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  • S SBW1

    @Machpants I wonder if Eddie Jone's appointment may have speed this along. Whoever takes over next year is going to have to oversee a major rebuild as there are so many players leaving. Razor sounds like he is in the boxseat. Wonder who is in contention for the assistants roles.

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    @SBW1 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

    @Machpants I wonder if Eddie Jone's appointment may have speed this along. Whoever takes over next year is going to have to oversee a major rebuild as there are so many players leaving. Razor sounds like he is in the boxseat. Wonder who is in contention for the assistants roles.

    I read somewhere that Robertson is keen to have Holland included as one of his assistants, so if he gets the role that is great news for Hurricanes fans.

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    • DuluthD Duluth

      @Stargazer said in Foster, Robertson etc:

      @taniwharugby said in Foster, Robertson etc:

      I just want the coach announcement to be made, so we can start complaining about something else...

      Yeah, and I'm sick of the media speculation as well. Anything for a click!

      There's a lot of silly speculation in the media but I have no problem with van Royen's reporting today. The direct quotes from Robertson were news worthy

      The question is whether Robertson is playing political games and attempting to put pressure on NZR by making those comments, or if he stupidly blurted out something he wasn't supposed to

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      #4798

      @Duluth said in Foster, Robertson etc:

      @Stargazer said in Foster, Robertson etc:

      @taniwharugby said in Foster, Robertson etc:

      I just want the coach announcement to be made, so we can start complaining about something else...

      Yeah, and I'm sick of the media speculation as well. Anything for a click!

      There's a lot of silly speculation in the media but I have no problem with van Royen's reporting today. The direct quotes from Robertson were news worthy

      The question is whether Robertson is playing political games and attempting to put pressure on NZR by making those comments, or if he stupidly blurted out something he wasn't supposed to

      Seems to talk to journalists too much.

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      • DuluthD Duluth

        @Stargazer said in Foster, Robertson etc:

        @taniwharugby said in Foster, Robertson etc:

        I just want the coach announcement to be made, so we can start complaining about something else...

        Yeah, and I'm sick of the media speculation as well. Anything for a click!

        There's a lot of silly speculation in the media but I have no problem with van Royen's reporting today. The direct quotes from Robertson were news worthy

        The question is whether Robertson is playing political games and attempting to put pressure on NZR by making those comments, or if he stupidly blurted out something he wasn't supposed to

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        @Duluth said in Foster, Robertson etc:

        @Stargazer said in Foster, Robertson etc:

        @taniwharugby said in Foster, Robertson etc:

        I just want the coach announcement to be made, so we can start complaining about something else...

        Yeah, and I'm sick of the media speculation as well. Anything for a click!

        There's a lot of silly speculation in the media but I have no problem with van Royen's reporting today. The direct quotes from Robertson were news worthy

        The question is whether Robertson is playing political games and attempting to put pressure on NZR by making those comments, or if he stupidly blurted out something he wasn't supposed to

        This comment is interesting to me:

        “I’ve had options, but I’ve always said, my preference is to be here in New Zealand and coach my country, but I’ve also been really patient. I think where we are now, we’re going to deal with rather than what has happened....the next two weeks is big.
        

        Has he been that patient? He's been basically telling them to appoint him or he'll leave. I don't mind him doing so either, but I'm not sure that makes him patient, given he is under contract here.

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        • gt12G gt12

          @Duluth said in Foster, Robertson etc:

          @Stargazer said in Foster, Robertson etc:

          @taniwharugby said in Foster, Robertson etc:

          I just want the coach announcement to be made, so we can start complaining about something else...

          Yeah, and I'm sick of the media speculation as well. Anything for a click!

          There's a lot of silly speculation in the media but I have no problem with van Royen's reporting today. The direct quotes from Robertson were news worthy

          The question is whether Robertson is playing political games and attempting to put pressure on NZR by making those comments, or if he stupidly blurted out something he wasn't supposed to

          This comment is interesting to me:

          “I’ve had options, but I’ve always said, my preference is to be here in New Zealand and coach my country, but I’ve also been really patient. I think where we are now, we’re going to deal with rather than what has happened....the next two weeks is big.
          

