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Black Clash

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  • MajorPomM MajorPom

    @mn5 said in Black Clash:

    @godder said in Black Clash:

    @mn5 said in Black Clash:

    @kiwimurph said in Black Clash:

    I think with Harry what is shows is how different ODI cricket was in the 90s vs now.

    In the 99 CWC 300 was only scored 3 times in the whole tournament.

    I read an article that said in 1999 the average strike rate of batsmen in ODIs was 73.47 and in 2019 the average strike rate was 92.18.

    Harry these days wouldn't be nearly as valuable as he was in the 90s. Different era.

    Definitely, I was surprised he didn’t have more big moments but I might stop commenting now in case I get ripped apart again.

    He had a lot of not outs because his job was often to anchor the latter part of the innings while the other end did the hitting.

    Fuck Harry. Worst NZ cricketer ever

    Harry fan here as well. Best in the field, good at slowing the economy rate, anchor of a batsman saving us from some low scores on multiple times.

    But mainly because of two thing.

    1. The game where he hit two 6's and the tv camera's actually managed to follow the ball. For the young 'uns on the board, when players used to hit a 6 you used to stare at nothing as the definition / lighting was so bad you could never see the ball until it came down to the crowd and you saw people jumping for it.
    2. Side on run out in the opening match of the 92 world cup.
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    @majorrage said in Black Clash:

    @mn5 said in Black Clash:

    @godder said in Black Clash:

    @mn5 said in Black Clash:

    @kiwimurph said in Black Clash:

    I think with Harry what is shows is how different ODI cricket was in the 90s vs now.

    In the 99 CWC 300 was only scored 3 times in the whole tournament.

    I read an article that said in 1999 the average strike rate of batsmen in ODIs was 73.47 and in 2019 the average strike rate was 92.18.

    Harry these days wouldn't be nearly as valuable as he was in the 90s. Different era.

    Definitely, I was surprised he didn’t have more big moments but I might stop commenting now in case I get ripped apart again.

    He had a lot of not outs because his job was often to anchor the latter part of the innings while the other end did the hitting.

    Fuck Harry. Worst NZ cricketer ever

    Harry fan here as well. Best in the field, good at slowing the economy rate, anchor of a batsman saving us from some low scores on multiple times.

    But mainly because of two thing.

    1. The game where he hit two 6's and the tv camera's actually managed to follow the ball. For the young 'uns on the board, when players used to hit a 6 you used to stare at nothing as the definition / lighting was so bad you could never see the ball until it came down to the crowd and you saw people jumping for it.
    2. Side on run out in the opening match of the 92 world cup.

    Yeah he was bloody good in the the field wasn’t he ?

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      Kieran Read paid the price for facing pace...

      Check out the last pic

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      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

        I think with Harry what is shows is how different ODI cricket was in the 90s vs now.

        In the 99 CWC 300 was only scored 3 times in the whole tournament.

        I read an article that said in 1999 the average strike rate of batsmen in ODIs was 73.47 and in 2019 the average strike rate was 92.18.

        Harry these days wouldn't be nearly as valuable as he was in the 90s. Different era.

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        #77

        @kiwimurph said in Black Clash:

        I think with Harry what is shows is how different ODI cricket was in the 90s vs now.

        In the 99 CWC 300 was only scored 3 times in the whole tournament.

        I read an article that said in 1999 the average strike rate of batsmen in ODIs was 73.47 and in 2019 the average strike rate was 92.18.

        Harry these days wouldn't be nearly as valuable as he was in the 90s. Different era.

        Harry as a bowler would have been even more effective in T20 IMO. By the mid-point of his career his bowling revolved more around changes of pace and variation than bowling cutters - which is exactly what T20 bowling at his pace is all about. He also seemed to massively benefit from the batsman going after him rather than milking him.

        As a batsman though it is tough to see that he would have been even a middle order player. He had a bit of that Ross Taylor thing where his hands moved five times faster than his feet for the first 25 balls of his innings and so was often bogged down early even though he was canny at finding the gaps once he got things going. The lack of a real top gear would make it tough for him to bat any higher than 8.

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          Stargazer
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          Back in 2023:

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            Stargazer
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            Teams thus far:

            Team Rugby:
            Graham Henry - coach
            Scott Robertson - manager
            Kieran Read
            Will Jordan
            Jordie Barrett
            Israel Dagg
            Richie McCaw

            Team Cricket:
            Chris Martin
            Daniel Vettori
            Grant Elliott
            Adam Parore
            Anton Devcich
            Jacob Oram
            Kyle Mills
            This year's wild card: Nick Cummins the Honey Badger!!

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            • StargazerS Stargazer

              Teams thus far:

              Team Rugby:
              Graham Henry - coach
              Scott Robertson - manager
              Kieran Read
              Will Jordan
              Jordie Barrett
              Israel Dagg
              Richie McCaw

              Team Cricket:
              Chris Martin
              Daniel Vettori
              Grant Elliott
              Adam Parore
              Anton Devcich
              Jacob Oram
              Kyle Mills
              This year's wild card: Nick Cummins the Honey Badger!!

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              Canes4life
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              #80

              @Stargazer said in Black Clash:

              Teams thus far:

              Team Rugby:
              Graham Henry - coach
              Scott Robertson - manager
              Kieran Read
              Will Jordan
              Jordie Barrett
              Israel Dagg
              Richie McCaw

              Team Cricket:
              Chris Martin
              Daniel Vettori
              Grant Elliott
              Adam Parore
              Anton Devcich
              Jacob Oram
              Kyle Mills
              This year's wild card: Nick Cummins the Honey Badger!!

