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Black Clash

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  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

    I think with Harry what is shows is how different ODI cricket was in the 90s vs now.

    In the 99 CWC 300 was only scored 3 times in the whole tournament.

    I read an article that said in 1999 the average strike rate of batsmen in ODIs was 73.47 and in 2019 the average strike rate was 92.18.

    Harry these days wouldn't be nearly as valuable as he was in the 90s. Different era.

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    @kiwimurph said in Black Clash:

    I think with Harry what is shows is how different ODI cricket was in the 90s vs now.

    In the 99 CWC 300 was only scored 3 times in the whole tournament.

    I read an article that said in 1999 the average strike rate of batsmen in ODIs was 73.47 and in 2019 the average strike rate was 92.18.

    Harry these days wouldn't be nearly as valuable as he was in the 90s. Different era.

    Harry as a bowler would have been even more effective in T20 IMO. By the mid-point of his career his bowling revolved more around changes of pace and variation than bowling cutters - which is exactly what T20 bowling at his pace is all about. He also seemed to massively benefit from the batsman going after him rather than milking him.

    As a batsman though it is tough to see that he would have been even a middle order player. He had a bit of that Ross Taylor thing where his hands moved five times faster than his feet for the first 25 balls of his innings and so was often bogged down early even though he was canny at finding the gaps once he got things going. The lack of a real top gear would make it tough for him to bat any higher than 8.

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      Back in 2023:

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        Teams thus far:

        Team Rugby:
        Graham Henry - coach
        Scott Robertson - manager
        Kieran Read
        Will Jordan
        Jordie Barrett
        Israel Dagg
        Richie McCaw

        Team Cricket:
        Chris Martin
        Daniel Vettori
        Grant Elliott
        Adam Parore
        Anton Devcich
        Jacob Oram
        Kyle Mills
        This year's wild card: Nick Cummins the Honey Badger!!

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        • StargazerS Stargazer

          Teams thus far:

          Team Rugby:
          Graham Henry - coach
          Scott Robertson - manager
          Kieran Read
          Will Jordan
          Jordie Barrett
          Israel Dagg
          Richie McCaw

          Team Cricket:
          Chris Martin
          Daniel Vettori
          Grant Elliott
          Adam Parore
          Anton Devcich
          Jacob Oram
          Kyle Mills
          This year's wild card: Nick Cummins the Honey Badger!!

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          #80

          @Stargazer said in Black Clash:

          Teams thus far:

          Team Rugby:
          Graham Henry - coach
          Scott Robertson - manager
          Kieran Read
          Will Jordan
          Jordie Barrett
          Israel Dagg
          Richie McCaw

          Team Cricket:
          Chris Martin
          Daniel Vettori
          Grant Elliott
          Adam Parore
          Anton Devcich
          Jacob Oram
          Kyle Mills
          This year's wild card: Nick Cummins the Honey Badger!!

          I assume Ruben Love will be in Team Rugby considering he was in the squad last year. Awesome to see the Honey Badger there, hopefully they get him mic'd up.

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            Australian viewers

            https://twitter.com/StanSportRugby/status/1615514340026712067

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              Despite myself I’m sure I’ll have a beer or two and watch this tonight all the while whinging that it must be fixed and the the cricket guys aren’t trying hard enough.

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                Final team lists:

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                Also:

                The Ford Double Play returns to the T20 Black Clash!

                In this over, each run scored will earn double runs for their team 🏏

                2 runs = 4 Ford Double Play runs

                4 runs = 8 Ford Double play runs

                6 runs = 12 Ford Double Play runs etc.


                Unfortunately, the Alternative Commentary Collective are the commentary team again.

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                • StargazerS Stargazer

                  Final team lists:

                  c83550a3-67b1-4c19-af4d-aae8e1d65f8b-image.png

                  ab703cb4-f3f5-4652-a7a2-ab5d5bbb2384-image.png

                  Also:

                  The Ford Double Play returns to the T20 Black Clash!

