Foster, Robertson etc
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@Stargazer said in Foster, Robertson etc:
The Black Ferns need a new head coach, too (Whitney Hansen has declined the promotion, I think).
She has said she isn't ready yet (which is a little different as she did so before being asked).
The money is on Alan Bunting who appears to have ditched his Manawa job in anticipation.
Either he will be announced before Aupiki so everyone knows who they are trying to impress and he can do his job openly from the stands as a selector, or it will be kept under wraps to not distract from the comp.
I understand that there are a number of BF pro contract places becoming available (numbers are capped) so selection identification is going to be very important. I am picking that assistants stay they same although possibly Aupiki coaches will be being judged as well. -
@KiwiMurph said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Crucial I believe Rennie is still contracted this year to RA on gardening leave.
Rennie is also out of the running for the AB job too (according to Newshub). He isn't going to return to SR first, NZR.
@Bovidae er, not sure im reading you right, so now a coach needs international experience and then to return to Super first?
Not sure anyone ticks that list...
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@KiwiMurph said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Crucial I believe Rennie is still contracted this year to RA on gardening leave.
Rennie is also out of the running for the AB job too (according to Newshub). He isn't going to return to SR first, NZR.
@Bovidae said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@KiwiMurph said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Crucial I believe Rennie is still contracted this year to RA on gardening leave.
Rennie is also out of the running for the AB job too (according to Newshub). He isn't going to return to SR first, NZR.
That is mind blowing if that is now a requirement to be AB coach.
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Here is the article with the video from last night's story. NZR seem to like shifting the goal posts.
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Here is the article with the video from last night's story. NZR seem to like shifting the goal posts.
@Bovidae said in Foster, Robertson etc:
Here is the article with the video from last night's story. NZR seem to like shifting the goal posts.
No it doesn't at all. There is nothing that says he is disqualified for applying just that they don't think he is good enough. And it is all conjecture/rumours
"But sources close to the situation have told Newshub Rennie will not be considered for the position, when Foster’s contract ends after the World Cup, although NZR would welcome him back into coaching, preferring a Super Rugby-type role first."
Nothing there says he's 'not allowed' especially since Joseph/Brown are mentioned as possibilities straight after. Just that he won't be considered, similar to me
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@Bovidae said in Foster, Robertson etc:
Here is the article with the video from last night's story. NZR seem to like shifting the goal posts.
No it doesn't at all. There is nothing that says he is disqualified for applying just that they don't think he is good enough. And it is all conjecture/rumours
"But sources close to the situation have told Newshub Rennie will not be considered for the position, when Foster’s contract ends after the World Cup, although NZR would welcome him back into coaching, preferring a Super Rugby-type role first."
Nothing there says he's 'not allowed' especially since Joseph/Brown are mentioned as possibilities straight after. Just that he won't be considered, similar to me
@Machpants I agree. It doesn't read to me as a requirement either, but I'm not sure it's because "they don't think he is good enough" (as you suggest). It could also have to do with the fact that he has just been the head coach of one of our main rivals and that they want some time in-between that gig and the ABs head coach gig.
Also agree that this comes from the rumour mill, nothing factual.
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@Machpants I agree. It doesn't read to me as a requirement either, but I'm not sure it's because "they don't think he is good enough" (as you suggest). It could also have to do with the fact that he has just been the head coach of one of our main rivals and that they want some time in-between that gig and the ABs head coach gig.
Also agree that this comes from the rumour mill, nothing factual.
@Stargazer said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Machpants I agree. It doesn't read to me as a requirement either, but I'm not sure it's because "they don't think he is good enough" (as you suggest). It could also have to do with the fact that he has just been the head coach of one of our main rivals and that they want some time in-between that gig and the ABs head coach gig.
Also agree that this comes from the rumour mill, nothing factual.
Possibly, maybe they don't want the look of getting Ozzies left overs - NZR are proud, unlike AR! But really if they were competent, that should mean jack shit, so I was being generous that they think he isn't good enough, rather than being so proud as not to consider an Ozzie reject
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@Stargazer said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Machpants I agree. It doesn't read to me as a requirement either, but I'm not sure it's because "they don't think he is good enough" (as you suggest). It could also have to do with the fact that he has just been the head coach of one of our main rivals and that they want some time in-between that gig and the ABs head coach gig.