          Has he been that patient? He's been basically telling them to appoint him or he'll leave. I don't mind him doing so either, but I'm not sure that makes him patient, given he is under contract here.

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          @gt12 I think it's a fair comment that he's been patient. He's hung around 4 more years in NZ after being passed over for Foster.

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          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

            @gt12 I think it's a fair comment that he's been patient. He's hung around 4 more years in NZ after being passed over for Foster.

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            @KiwiMurph agreed even more so considering foster has survived a contract extension and a review from memory

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              At this stage anyone other than Foster is a good pick and if it's announced before the WC then more the better!!

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                It has been an abysmal 4 years not only in results but in terms of innovation, direction, tactics, etc. Same results but a sense of building, a new approach, etc, would have been far more acceptable. I feel 4 years have been frustratingly wasted.

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                • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                  @SBW1 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                  @Machpants I wonder if Eddie Jone's appointment may have speed this along. Whoever takes over next year is going to have to oversee a major rebuild as there are so many players leaving. Razor sounds like he is in the boxseat. Wonder who is in contention for the assistants roles.

                  I read somewhere that Robertson is keen to have Holland included as one of his assistants, so if he gets the role that is great news for Hurricanes fans.

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                  #4804

                  @Canes4life said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                  @SBW1 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                  @Machpants I wonder if Eddie Jone's appointment may have speed this along. Whoever takes over next year is going to have to oversee a major rebuild as there are so many players leaving. Razor sounds like he is in the boxseat. Wonder who is in contention for the assistants roles.

                  I read somewhere that Robertson is keen to have Holland included as one of his assistants, so if he gets the role that is great news for Hurricanes fans.

                  Then you can replace him with the other Jason - former Manawatu head coach, probably their best ever, now coaching Suntory with remarkable success.

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                    #4805

                    he doesn't seem to care about making friends, thought i saw NZR say nothing anytime soon....then razor says this

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                    • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

                      @Canes4life said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                      @SBW1 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                      @Machpants I wonder if Eddie Jone's appointment may have speed this along. Whoever takes over next year is going to have to oversee a major rebuild as there are so many players leaving. Razor sounds like he is in the boxseat. Wonder who is in contention for the assistants roles.

                      I read somewhere that Robertson is keen to have Holland included as one of his assistants, so if he gets the role that is great news for Hurricanes fans.

                      Then you can replace him with the other Jason - former Manawatu head coach, probably their best ever, now coaching Suntory with remarkable success.

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                      @kiwi_expat O'Halloran...always very insightful when he speaks

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                      • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                        he doesn't seem to care about making friends, thought i saw NZR say nothing anytime soon....then razor says this

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                        @Kiwiwomble That could be about the appointment process, not necessarily the appointment itself. He later says 1 or 2 weeks, which is consistent with the date NZR bosses meet (23 February) to discuss that process.

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                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                          @gt12 I think it's a fair comment that he's been patient. He's hung around 4 more years in NZ after being passed over for Foster.

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                          #4808

                          @KiwiMurph said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                          @gt12 I think it's a fair comment that he's been patient. He's hung around 4 more years in NZ after being passed over for Foster.

                          He made himself unavailable for any other position other than head coach.

                          He better be fucking good because he comes across as a bit of a tool to me.

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                          • gt12G gt12

                            @Duluth said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                            @Stargazer said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                            @taniwharugby said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                            I just want the coach announcement to be made, so we can start complaining about something else...

                            Yeah, and I'm sick of the media speculation as well. Anything for a click!

                            There's a lot of silly speculation in the media but I have no problem with van Royen's reporting today. The direct quotes from Robertson were news worthy

                            The question is whether Robertson is playing political games and attempting to put pressure on NZR by making those comments, or if he stupidly blurted out something he wasn't supposed to

                            This comment is interesting to me:

                            “I’ve had options, but I’ve always said, my preference is to be here in New Zealand and coach my country, but I’ve also been really patient. I think where we are now, we’re going to deal with rather than what has happened....the next two weeks is big.
                            

