2025....

                                  Yep exactly they dig a hole for themselves with this sort of thing.

                                  For me if you go overseas then that is your career over seas you can not have it both ways.
                                  Were is the incentive for players to stay with their SR teams and NPC teams we are already seeing it with all these players off to MRL if that grows bigger and you have Europe and Japan.
                                  We will have our top 40 or 50 players not playing in NZ comps.

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                                  @Chris yeah sabbaticals are one thing for long term players, but surely they need to consider that most players come back worse than when they left.

                                  Do the Irish still get some kind of tax exemption once they retire? Would be good if we could get a way for our guys to spend thier last years playing here more often, this is where our next generation are missing out.

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                                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                    @Chris yeah sabbaticals are one thing for long term players, but surely they need to consider that most players come back worse than when they left.

                                    Do the Irish still get some kind of tax exemption once they retire? Would be good if we could get a way for our guys to spend thier last years playing here more often, this is where our next generation are missing out.

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                                    #1831

                                    @taniwharugby said in Exodus:

                                    @Chris yeah sabbaticals are one thing for long term players, but surely they need to consider that most players come back worse than when they left.

                                    Do the Irish still get some kind of tax exemption once they retire? Would be good if we could get a way for our guys to spend thier last years playing here more often, this is where our next generation are missing out.

                                    100%

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                                    • ChrisC Chris

                                      @Dan54 said in Exodus:

                                      @Nepia said in Exodus:

                                      @Chris said in Exodus:

                                      @Tim said in Exodus:

                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300768903/nz-rugby-offered-contract-exemption-to-all-blacks-star-beauden-barrett

                                      I can not see why they would want to sign a almost 36 year old BB in 2025.

                                      I guess Razor has indicated he wants him in his AB squad.

                                      But to be serious. WTF!!!

                                      Well we don't know what he was offered, if any money, it could well of been should we make a contracxt where you go overseas and could be used in ABs??
                                      FFS why is everything so negative? RA use players that are contracted overseas, they only get paid when playing for Wallabies!! I would guess it was simialr idea for just in case and the NZR board said no anyway.

                                      Yep that worked out well for them with another aging First Five.
                                      36 year old First Five who is declining in his ability at 32 let alone in 4 more years.
                                      Maybe money should be spent elsewhere and not to mention it opens up doors for all our AB's to play overseas that would hurt our domestic comps and make them 3rd Rate.

                                      I wonder if TV monies will be as big if that happens I would say not.
                                      Just a silly idea by NZR again with no real benefit to the game in NZ through the tiers.

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                                      Dan54
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #1832

                                      @Chris said in Exodus:

                                      @Dan54 said in Exodus:

                                      @Nepia said in Exodus:

                                      @Chris said in Exodus:

                                      @Tim said in Exodus:

                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300768903/nz-rugby-offered-contract-exemption-to-all-blacks-star-beauden-barrett

                                      I can not see why they would want to sign a almost 36 year old BB in 2025.

                                      I guess Razor has indicated he wants him in his AB squad.

                                      But to be serious. WTF!!!

                                      Well we don't know what he was offered, if any money, it could well of been should we make a contracxt where you go overseas and could be used in ABs??
                                      FFS why is everything so negative? RA use players that are contracted overseas, they only get paid when playing for Wallabies!! I would guess it was simialr idea for just in case and the NZR board said no anyway.

                                      Yep that worked out well for them with another aging First Five.
                                      36 year old First Five who is declining in his ability at 32 let alone in 4 more years.
                                      Maybe money should be spent elsewhere and not to mention it opens up doors for all our AB's to play overseas that would hurt our domestic comps and make them 3rd Rate.

                                      I wonder if TV monies will be as big if that happens I would say not.
                                      Just a silly idea by NZR again with no real benefit to the game in NZ through the tiers.

                                      For christ sake have you 2 read the report? It was suggested as a possibilty and was that any further discussion would take place if NZR board agreed!

                                      “All parties were aware that further discussion and decision on this remained subject to NZR board decision.

                                      NZR board didn't agree so it was never offered!! Geez bloody christ talk about take what you want that's anti out of a press report!!

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                                      • Dan54D Dan54

                                        @Chris said in Exodus:

                                        @Dan54 said in Exodus:

                                        @Nepia said in Exodus:

                                        @Chris said in Exodus:

                                        @Tim said in Exodus:

                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300768903/nz-rugby-offered-contract-exemption-to-all-blacks-star-beauden-barrett

                                        I can not see why they would want to sign a almost 36 year old BB in 2025.

                                        I guess Razor has indicated he wants him in his AB squad.

                                        But to be serious. WTF!!!

                                        Well we don't know what he was offered, if any money, it could well of been should we make a contracxt where you go overseas and could be used in ABs??
                                        FFS why is everything so negative? RA use players that are contracted overseas, they only get paid when playing for Wallabies!! I would guess it was simialr idea for just in case and the NZR board said no anyway.

                                        Yep that worked out well for them with another aging First Five.
                                        36 year old First Five who is declining in his ability at 32 let alone in 4 more years.
                                        Maybe money should be spent elsewhere and not to mention it opens up doors for all our AB's to play overseas that would hurt our domestic comps and make them 3rd Rate.

                                        I wonder if TV monies will be as big if that happens I would say not.
                                        Just a silly idea by NZR again with no real benefit to the game in NZ through the tiers.

