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  • M Machpants

    @Stargazer said in Foster, Robertson etc:

    @Machpants I agree. It doesn't read to me as a requirement either, but I'm not sure it's because "they don't think he is good enough" (as you suggest). It could also have to do with the fact that he has just been the head coach of one of our main rivals and that they want some time in-between that gig and the ABs head coach gig.

    Also agree that this comes from the rumour mill, nothing factual.

    Possibly, maybe they don't want the look of getting Ozzies left overs - NZR are proud, unlike AR! But really if they were competent, that should mean jack shit, so I was being generous that they think he isn't good enough, rather than being so proud as not to consider an Ozzie reject

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    @Machpants Or just possibly they have seen he wasn't too great at test level, so think he needs a bit more, or more importantly think mentally he would need a decent break. He's burnt the bridge by his record with Wallabies anyway, like it or not.

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    • M Machpants

      @Stargazer said in Foster, Robertson etc:

      @Machpants I agree. It doesn't read to me as a requirement either, but I'm not sure it's because "they don't think he is good enough" (as you suggest). It could also have to do with the fact that he has just been the head coach of one of our main rivals and that they want some time in-between that gig and the ABs head coach gig.

      Also agree that this comes from the rumour mill, nothing factual.

      Possibly, maybe they don't want the look of getting Ozzies left overs - NZR are proud, unlike AR! But really if they were competent, that should mean jack shit, so I was being generous that they think he isn't good enough, rather than being so proud as not to consider an Ozzie reject

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      @Machpants You're giving a negative interpretation to what I said and this is definitely not what I meant.

      Even if he had completed his job with the Wallabies, that might have prevented him from getting the job because he has just coached one of our main rivals. With Joseph you don't get that, because Japan isn't a traditional rival. It might just be a timing thing.

      Anyway, it's all speculation.

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        Fuck Dave Rennie.
        Enjoy gardening you fucking Aussie.

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        • NepiaN Nepia

          NZR should lend Razor to Fiji for the year, he can get some international and RWC experience all in one go before taking over the ABs next year.

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          @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

          NZR should lend Razor to Fiji for the year, he can get some international and RWC experience all in one go before taking over the ABs next year.

          NZR won't hire them on the basis that he didn't achieve a 100% record with Fiji in 2023.

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            Fuck Dave Rennie.
            Enjoy gardening you fucking Aussie.

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            @gt12 get over yourself. Considering who he was coaching and their injuries he did a pretty good job. So you should direct your anger towards is the New Zealand rugby football union for the safe and stupid selection of Foster when they should have been considering more astute coaches like Rennie. So far as I'm concerned, he's welcome to anywhere back in New Zealand.

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            • broughieB broughie

              @gt12 get over yourself. Considering who he was coaching and their injuries he did a pretty good job. So you should direct your anger towards is the New Zealand rugby football union for the safe and stupid selection of Foster when they should have been considering more astute coaches like Rennie. So far as I'm concerned, he's welcome to anywhere back in New Zealand.

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              @broughie lol you should take yourself just a little more seriously

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                @broughie lol you should take yourself just a little more seriously

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                @mariner4life thanks for the feedback bro!

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                  @mariner4life thanks for the feedback bro!

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                  @broughie Next year looks very interesting a new coaching setup and a number of players leaving after the World Cup. While many players have left it seems we could get a lot of coaches back from overseas.

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                    @broughie Next year looks very interesting a new coaching setup and a number of players leaving after the World Cup. While many players have left it seems we could get a lot of coaches back from overseas.

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                    @SBW1 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                    @broughie Next year looks very interesting a new coaching setup and a number of players leaving after the World Cup. While many players have left it seems we could get a lot of coaches back from overseas.

                    You think Vern Cotter might fancy the Hurricanes job assuming Holland's contract isn't extended after 2023?

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                    • A Asterik6

                      @SBW1 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                      @broughie Next year looks very interesting a new coaching setup and a number of players leaving after the World Cup. While many players have left it seems we could get a lot of coaches back from overseas.

                      You think Vern Cotter might fancy the Hurricanes job assuming Holland's contract isn't extended after 2023?

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                      @Asterik6 Brad Thorn is off contract and even this year we have a few coaches returning which have some role in this year's Super Comp. For all of the playing and coaching talent that goes abroad we still get some of it coming back.

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                      • S SBW1

                        @Asterik6 Brad Thorn is off contract and even this year we have a few coaches returning which have some role in this year's Super Comp. For all of the playing and coaching talent that goes abroad we still get some of it coming back.

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                        @SBW1 Brad Thorn won't be coaching here in NZ though, he's really an Aussie (and not sure he's a great coach anyway) and doubt he will go anywhere.

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                        • A Asterik6

                          @SBW1 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                          @broughie Next year looks very interesting a new coaching setup and a number of players leaving after the World Cup. While many players have left it seems we could get a lot of coaches back from overseas.

                          You think Vern Cotter might fancy the Hurricanes job assuming Holland's contract isn't extended after 2023?

