Black Clash
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@chris-b said in Black Clash:
@mn5 said in Black Clash:
Harry sure was a hero for someone who gave such modest returns. One hundy and one Michelle in 250 ODIs !!!!
http://www.howstat.com/cricket/statistics/batting/BattingBestAggregateForPosition_ODI.asp
Does that display No. 7?
Harry says fuck you, regardless!
Well yeah cos he played so many innings there.
He’s actually bloody good on the radio too I’ll give him that……but you know let’s be realistic about his place in Black Caps history and all of that
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MN5 just doesn't understand roles.
"I never said he was terrible, I said he had modest returns."
Modest returns at stats relatively irrelevant to his role, like wondering what all the fuss was with Shane Bond when he has zero run outs from backward point. Or zero rescued run chases.
Anyway. Also doesn't seem to understand difference between fan favourites from greats.
I thought the 90s was his thing?
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@nzbloke said in Black Clash:
@crucial said in Black Clash:
This would be entertaining (Tom Walsh smashing it), Jordie bowling bouncers etc but these commentary idiots are just painfully unfunny.
Grant Elliot has come in to bat and they managed to say “hairy javelin” 3 times in ten seconds. Once might have been humorous……Top hitting from Tom Walsh, for a big fella he's pretty good in the field too - yeah, those commentators are trying too hard to be funny, so come across as pillocks.
This event is a really fun watch every year - we have all played at least some backyard cricket & a lot of the rugby players have played plenty of youth cricket, so they're always going to perform decently at least against the cricketers.
Yeah I’m not convinced. I still struggle with the fact an ex AB captain managed to hit Bondy for six, it was only 20 or so years ago he had Ponting, Gilly, Hayden and whoever else jumping and dodging and getting out during a fantastic six wicket spell
@mn5 said in Black Clash:
@nzbloke said in Black Clash:
@crucial said in Black Clash:
This would be entertaining (Tom Walsh smashing it), Jordie bowling bouncers etc but these commentary idiots are just painfully unfunny.
Grant Elliot has come in to bat and they managed to say “hairy javelin” 3 times in ten seconds. Once might have been humorous……Top hitting from Tom Walsh, for a big fella he's pretty good in the field too - yeah, those commentators are trying too hard to be funny, so come across as pillocks.
This event is a really fun watch every year - we have all played at least some backyard cricket & a lot of the rugby players have played plenty of youth cricket, so they're always going to perform decently at least against the cricketers.
Yeah I’m not convinced. I still struggle with the fact an ex AB captain managed to hit Bondy for six, it was only 20 or so years ago he had Ponting, Gilly, Hayden and whoever else jumping and dodging and getting out during a fantastic six wicket spell
No doubt those cricketers are well past their best, unfortunately when we all get a bit older your reaction time isn't as good, not as quick around field, but that doesn't take away the huge amount of experience & cunning they have, Vettori is a good example of that - was really impressed with Bonds pace in his first few overs, then he looked like he hurt his back, that's when Read smashed him into the stands... both openers struggled a bit at the start against some very good pace & accuracy from Bond & Mills, but real credit to Read & Jordon putting on 100 partnership, showing composure & playing plenty of good cricket shots, setting up a great platform for the win.
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If they wanted to ensure it was close at the end of the game they could always bring in super sub Tuffey out of the sheds for a 14 ball doubly wubly over.
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@mn5 said in Black Clash:
Harry sure was a hero for someone who gave such modest returns. One hundy and one Michelle in 250 ODIs !!!!
http://www.howstat.com/cricket/statistics/batting/BattingBestAggregateForPosition_ODI.asp
Does that display No. 7?
Harry says fuck you, regardless!
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MN5 just doesn't understand roles.
"I never said he was terrible, I said he had modest returns."
Modest returns at stats relatively irrelevant to his role, like wondering what all the fuss was with Shane Bond when he has zero run outs from backward point. Or zero rescued run chases.
Anyway. Also doesn't seem to understand difference between fan favourites from greats.
I thought the 90s was his thing?
