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dogmeat

@chris-b Also the 3rd most wickets for NZ in ODI's at the 9th lowest average. Although averages were much lower in pre T20 days. Satnav the only current NZ bowler averaging below 5.

Fuck Harry was shit ...

MN5

@rapido said in Black Clash:

MN5 just doesn't understand roles.

"I never said he was terrible, I said he had modest returns."

Modest returns at stats relatively irrelevant to his role, like wondering what all the fuss was with Shane Bond when he has zero run outs from backward point. Or zero rescued run chases.

Anyway. Also doesn't seem to understand difference between fan favourites from greats.

I thought the 90s was his thing?

Fucken hell, you’d think I’d compared him to Justin Vaughan or someone judging from the grief I’m getting.

It certainly proves he’s popular, I hope he does get a run in the Black Clash now !

KiwiMurph

I think with Harry what is shows is how different ODI cricket was in the 90s vs now.

In the 99 CWC 300 was only scored 3 times in the whole tournament.

I read an article that said in 1999 the average strike rate of batsmen in ODIs was 73.47 and in 2019 the average strike rate was 92.18.

Harry these days wouldn't be nearly as valuable as he was in the 90s. Different era.

MN5

@kiwimurph said in Black Clash:

I think with Harry what is shows is how different ODI cricket was in the 90s vs now.

In the 99 CWC 300 was only scored 3 times in the whole tournament.

I read an article that said in 1999 the average strike rate of batsmen in ODIs was 73.47 and in 2019 the average strike rate was 92.18.

Harry these days wouldn't be nearly as valuable as he was in the 90s. Different era.

Definitely, I was surprised he didn’t have more big moments but I might stop commenting now in case I get ripped apart again.

Siam

@mn5 mn5 looks to his left, points and exclaims " Hey isn't that George Bridge walking with Ian Foster?"

Pheeww, (wipes brow)

MN5

@siam said in Black Clash:

@mn5 mn5 looks to his left, points and exclaims " Hey isn't that George Bridge walking with Ian Foster?"

Pheeww, (wipes brow)

On their way to get tips from Caleb Ralph

Godder

@mn5 said in Black Clash:

@kiwimurph said in Black Clash:

I think with Harry what is shows is how different ODI cricket was in the 90s vs now.

In the 99 CWC 300 was only scored 3 times in the whole tournament.

I read an article that said in 1999 the average strike rate of batsmen in ODIs was 73.47 and in 2019 the average strike rate was 92.18.

Harry these days wouldn't be nearly as valuable as he was in the 90s. Different era.

Definitely, I was surprised he didn’t have more big moments but I might stop commenting now in case I get ripped apart again.

He had a lot of not outs because his job was often to anchor the latter part of the innings while the other end did the hitting.

MN5

@godder said in Black Clash:

@mn5 said in Black Clash:

@kiwimurph said in Black Clash:

I think with Harry what is shows is how different ODI cricket was in the 90s vs now.

In the 99 CWC 300 was only scored 3 times in the whole tournament.

I read an article that said in 1999 the average strike rate of batsmen in ODIs was 73.47 and in 2019 the average strike rate was 92.18.

Harry these days wouldn't be nearly as valuable as he was in the 90s. Different era.

Definitely, I was surprised he didn’t have more big moments but I might stop commenting now in case I get ripped apart again.

He had a lot of not outs because his job was often to anchor the latter part of the innings while the other end did the hitting.

Fuck Harry. Worst NZ cricketer ever

MajorPom

@mn5 said in Black Clash:

@godder said in Black Clash:

@mn5 said in Black Clash:

@kiwimurph said in Black Clash:

I think with Harry what is shows is how different ODI cricket was in the 90s vs now.

In the 99 CWC 300 was only scored 3 times in the whole tournament.

I read an article that said in 1999 the average strike rate of batsmen in ODIs was 73.47 and in 2019 the average strike rate was 92.18.

Harry these days wouldn't be nearly as valuable as he was in the 90s. Different era.

Definitely, I was surprised he didn’t have more big moments but I might stop commenting now in case I get ripped apart again.

He had a lot of not outs because his job was often to anchor the latter part of the innings while the other end did the hitting.

Fuck Harry. Worst NZ cricketer ever

Harry fan here as well. Best in the field, good at slowing the economy rate, anchor of a batsman saving us from some low scores on multiple times.

But mainly because of two thing.