              I assume Ruben Love will be in Team Rugby considering he was in the squad last year. Awesome to see the Honey Badger there, hopefully they get him mic'd up.

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                Australian viewers

                https://twitter.com/StanSportRugby/status/1615514340026712067

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                  Despite myself I’m sure I’ll have a beer or two and watch this tonight all the while whinging that it must be fixed and the the cricket guys aren’t trying hard enough.

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                    Stargazer
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                    #83

                    Final team lists:

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                    ab703cb4-f3f5-4652-a7a2-ab5d5bbb2384-image.png

                    Also:

                    The Ford Double Play returns to the T20 Black Clash!

                    In this over, each run scored will earn double runs for their team 🏏

                    2 runs = 4 Ford Double Play runs

                    4 runs = 8 Ford Double play runs

                    6 runs = 12 Ford Double Play runs etc.


                    Unfortunately, the Alternative Commentary Collective are the commentary team again.

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                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                      Final team lists:

                      c83550a3-67b1-4c19-af4d-aae8e1d65f8b-image.png

                      ab703cb4-f3f5-4652-a7a2-ab5d5bbb2384-image.png

                      Also:

                      The Ford Double Play returns to the T20 Black Clash!

                      In this over, each run scored will earn double runs for their team 🏏

                      2 runs = 4 Ford Double Play runs

                      4 runs = 8 Ford Double play runs

                      6 runs = 12 Ford Double Play runs etc.


                      Unfortunately, the Alternative Commentary Collective are the commentary team again.

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                      ARHS
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                      @Stargazer said in Black Clash:

                      Unfortunately, the Alternative Commentary Collective are the commentary team again.

                      I won't bother watching coz of that. But, I guess it caters for the audience they want.

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                      • A ARHS

                        @Stargazer said in Black Clash:

                        Unfortunately, the Alternative Commentary Collective are the commentary team again.

                        I won't bother watching coz of that. But, I guess it caters for the audience they want.

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                        @ARHS Yeah, I'll watch, but the mute button will be used a lot, tonight, until I get sick of it.

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                          MN5
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                          #86

                          The ACC are pretty shite which is a shame cos Hauraki drive is rather amusing.

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                            Crazy Horse
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                            Who heck Andrew McDonald?

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                            • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                              Who heck Andrew McDonald?

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                              Chris
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                              @Crazy-Horse said in Black Clash:

                              Who heck Andrew McDonald?

                              Australian Mens Cricket Coach.

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                              • ChrisC Chris

                                @Crazy-Horse said in Black Clash:

                                Who heck Andrew McDonald?

                                Australian Mens Cricket Coach.

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                                @Chris said in Black Clash:

                                @Crazy-Horse said in Black Clash:

                                Who heck Andrew McDonald?

                                Australian Mens Cricket Coach.

                                Can't believe I didn't know that!

                                Edit: I see he even played a test in 2009 and went on an Ashes Tour. I have no memory of him.

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                                • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                                  @Chris said in Black Clash:

                                  @Crazy-Horse said in Black Clash:

                                  Who heck Andrew McDonald?

                                  Australian Mens Cricket Coach.

                                  Can't believe I didn't know that!

                                  Edit: I see he even played a test in 2009 and went on an Ashes Tour. I have no memory of him.

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                                  @Crazy-Horse said in Black Clash:

                                  @Chris said in Black Clash:

                                  @Crazy-Horse said in Black Clash:

                                  Who heck Andrew McDonald?

                                  Australian Mens Cricket Coach.

                                  Can't believe I didn't know that!

                                  Edit: I see he even played a test in 2009 and went on an Ashes Tour. I have no memory of him.

                                  Tall Ranga, gun fielder.

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                                    I think Chris Martin should open the batting

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                                      The (only?) funny thing about the Alternative Commentary Collective and their vocal fans is that they usually turn each time they're on TVNZ into 'tee hee, boring old people hate us and complain about us heaps, okay Boomers!! LOLz'

                                      Hate is too strong. Listening to them is just Meh and constant repetition after the first five minutes or so...

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                                      • MN5M MN5

                                        I think Chris Martin should open the batting

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                                        Donsteppa
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                                        @MN5 said in Black Clash:

                                        I think Chris Martin should open the batting

                                        I've been wondering if they'll do that as a gimmick (well, one of many 🙂 )

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                                          The (only?) funny thing about the Alternative Commentary Collective and their vocal fans is that they usually turn each time they're on TVNZ into 'tee hee, boring old people hate us and complain about us heaps, okay Boomers!! LOLz'

                                          Hate is too strong. Listening to them is just Meh and constant repetition after the first five minutes or so...

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                                          MN5
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                                          #94

                                          @Donsteppa said in Black Clash:

                                          The (only?) funny thing about the Alternative Commentary Collective and their vocal fans is that they usually turn each time they're on TVNZ into 'tee hee, boring old people hate us and complain about us heaps, okay Boomers!! LOLz'

                                          Hate is too strong. Listening to them is just Meh and constant repetition after the first five minutes or so...

                                          Or when they give someone a nickname and make sure they repeat it 50 times in case we missed it.

                                          Hauraki is great though so it’s a shame commentary doesn’t work for them as a medium

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