@rapido said in Black Clash:
MN5 just doesn't understand roles.
"I never said he was terrible, I said he had modest returns."
Modest returns at stats relatively irrelevant to his role, like wondering what all the fuss was with Shane Bond when he has zero run outs from backward point. Or zero rescued run chases.
Anyway. Also doesn't seem to understand difference between fan favourites from greats.
I thought the 90s was his thing?
Fucken hell, you’d think I’d compared him to Justin Vaughan or someone judging from the grief I’m getting.
It certainly proves he’s popular, I hope he does get a run in the Black Clash now !
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I think with Harry what is shows is how different ODI cricket was in the 90s vs now.
In the 99 CWC 300 was only scored 3 times in the whole tournament.
I read an article that said in 1999 the average strike rate of batsmen in ODIs was 73.47 and in 2019 the average strike rate was 92.18.
Harry these days wouldn't be nearly as valuable as he was in the 90s. Different era.
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I think with Harry what is shows is how different ODI cricket was in the 90s vs now.
In the 99 CWC 300 was only scored 3 times in the whole tournament.
I read an article that said in 1999 the average strike rate of batsmen in ODIs was 73.47 and in 2019 the average strike rate was 92.18.
Harry these days wouldn't be nearly as valuable as he was in the 90s. Different era.
@kiwimurph said in Black Clash:
I think with Harry what is shows is how different ODI cricket was in the 90s vs now.
In the 99 CWC 300 was only scored 3 times in the whole tournament.
I read an article that said in 1999 the average strike rate of batsmen in ODIs was 73.47 and in 2019 the average strike rate was 92.18.
Harry these days wouldn't be nearly as valuable as he was in the 90s. Different era.
Definitely, I was surprised he didn’t have more big moments but I might stop commenting now in case I get ripped apart again.
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@kiwimurph said in Black Clash:
I think with Harry what is shows is how different ODI cricket was in the 90s vs now.
In the 99 CWC 300 was only scored 3 times in the whole tournament.
I read an article that said in 1999 the average strike rate of batsmen in ODIs was 73.47 and in 2019 the average strike rate was 92.18.
Harry these days wouldn't be nearly as valuable as he was in the 90s. Different era.
Definitely, I was surprised he didn’t have more big moments but I might stop commenting now in case I get ripped apart again.
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@mn5 mn5 looks to his left, points and exclaims " Hey isn't that George Bridge walking with Ian Foster?"
Pheeww, (wipes brow)
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@kiwimurph said in Black Clash:
I think with Harry what is shows is how different ODI cricket was in the 90s vs now.
In the 99 CWC 300 was only scored 3 times in the whole tournament.
I read an article that said in 1999 the average strike rate of batsmen in ODIs was 73.47 and in 2019 the average strike rate was 92.18.
Harry these days wouldn't be nearly as valuable as he was in the 90s. Different era.
Definitely, I was surprised he didn’t have more big moments but I might stop commenting now in case I get ripped apart again.
@mn5 said in Black Clash:
@kiwimurph said in Black Clash:
I think with Harry what is shows is how different ODI cricket was in the 90s vs now.
In the 99 CWC 300 was only scored 3 times in the whole tournament.
I read an article that said in 1999 the average strike rate of batsmen in ODIs was 73.47 and in 2019 the average strike rate was 92.18.
Harry these days wouldn't be nearly as valuable as he was in the 90s. Different era.
Definitely, I was surprised he didn’t have more big moments but I might stop commenting now in case I get ripped apart again.
He had a lot of not outs because his job was often to anchor the latter part of the innings while the other end did the hitting.
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@mn5 said in Black Clash:
@kiwimurph said in Black Clash:
I think with Harry what is shows is how different ODI cricket was in the 90s vs now.
In the 99 CWC 300 was only scored 3 times in the whole tournament.
I read an article that said in 1999 the average strike rate of batsmen in ODIs was 73.47 and in 2019 the average strike rate was 92.18.
Harry these days wouldn't be nearly as valuable as he was in the 90s. Different era.