The game where he hit two 6's and the tv camera's actually managed to follow the ball. For the young 'uns on the board, when players used to hit a 6 you used to stare at nothing as the definition / lighting was so bad you could never see the ball until it came down to the crowd and you saw people jumping for it.
Side on run out in the opening match of the 92 world cup.

MN5

@majorrage said in Black Clash:

@mn5 said in Black Clash:

@godder said in Black Clash:

@mn5 said in Black Clash:

@kiwimurph said in Black Clash:

I think with Harry what is shows is how different ODI cricket was in the 90s vs now.

In the 99 CWC 300 was only scored 3 times in the whole tournament.

I read an article that said in 1999 the average strike rate of batsmen in ODIs was 73.47 and in 2019 the average strike rate was 92.18.

Harry these days wouldn't be nearly as valuable as he was in the 90s. Different era.

Definitely, I was surprised he didn’t have more big moments but I might stop commenting now in case I get ripped apart again.

He had a lot of not outs because his job was often to anchor the latter part of the innings while the other end did the hitting.

Fuck Harry. Worst NZ cricketer ever

Harry fan here as well. Best in the field, good at slowing the economy rate, anchor of a batsman saving us from some low scores on multiple times.

But mainly because of two thing.

The game where he hit two 6's and the tv camera's actually managed to follow the ball. For the young 'uns on the board, when players used to hit a 6 you used to stare at nothing as the definition / lighting was so bad you could never see the ball until it came down to the crowd and you saw people jumping for it.

Side on run out in the opening match of the 92 world cup.

Yeah he was bloody good in the the field wasn’t he ?

Davesofthunder

Kieran Read paid the price for facing pace...

Check out the last pic

rotated

@kiwimurph said in Black Clash:

I think with Harry what is shows is how different ODI cricket was in the 90s vs now.

In the 99 CWC 300 was only scored 3 times in the whole tournament.

I read an article that said in 1999 the average strike rate of batsmen in ODIs was 73.47 and in 2019 the average strike rate was 92.18.

Harry these days wouldn't be nearly as valuable as he was in the 90s. Different era.

Harry as a bowler would have been even more effective in T20 IMO. By the mid-point of his career his bowling revolved more around changes of pace and variation than bowling cutters - which is exactly what T20 bowling at his pace is all about. He also seemed to massively benefit from the batsman going after him rather than milking him.

As a batsman though it is tough to see that he would have been even a middle order player. He had a bit of that Ross Taylor thing where his hands moved five times faster than his feet for the first 25 balls of his innings and so was often bogged down early even though he was canny at finding the gaps once he got things going. The lack of a real top gear would make it tough for him to bat any higher than 8.

Stargazer

Back in 2023:

Stargazer

Teams thus far:

Team Rugby:
Graham Henry - coach
Scott Robertson - manager
Kieran Read
Will Jordan
Jordie Barrett
Israel Dagg
Richie McCaw

Team Cricket:
Chris Martin
Daniel Vettori
Grant Elliott
Adam Parore
Anton Devcich
Jacob Oram
Kyle Mills
This year's wild card: Nick Cummins the Honey Badger!!

Canes4life

@Stargazer said in Black Clash:

Teams thus far:

Team Rugby:
Graham Henry - coach
Scott Robertson - manager
Kieran Read
Will Jordan
Jordie Barrett
Israel Dagg
Richie McCaw

Team Cricket:
Chris Martin
Daniel Vettori
Grant Elliott
Adam Parore
Anton Devcich
Jacob Oram
Kyle Mills
This year's wild card: Nick Cummins the Honey Badger!!

I assume Ruben Love will be in Team Rugby considering he was in the squad last year. Awesome to see the Honey Badger there, hopefully they get him mic'd up.

NTA

Australian viewers

https://twitter.com/StanSportRugby/status/1615514340026712067

MN5

Despite myself I’m sure I’ll have a beer or two and watch this tonight all the while whinging that it must be fixed and the the cricket guys aren’t trying hard enough.

Stargazer

Final team lists:

Also:

The Ford Double Play returns to the T20 Black Clash!

In this over, each run scored will earn double runs for their team

2 runs = 4 Ford Double Play runs

4 runs = 8 Ford Double play runs

6 runs = 12 Ford Double Play runs etc.

Unfortunately, the Alternative Commentary Collective are the commentary team again.

ARHS

@Stargazer said in Black Clash:

Unfortunately, the Alternative Commentary Collective are the commentary team again.

I won't bother watching coz of that. But, I guess it caters for the audience they want.

Stargazer

@ARHS Yeah, I'll watch, but the mute button will be used a lot, tonight, until I get sick of it.

The Silver Fern

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