                  In this over, each run scored will earn double runs for their team 🏏

                  2 runs = 4 Ford Double Play runs

                  4 runs = 8 Ford Double play runs

                  6 runs = 12 Ford Double Play runs etc.


                  Unfortunately, the Alternative Commentary Collective are the commentary team again.

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                  @Stargazer said in Black Clash:

                  Unfortunately, the Alternative Commentary Collective are the commentary team again.

                  I won't bother watching coz of that. But, I guess it caters for the audience they want.

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                  • A ARHS

                    @Stargazer said in Black Clash:

                    Unfortunately, the Alternative Commentary Collective are the commentary team again.

                    I won't bother watching coz of that. But, I guess it caters for the audience they want.

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                    @ARHS Yeah, I'll watch, but the mute button will be used a lot, tonight, until I get sick of it.

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                      The ACC are pretty shite which is a shame cos Hauraki drive is rather amusing.

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                        Who heck Andrew McDonald?

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                        • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                          Who heck Andrew McDonald?

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                          @Crazy-Horse said in Black Clash:

                          Who heck Andrew McDonald?

                          Australian Mens Cricket Coach.

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                            @Crazy-Horse said in Black Clash:

                            Who heck Andrew McDonald?

                            Australian Mens Cricket Coach.

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                            @Chris said in Black Clash:

                            @Crazy-Horse said in Black Clash:

                            Who heck Andrew McDonald?

                            Australian Mens Cricket Coach.

                            Can't believe I didn't know that!

                            Edit: I see he even played a test in 2009 and went on an Ashes Tour. I have no memory of him.

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                              @Chris said in Black Clash:

                              @Crazy-Horse said in Black Clash:

                              Who heck Andrew McDonald?

                              Australian Mens Cricket Coach.

                              Can't believe I didn't know that!

                              Edit: I see he even played a test in 2009 and went on an Ashes Tour. I have no memory of him.

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                              @Crazy-Horse said in Black Clash:

                              @Chris said in Black Clash:

                              @Crazy-Horse said in Black Clash:

                              Who heck Andrew McDonald?

                              Australian Mens Cricket Coach.

                              Can't believe I didn't know that!

                              Edit: I see he even played a test in 2009 and went on an Ashes Tour. I have no memory of him.

                              Tall Ranga, gun fielder.

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                                I think Chris Martin should open the batting

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                                  The (only?) funny thing about the Alternative Commentary Collective and their vocal fans is that they usually turn each time they're on TVNZ into 'tee hee, boring old people hate us and complain about us heaps, okay Boomers!! LOLz'

                                  Hate is too strong. Listening to them is just Meh and constant repetition after the first five minutes or so...

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                                  • MN5M MN5

                                    I think Chris Martin should open the batting

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                                    @MN5 said in Black Clash:

                                    I think Chris Martin should open the batting

                                    I've been wondering if they'll do that as a gimmick (well, one of many 🙂 )

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                                      The (only?) funny thing about the Alternative Commentary Collective and their vocal fans is that they usually turn each time they're on TVNZ into 'tee hee, boring old people hate us and complain about us heaps, okay Boomers!! LOLz'

                                      Hate is too strong. Listening to them is just Meh and constant repetition after the first five minutes or so...

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                                      MN5
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                                      #94

                                      @Donsteppa said in Black Clash:

                                      The (only?) funny thing about the Alternative Commentary Collective and their vocal fans is that they usually turn each time they're on TVNZ into 'tee hee, boring old people hate us and complain about us heaps, okay Boomers!! LOLz'

                                      Hate is too strong. Listening to them is just Meh and constant repetition after the first five minutes or so...

                                      Or when they give someone a nickname and make sure they repeat it 50 times in case we missed it.

                                      Hauraki is great though so it’s a shame commentary doesn’t work for them as a medium

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                                        Jason Hoyt is opening the commentary with the extremely unfunny pair of Ben Hurley and Dai Henwood.

                                        She could be a long night.

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