                            Has he been that patient? He's been basically telling them to appoint him or he'll leave. I don't mind him doing so either, but I'm not sure that makes him patient, given he is under contract here.

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                            #4809

                            @gt12 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                            @Duluth said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                            @Stargazer said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                            @taniwharugby said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                            I just want the coach announcement to be made, so we can start complaining about something else...

                            Yeah, and I'm sick of the media speculation as well. Anything for a click!

                            There's a lot of silly speculation in the media but I have no problem with van Royen's reporting today. The direct quotes from Robertson were news worthy

                            The question is whether Robertson is playing political games and attempting to put pressure on NZR by making those comments, or if he stupidly blurted out something he wasn't supposed to

                            This comment is interesting to me:

                            “I’ve had options, but I’ve always said, my preference is to be here in New Zealand and coach my country, but I’ve also been really patient. I think where we are now, we’re going to deal with rather than what has happened....the next two weeks is big.
                            

                            Has he been that patient? He's been basically telling them to appoint him or he'll leave. I don't mind him doing so either, but I'm not sure that makes him patient, given he is under contract here.

                            Did you miss the part where Razor missed out on the job after an 'exhaustive process' in 2019, due to Fosters 'superior assistants' - Robinson and Impey's words, only for them to extend Foster's employment after said 'superior assistants' were swapped out.

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                            • gt12G gt12

                              @KiwiMurph said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                              @gt12 I think it's a fair comment that he's been patient. He's hung around 4 more years in NZ after being passed over for Foster.

                              He made himself unavailable for any other position other than head coach.

                              He better be fucking good because he comes across as a bit of a tool to me.

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                              #4810

                              @gt12 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                              @KiwiMurph said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                              @gt12 I think it's a fair comment that he's been patient. He's hung around 4 more years in NZ after being passed over for Foster.

                              He made himself unavailable for any other position other than head coach.

                              He better be fucking good because he comes across as a bit of a tool to me.

                              So did Foster when he applied,Every coach applies as Head Coach in any sport, you don't go into a head coach application role and say if I am not good enough for Head coach can I please have an assistant role you are Fucked from the outset.
                              Every coach applying for HC applies for that position,not assistant roles when has that ever happened.

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                              • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

                                @gt12 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                @Duluth said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                @Stargazer said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                @taniwharugby said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                I just want the coach announcement to be made, so we can start complaining about something else...

                                Yeah, and I'm sick of the media speculation as well. Anything for a click!

                                There's a lot of silly speculation in the media but I have no problem with van Royen's reporting today. The direct quotes from Robertson were news worthy

                                The question is whether Robertson is playing political games and attempting to put pressure on NZR by making those comments, or if he stupidly blurted out something he wasn't supposed to

                                This comment is interesting to me:

                                “I’ve had options, but I’ve always said, my preference is to be here in New Zealand and coach my country, but I’ve also been really patient. I think where we are now, we’re going to deal with rather than what has happened....the next two weeks is big.
                                

                                Has he been that patient? He's been basically telling them to appoint him or he'll leave. I don't mind him doing so either, but I'm not sure that makes him patient, given he is under contract here.

                                Did you miss the part where Razor missed out on the job after an 'exhaustive process' in 2019, due to Fosters 'superior assistants' - Robinson and Impey's words, only for them to extend Foster's employment after said 'superior assistants' were swapped out.

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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #4811

                                @kiwi_expat said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                @gt12 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                @Duluth said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                @Stargazer said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                @taniwharugby said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                I just want the coach announcement to be made, so we can start complaining about something else...

                                Yeah, and I'm sick of the media speculation as well. Anything for a click!

                                There's a lot of silly speculation in the media but I have no problem with van Royen's reporting today. The direct quotes from Robertson were news worthy

                                The question is whether Robertson is playing political games and attempting to put pressure on NZR by making those comments, or if he stupidly blurted out something he wasn't supposed to

                                This comment is interesting to me:

                                “I’ve had options, but I’ve always said, my preference is to be here in New Zealand and coach my country, but I’ve also been really patient. I think where we are now, we’re going to deal with rather than what has happened....the next two weeks is big.
                                