Definitely, I was surprised he didn’t have more big moments but I might stop commenting now in case I get ripped apart again.
He had a lot of not outs because his job was often to anchor the latter part of the innings while the other end did the hitting.
@godder said in Black Clash:
@mn5 said in Black Clash:
@kiwimurph said in Black Clash:
I think with Harry what is shows is how different ODI cricket was in the 90s vs now.
In the 99 CWC 300 was only scored 3 times in the whole tournament.
I read an article that said in 1999 the average strike rate of batsmen in ODIs was 73.47 and in 2019 the average strike rate was 92.18.
Harry these days wouldn't be nearly as valuable as he was in the 90s. Different era.
Definitely, I was surprised he didn’t have more big moments but I might stop commenting now in case I get ripped apart again.
He had a lot of not outs because his job was often to anchor the latter part of the innings while the other end did the hitting.
Fuck Harry. Worst NZ cricketer ever
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@godder said in Black Clash:
@mn5 said in Black Clash:
@kiwimurph said in Black Clash:
I think with Harry what is shows is how different ODI cricket was in the 90s vs now.
In the 99 CWC 300 was only scored 3 times in the whole tournament.
I read an article that said in 1999 the average strike rate of batsmen in ODIs was 73.47 and in 2019 the average strike rate was 92.18.
Harry these days wouldn't be nearly as valuable as he was in the 90s. Different era.
Definitely, I was surprised he didn’t have more big moments but I might stop commenting now in case I get ripped apart again.
He had a lot of not outs because his job was often to anchor the latter part of the innings while the other end did the hitting.
Fuck Harry. Worst NZ cricketer ever
@mn5 said in Black Clash:
@godder said in Black Clash:
@mn5 said in Black Clash:
@kiwimurph said in Black Clash:
I think with Harry what is shows is how different ODI cricket was in the 90s vs now.
In the 99 CWC 300 was only scored 3 times in the whole tournament.
I read an article that said in 1999 the average strike rate of batsmen in ODIs was 73.47 and in 2019 the average strike rate was 92.18.
Harry these days wouldn't be nearly as valuable as he was in the 90s. Different era.
Definitely, I was surprised he didn’t have more big moments but I might stop commenting now in case I get ripped apart again.
He had a lot of not outs because his job was often to anchor the latter part of the innings while the other end did the hitting.
Fuck Harry. Worst NZ cricketer ever
Harry fan here as well. Best in the field, good at slowing the economy rate, anchor of a batsman saving us from some low scores on multiple times.
But mainly because of two thing.
- The game where he hit two 6's and the tv camera's actually managed to follow the ball. For the young 'uns on the board, when players used to hit a 6 you used to stare at nothing as the definition / lighting was so bad you could never see the ball until it came down to the crowd and you saw people jumping for it.
- Side on run out in the opening match of the 92 world cup.
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@mn5 said in Black Clash:
@godder said in Black Clash:
@mn5 said in Black Clash:
@kiwimurph said in Black Clash:
I think with Harry what is shows is how different ODI cricket was in the 90s vs now.
In the 99 CWC 300 was only scored 3 times in the whole tournament.
I read an article that said in 1999 the average strike rate of batsmen in ODIs was 73.47 and in 2019 the average strike rate was 92.18.
Harry these days wouldn't be nearly as valuable as he was in the 90s. Different era.
Definitely, I was surprised he didn’t have more big moments but I might stop commenting now in case I get ripped apart again.
He had a lot of not outs because his job was often to anchor the latter part of the innings while the other end did the hitting.
Fuck Harry. Worst NZ cricketer ever
Harry fan here as well. Best in the field, good at slowing the economy rate, anchor of a batsman saving us from some low scores on multiple times.
But mainly because of two thing.
- The game where he hit two 6's and the tv camera's actually managed to follow the ball. For the young 'uns on the board, when players used to hit a 6 you used to stare at nothing as the definition / lighting was so bad you could never see the ball until it came down to the crowd and you saw people jumping for it.
- Side on run out in the opening match of the 92 world cup.