Also agree that this comes from the rumour mill, nothing factual.
Possibly, maybe they don't want the look of getting Ozzies left overs - NZR are proud, unlike AR! But really if they were competent, that should mean jack shit, so I was being generous that they think he isn't good enough, rather than being so proud as not to consider an Ozzie reject
@Machpants Or just possibly they have seen he wasn't too great at test level, so think he needs a bit more, or more importantly think mentally he would need a decent break. He's burnt the bridge by his record with Wallabies anyway, like it or not.
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@Stargazer said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Machpants I agree. It doesn't read to me as a requirement either, but I'm not sure it's because "they don't think he is good enough" (as you suggest). It could also have to do with the fact that he has just been the head coach of one of our main rivals and that they want some time in-between that gig and the ABs head coach gig.
Also agree that this comes from the rumour mill, nothing factual.
Possibly, maybe they don't want the look of getting Ozzies left overs - NZR are proud, unlike AR! But really if they were competent, that should mean jack shit, so I was being generous that they think he isn't good enough, rather than being so proud as not to consider an Ozzie reject
@Machpants You're giving a negative interpretation to what I said and this is definitely not what I meant.
Even if he had completed his job with the Wallabies, that might have prevented him from getting the job because he has just coached one of our main rivals. With Joseph you don't get that, because Japan isn't a traditional rival. It might just be a timing thing.
Anyway, it's all speculation.
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NZR should lend Razor to Fiji for the year, he can get some international and RWC experience all in one go before taking over the ABs next year.
@Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:
NZR should lend Razor to Fiji for the year, he can get some international and RWC experience all in one go before taking over the ABs next year.
NZR won't hire them on the basis that he didn't achieve a 100% record with Fiji in 2023.
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@gt12 get over yourself. Considering who he was coaching and their injuries he did a pretty good job. So you should direct your anger towards is the New Zealand rugby football union for the safe and stupid selection of Foster when they should have been considering more astute coaches like Rennie. So far as I'm concerned, he's welcome to anywhere back in New Zealand.
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@gt12 get over yourself. Considering who he was coaching and their injuries he did a pretty good job. So you should direct your anger towards is the New Zealand rugby football union for the safe and stupid selection of Foster when they should have been considering more astute coaches like Rennie. So far as I'm concerned, he's welcome to anywhere back in New Zealand.
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@broughie lol you should take yourself just a little more seriously
@mariner4life thanks for the feedback bro!
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@mariner4life thanks for the feedback bro!
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@broughie Next year looks very interesting a new coaching setup and a number of players leaving after the World Cup. While many players have left it seems we could get a lot of coaches back from overseas.
@SBW1 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@broughie Next year looks very interesting a new coaching setup and a number of players leaving after the World Cup. While many players have left it seems we could get a lot of coaches back from overseas.
You think Vern Cotter might fancy the Hurricanes job assuming Holland's contract isn't extended after 2023?
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@SBW1 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@broughie Next year looks very interesting a new coaching setup and a number of players leaving after the World Cup. While many players have left it seems we could get a lot of coaches back from overseas.
You think Vern Cotter might fancy the Hurricanes job assuming Holland's contract isn't extended after 2023?
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@Asterik6 Brad Thorn is off contract and even this year we have a few coaches returning which have some role in this year's Super Comp. For all of the playing and coaching talent that goes abroad we still get some of it coming back.
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@SBW1 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@broughie Next year looks very interesting a new coaching setup and a number of players leaving after the World Cup. While many players have left it seems we could get a lot of coaches back from overseas.
You think Vern Cotter might fancy the Hurricanes job assuming Holland's contract isn't extended after 2023?
@Asterik6 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@SBW1 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@broughie Next year looks very interesting a new coaching setup and a number of players leaving after the World Cup. While many players have left it seems we could get a lot of coaches back from overseas.
You think Vern Cotter might fancy the Hurricanes job assuming Holland's contract isn't extended after 2023?
Or back to the Crusaders were he has been a coach before in 2005 & 2006.
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@Asterik6 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@SBW1 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@broughie Next year looks very interesting a new coaching setup and a number of players leaving after the World Cup. While many players have left it seems we could get a lot of coaches back from overseas.
You think Vern Cotter might fancy the Hurricanes job assuming Holland's contract isn't extended after 2023?
Or back to the Crusaders were he has been a coach before in 2005 & 2006.