                                        For christ sake have you 2 read the report? It was suggested as a possibilty and was that any further discussion would take place if NZR board agreed!

                                        “All parties were aware that further discussion and decision on this remained subject to NZR board decision.

                                        NZR board didn't agree so it was never offered!! Geez bloody christ talk about take what you want that's anti out of a press report!!

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                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #1833

                                        @Dan54 said in Exodus:

                                        @Chris said in Exodus:

                                        @Dan54 said in Exodus:

                                        @Nepia said in Exodus:

                                        @Chris said in Exodus:

                                        @Tim said in Exodus:

                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300768903/nz-rugby-offered-contract-exemption-to-all-blacks-star-beauden-barrett

                                        I can not see why they would want to sign a almost 36 year old BB in 2025.

                                        I guess Razor has indicated he wants him in his AB squad.

                                        But to be serious. WTF!!!

                                        Well we don't know what he was offered, if any money, it could well of been should we make a contracxt where you go overseas and could be used in ABs??
                                        FFS why is everything so negative? RA use players that are contracted overseas, they only get paid when playing for Wallabies!! I would guess it was simialr idea for just in case and the NZR board said no anyway.

                                        Yep that worked out well for them with another aging First Five.
                                        36 year old First Five who is declining in his ability at 32 let alone in 4 more years.
                                        Maybe money should be spent elsewhere and not to mention it opens up doors for all our AB's to play overseas that would hurt our domestic comps and make them 3rd Rate.

                                        I wonder if TV monies will be as big if that happens I would say not.
                                        Just a silly idea by NZR again with no real benefit to the game in NZ through the tiers.

                                        For christ sake have you 2 read the report? It was suggested as a possibilty and was that any further discussion would take place if NZR board agreed!

                                        “All parties were aware that further discussion and decision on this remained subject to NZR board decision.

                                        NZR board didn't agree so it was never offered!! Geez bloody christ talk about take what you want that's anti out of a press report!!

                                        hahaha calm down mate its the idea that is stupid.
                                        Stupid NZR again.

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                                        • Dan54D Dan54

                                          @Chris said in Exodus:

                                          @Dan54 said in Exodus:

                                          @Nepia said in Exodus:

                                          @Chris said in Exodus:

                                          @Tim said in Exodus:

                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300768903/nz-rugby-offered-contract-exemption-to-all-blacks-star-beauden-barrett

                                          I can not see why they would want to sign a almost 36 year old BB in 2025.

                                          I guess Razor has indicated he wants him in his AB squad.

                                          But to be serious. WTF!!!

                                          Well we don't know what he was offered, if any money, it could well of been should we make a contracxt where you go overseas and could be used in ABs??
                                          FFS why is everything so negative? RA use players that are contracted overseas, they only get paid when playing for Wallabies!! I would guess it was simialr idea for just in case and the NZR board said no anyway.

                                          Yep that worked out well for them with another aging First Five.
                                          36 year old First Five who is declining in his ability at 32 let alone in 4 more years.
                                          Maybe money should be spent elsewhere and not to mention it opens up doors for all our AB's to play overseas that would hurt our domestic comps and make them 3rd Rate.

                                          I wonder if TV monies will be as big if that happens I would say not.
                                          Just a silly idea by NZR again with no real benefit to the game in NZ through the tiers.

                                          For christ sake have you 2 read the report? It was suggested as a possibilty and was that any further discussion would take place if NZR board agreed!

                                          “All parties were aware that further discussion and decision on this remained subject to NZR board decision.

                                          NZR board didn't agree so it was never offered!! Geez bloody christ talk about take what you want that's anti out of a press report!!

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                                          @Dan54 said in Exodus:

                                          @Chris said in Exodus:

                                          @Dan54 said in Exodus:

                                          @Nepia said in Exodus:

                                          @Chris said in Exodus:

                                          @Tim said in Exodus:

                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300768903/nz-rugby-offered-contract-exemption-to-all-blacks-star-beauden-barrett

                                          I can not see why they would want to sign a almost 36 year old BB in 2025.

                                          I guess Razor has indicated he wants him in his AB squad.

                                          But to be serious. WTF!!!

                                          Well we don't know what he was offered, if any money, it could well of been should we make a contracxt where you go overseas and could be used in ABs??
                                          FFS why is everything so negative? RA use players that are contracted overseas, they only get paid when playing for Wallabies!! I would guess it was simialr idea for just in case and the NZR board said no anyway.

                                          Yep that worked out well for them with another aging First Five.
                                          36 year old First Five who is declining in his ability at 32 let alone in 4 more years.
                                          Maybe money should be spent elsewhere and not to mention it opens up doors for all our AB's to play overseas that would hurt our domestic comps and make them 3rd Rate.

                                          I wonder if TV monies will be as big if that happens I would say not.
                                          Just a silly idea by NZR again with no real benefit to the game in NZ through the tiers.

                                          For christ sake have you 2 read the report? It was suggested as a possibilty and was that any further discussion would take place if NZR board agreed!

                                          “All parties were aware that further discussion and decision on this remained subject to NZR board decision.

                                          NZR board didn't agree so it was never offered!! Geez bloody christ talk about take what you want that's anti out of a press report!!

                                          Surely you have been around here long enough to know that reading reports is not needed to form an opinion or substantiate a rant?

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