@majorrage said in Black Clash:
@mn5 said in Black Clash:
@godder said in Black Clash:
@mn5 said in Black Clash:
@kiwimurph said in Black Clash:
I think with Harry what is shows is how different ODI cricket was in the 90s vs now.
In the 99 CWC 300 was only scored 3 times in the whole tournament.
I read an article that said in 1999 the average strike rate of batsmen in ODIs was 73.47 and in 2019 the average strike rate was 92.18.
Harry these days wouldn't be nearly as valuable as he was in the 90s. Different era.
Definitely, I was surprised he didn’t have more big moments but I might stop commenting now in case I get ripped apart again.
He had a lot of not outs because his job was often to anchor the latter part of the innings while the other end did the hitting.
Fuck Harry. Worst NZ cricketer ever
Harry fan here as well. Best in the field, good at slowing the economy rate, anchor of a batsman saving us from some low scores on multiple times.
But mainly because of two thing.
- The game where he hit two 6's and the tv camera's actually managed to follow the ball. For the young 'uns on the board, when players used to hit a 6 you used to stare at nothing as the definition / lighting was so bad you could never see the ball until it came down to the crowd and you saw people jumping for it.
- Side on run out in the opening match of the 92 world cup.
Yeah he was bloody good in the the field wasn’t he ?
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Kieran Read paid the price for facing pace...
Check out the last pic
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I think with Harry what is shows is how different ODI cricket was in the 90s vs now.
In the 99 CWC 300 was only scored 3 times in the whole tournament.
I read an article that said in 1999 the average strike rate of batsmen in ODIs was 73.47 and in 2019 the average strike rate was 92.18.
Harry these days wouldn't be nearly as valuable as he was in the 90s. Different era.
@kiwimurph said in Black Clash:
I think with Harry what is shows is how different ODI cricket was in the 90s vs now.
In the 99 CWC 300 was only scored 3 times in the whole tournament.
I read an article that said in 1999 the average strike rate of batsmen in ODIs was 73.47 and in 2019 the average strike rate was 92.18.
Harry these days wouldn't be nearly as valuable as he was in the 90s. Different era.
Harry as a bowler would have been even more effective in T20 IMO. By the mid-point of his career his bowling revolved more around changes of pace and variation than bowling cutters - which is exactly what T20 bowling at his pace is all about. He also seemed to massively benefit from the batsman going after him rather than milking him.
As a batsman though it is tough to see that he would have been even a middle order player. He had a bit of that Ross Taylor thing where his hands moved five times faster than his feet for the first 25 balls of his innings and so was often bogged down early even though he was canny at finding the gaps once he got things going. The lack of a real top gear would make it tough for him to bat any higher than 8.
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Teams thus far:
Team Rugby:
Graham Henry - coach
Scott Robertson - manager
Kieran Read
Will Jordan
Jordie Barrett
Israel Dagg
Richie McCawTeam Cricket:
Chris Martin
Daniel Vettori
Grant Elliott
Adam Parore
Anton Devcich
Jacob Oram
Kyle Mills
This year's wild card: Nick Cummins the Honey Badger!! -
Teams thus far:
Team Rugby:
Graham Henry - coach
Scott Robertson - manager
Kieran Read
Will Jordan
Jordie Barrett
Israel Dagg
Richie McCawTeam Cricket:
Chris Martin
Daniel Vettori
Grant Elliott
Adam Parore
Anton Devcich
Jacob Oram
Kyle Mills
This year's wild card: Nick Cummins the Honey Badger!!@Stargazer said in Black Clash:
Teams thus far:
Team Rugby:
Graham Henry - coach
Scott Robertson - manager
Kieran Read
Will Jordan
Jordie Barrett
Israel Dagg
Richie McCawTeam Cricket:
Chris Martin
Daniel Vettori
Grant Elliott
Adam Parore
Anton Devcich
Jacob Oram
Kyle Mills
This year's wild card: Nick Cummins the Honey Badger!!I assume Ruben Love will be in Team Rugby considering he was in the squad last year. Awesome to see the Honey Badger there, hopefully they get him mic'd up.