                                Has he been that patient? He's been basically telling them to appoint him or he'll leave. I don't mind him doing so either, but I'm not sure that makes him patient, given he is under contract here.

                                Did you miss the part where Razor missed out on the job after an 'exhaustive process' in 2019, due to Fosters 'superior assistants' - Robinson and Impey's words, only for them to extend Foster's employment after said 'superior assistants' were swapped out.

                                Swapped out for one of Razor's Asst too!

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                                  Some fuel for the rumor fire. I read yesterday from a commenter on 'The Roar' site who claimed to have a contact high up in Rugby Australia who told him that Rennie is going to the Blues and Rangi to the All Blacks.

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                                  • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

                                    @Canes4life said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                    @SBW1 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                    @Machpants I wonder if Eddie Jone's appointment may have speed this along. Whoever takes over next year is going to have to oversee a major rebuild as there are so many players leaving. Razor sounds like he is in the boxseat. Wonder who is in contention for the assistants roles.

                                    I read somewhere that Robertson is keen to have Holland included as one of his assistants, so if he gets the role that is great news for Hurricanes fans.

                                    Then you can replace him with the other Jason - former Manawatu head coach, probably their best ever, now coaching Suntory with remarkable success.

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                                    Canes4life
                                    wrote on last edited by
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                                    @kiwi_expat said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                    @Canes4life said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                    @SBW1 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                    @Machpants I wonder if Eddie Jone's appointment may have speed this along. Whoever takes over next year is going to have to oversee a major rebuild as there are so many players leaving. Razor sounds like he is in the boxseat. Wonder who is in contention for the assistants roles.

                                    I read somewhere that Robertson is keen to have Holland included as one of his assistants, so if he gets the role that is great news for Hurricanes fans.

                                    Then you can replace him with the other Jason - former Manawatu head coach probably their best ever, now coaching Suntory with incredible success.

                                    With someone like T Ellison as his assistant.

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                                    • gt12G gt12

                                      @KiwiMurph said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                      @gt12 I think it's a fair comment that he's been patient. He's hung around 4 more years in NZ after being passed over for Foster.

                                      He made himself unavailable for any other position other than head coach.

                                      He better be fucking good because he comes across as a bit of a tool to me.

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                                      @gt12 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                      @KiwiMurph said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                      @gt12 I think it's a fair comment that he's been patient. He's hung around 4 more years in NZ after being passed over for Foster.

                                      He made himself unavailable for any other position other than head coach.

                                      He better be fucking good because he comes across as a bit of a tool to me.

                                      Given he went head to head with Foster I don't blame him.

                                      A Hart-Wylie part 2 situation was not going to work.

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                                      • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                                        Some fuel for the rumor fire. I read yesterday from a commenter on 'The Roar' site who claimed to have a contact high up in Rugby Australia who told him that Rennie is going to the Blues and Rangi to the All Blacks.

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                                        @Daffy-Jaffy said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                        Some fuel for the rumor fire. I read yesterday from a commenter on 'The Roar' site who claimed to have a contact high up in Rugby Australia who told him that Rennie is going to the Blues and Rangi to the All Blacks.

                                        I thought Rennie was going to replace Wayne Smith as the Director of Rugby at Kobelco? Better money I'm sure.

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                                        • gt12G gt12

                                          @KiwiMurph said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                          @gt12 I think it's a fair comment that he's been patient. He's hung around 4 more years in NZ after being passed over for Foster.

                                          He made himself unavailable for any other position other than head coach.

                                          He better be fucking good because he comes across as a bit of a tool to me.

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                                          @gt12 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                          @KiwiMurph said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                          @gt12 I think it's a fair comment that he's been patient. He's hung around 4 more years in NZ after being passed over for Foster.

                                          He made himself unavailable for any other position other than head coach.

                                          He better be fucking good because he comes across as a bit of a tool to me.

                                          Is anyone else a little concerned with Razor’s comments?

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