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                          @Asterik6 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                          @SBW1 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                          @broughie Next year looks very interesting a new coaching setup and a number of players leaving after the World Cup. While many players have left it seems we could get a lot of coaches back from overseas.

                          You think Vern Cotter might fancy the Hurricanes job assuming Holland's contract isn't extended after 2023?

                          Or back to the Crusaders were he has been a coach before in 2005 & 2006.

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                          • ChrisC Chris

                            @Asterik6 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                            @SBW1 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                            @broughie Next year looks very interesting a new coaching setup and a number of players leaving after the World Cup. While many players have left it seems we could get a lot of coaches back from overseas.

                            You think Vern Cotter might fancy the Hurricanes job assuming Holland's contract isn't extended after 2023?

                            Or back to the Crusaders were he has been a coach before in 2005 & 2006.

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                            @Chris That is what I was meaning, alot of returnees will probably slot into roles in the background like assistant coaches or directors of rugby.

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                              Chris Boyd is back in the country, too. He now has a coaching mentoring role at the Highlanders, but maybe he fancies a coaching gig from next year?

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                                If Robertson does get the AB gig from 2024, and the assistants he wanted last year, there will be 3 SR head coaching jobs available (Blues, Hurricanes and Crusaders). We know the Blues had a succession plan, but I don't know about the other two franchises.

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                                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                  If Robertson does get the AB gig from 2024, and the assistants he wanted last year, there will be 3 SR head coaching jobs available (Blues, Hurricanes and Crusaders). We know the Blues had a succession plan, but I don't know about the other two franchises.

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                                  @Bovidae said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                  If Robertson does get the AB gig from 2024, and the assistants he wanted last year, there will be 3 SR head coaching jobs available (Blues, Hurricanes and Crusaders). We know the Blues had a succession plan, but I don't know about the other two franchises.

                                  As long as Holland leaves, I'm all good with that

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                                    Interesting to see Crusaders CEO hinting that Razor perhaps gets too much credit for the squads resuts?
                                    But really bloody interesting to see hgow good their academy is and how much they seem to spend on it!
                                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300796610/webb-of-intrigue-the-man-behind-the-crusaders-production-line

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                                      Interesting to see Crusaders CEO hinting that Razor perhaps gets too much credit for the squads resuts?
                                      But really bloody interesting to see hgow good their academy is and how much they seem to spend on it!
                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300796610/webb-of-intrigue-the-man-behind-the-crusaders-production-line

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                                      @Dan54 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                      Interesting to see Crusaders CEO hinting that Razor perhaps gets too much credit for the squads resuts?
                                      But really bloody interesting to see hgow good their academy is and how much they seem to spend on it!
                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300796610/webb-of-intrigue-the-man-behind-the-crusaders-production-line

                                      It is notable that Blackadder had a very good squad and never won a chip for the same organisation

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                                      • canefanC canefan

                                        @Dan54 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                        Interesting to see Crusaders CEO hinting that Razor perhaps gets too much credit for the squads resuts?
                                        But really bloody interesting to see hgow good their academy is and how much they seem to spend on it!
                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300796610/webb-of-intrigue-the-man-behind-the-crusaders-production-line

                                        It is notable that Blackadder had a very good squad and never won a chip for the same organisation

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                                        @canefan said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                        @Dan54 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                        Interesting to see Crusaders CEO hinting that Razor perhaps gets too much credit for the squads resuts?
                                        But really bloody interesting to see hgow good their academy is and how much they seem to spend on it!
                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300796610/webb-of-intrigue-the-man-behind-the-crusaders-production-line

                                        It is notable that Blackadder had a very good squad and never won a chip for the same organisation

                                        Mate don't tell me , I didn't say it. I actually thought it was more interesting to see about how the academy works how much Crusaders put into it (same as the actual Crusaders squad) and the forward planning they do (ie seeing where they think they need players in certain position a few years ahead). Out of interest he only talking about the last 10 years since he been there and the set up, and would Blackadder of even benefited from that set up? Did you not read it?

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                                        • Dan54D Dan54

                                          @canefan said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                          @Dan54 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                          Interesting to see Crusaders CEO hinting that Razor perhaps gets too much credit for the squads resuts?
                                          But really bloody interesting to see hgow good their academy is and how much they seem to spend on it!
                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300796610/webb-of-intrigue-the-man-behind-the-crusaders-production-line

                                          It is notable that Blackadder had a very good squad and never won a chip for the same organisation

                                          Mate don't tell me , I didn't say it. I actually thought it was more interesting to see about how the academy works how much Crusaders put into it (same as the actual Crusaders squad) and the forward planning they do (ie seeing where they think they need players in certain position a few years ahead). Out of interest he only talking about the last 10 years since he been there and the set up, and would Blackadder of even benefited from that set up? Did you not read it?

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                                          @Dan54 Robertson has been with the Crusaders for 6 seasons. Blackadder had the 8 seasons before that. You can do the math; Blackadder would have been able to benefit at least the last few seasons he was coaching them.

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