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    Old Samurai Jack
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    It has been an abysmal 4 years not only in results but in terms of innovation, direction, tactics, etc. Same results but a sense of building, a new approach, etc, would have been far more acceptable. I feel 4 years have been frustratingly wasted.

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    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

      @SBW1 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

      @Machpants I wonder if Eddie Jone's appointment may have speed this along. Whoever takes over next year is going to have to oversee a major rebuild as there are so many players leaving. Razor sounds like he is in the boxseat. Wonder who is in contention for the assistants roles.

      I read somewhere that Robertson is keen to have Holland included as one of his assistants, so if he gets the role that is great news for Hurricanes fans.

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      #4804

      @Canes4life said in Foster, Robertson etc:

      @SBW1 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

      @Machpants I wonder if Eddie Jone's appointment may have speed this along. Whoever takes over next year is going to have to oversee a major rebuild as there are so many players leaving. Razor sounds like he is in the boxseat. Wonder who is in contention for the assistants roles.

      I read somewhere that Robertson is keen to have Holland included as one of his assistants, so if he gets the role that is great news for Hurricanes fans.

      Then you can replace him with the other Jason - former Manawatu head coach, probably their best ever, now coaching Suntory with remarkable success.

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        Kiwiwomble
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        #4805

        he doesn't seem to care about making friends, thought i saw NZR say nothing anytime soon....then razor says this

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        • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

          @Canes4life said in Foster, Robertson etc:

          @SBW1 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

          @Machpants I wonder if Eddie Jone's appointment may have speed this along. Whoever takes over next year is going to have to oversee a major rebuild as there are so many players leaving. Razor sounds like he is in the boxseat. Wonder who is in contention for the assistants roles.

          I read somewhere that Robertson is keen to have Holland included as one of his assistants, so if he gets the role that is great news for Hurricanes fans.

          Then you can replace him with the other Jason - former Manawatu head coach, probably their best ever, now coaching Suntory with remarkable success.

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          taniwharugby
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          @kiwi_expat O'Halloran...always very insightful when he speaks

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          • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

            he doesn't seem to care about making friends, thought i saw NZR say nothing anytime soon....then razor says this

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            Stargazer
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            #4807

            @Kiwiwomble That could be about the appointment process, not necessarily the appointment itself. He later says 1 or 2 weeks, which is consistent with the date NZR bosses meet (23 February) to discuss that process.

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            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

              @gt12 I think it's a fair comment that he's been patient. He's hung around 4 more years in NZ after being passed over for Foster.

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              @KiwiMurph said in Foster, Robertson etc:

              @gt12 I think it's a fair comment that he's been patient. He's hung around 4 more years in NZ after being passed over for Foster.

              He made himself unavailable for any other position other than head coach.

              He better be fucking good because he comes across as a bit of a tool to me.

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              • gt12G gt12

                @Duluth said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                @Stargazer said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                @taniwharugby said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                I just want the coach announcement to be made, so we can start complaining about something else...

                Yeah, and I'm sick of the media speculation as well. Anything for a click!

                There's a lot of silly speculation in the media but I have no problem with van Royen's reporting today. The direct quotes from Robertson were news worthy

                The question is whether Robertson is playing political games and attempting to put pressure on NZR by making those comments, or if he stupidly blurted out something he wasn't supposed to

                This comment is interesting to me:

                “I’ve had options, but I’ve always said, my preference is to be here in New Zealand and coach my country, but I’ve also been really patient. I think where we are now, we’re going to deal with rather than what has happened....the next two weeks is big.
                

                Has he been that patient? He's been basically telling them to appoint him or he'll leave. I don't mind him doing so either, but I'm not sure that makes him patient, given he is under contract here.

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                kiwi_expat
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                #4809

                @gt12 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                @Duluth said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                @Stargazer said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                @taniwharugby said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                I just want the coach announcement to be made, so we can start complaining about something else...

                Yeah, and I'm sick of the media speculation as well. Anything for a click!

                There's a lot of silly speculation in the media but I have no problem with van Royen's reporting today. The direct quotes from Robertson were news worthy

                The question is whether Robertson is playing political games and attempting to put pressure on NZR by making those comments, or if he stupidly blurted out something he wasn't supposed to

                This comment is interesting to me:

                “I’ve had options, but I’ve always said, my preference is to be here in New Zealand and coach my country, but I’ve also been really patient. I think where we are now, we’re going to deal with rather than what has happened....the next two weeks is big.
                

                Has he been that patient? He's been basically telling them to appoint him or he'll leave. I don't mind him doing so either, but I'm not sure that makes him patient, given he is under contract here.

                Did you miss the part where Razor missed out on the job after an 'exhaustive process' in 2019, due to Fosters 'superior assistants' - Robinson and Impey's words, only for them to extend Foster's employment after said 'superior assistants' were swapped out.

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                • gt12G gt12

                  @KiwiMurph said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                  @gt12 I think it's a fair comment that he's been patient. He's hung around 4 more years in NZ after being passed over for Foster.

                  He made himself unavailable for any other position other than head coach.

                  He better be fucking good because he comes across as a bit of a tool to me.

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                  #4810

                  @gt12 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                  @KiwiMurph said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                  @gt12 I think it's a fair comment that he's been patient. He's hung around 4 more years in NZ after being passed over for Foster.

                  He made himself unavailable for any other position other than head coach.

                  He better be fucking good because he comes across as a bit of a tool to me.

                  So did Foster when he applied,Every coach applies as Head Coach in any sport, you don't go into a head coach application role and say if I am not good enough for Head coach can I please have an assistant role you are Fucked from the outset.
                  Every coach applying for HC applies for that position,not assistant roles when has that ever happened.

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                  • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

                    @gt12 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                    @Duluth said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                    @Stargazer said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                    @taniwharugby said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                    I just want the coach announcement to be made, so we can start complaining about something else...

                    Yeah, and I'm sick of the media speculation as well. Anything for a click!

                    There's a lot of silly speculation in the media but I have no problem with van Royen's reporting today. The direct quotes from Robertson were news worthy

                    The question is whether Robertson is playing political games and attempting to put pressure on NZR by making those comments, or if he stupidly blurted out something he wasn't supposed to

                    This comment is interesting to me:

                    “I’ve had options, but I’ve always said, my preference is to be here in New Zealand and coach my country, but I’ve also been really patient. I think where we are now, we’re going to deal with rather than what has happened....the next two weeks is big.
                    

                    Has he been that patient? He's been basically telling them to appoint him or he'll leave. I don't mind him doing so either, but I'm not sure that makes him patient, given he is under contract here.

                    Did you miss the part where Razor missed out on the job after an 'exhaustive process' in 2019, due to Fosters 'superior assistants' - Robinson and Impey's words, only for them to extend Foster's employment after said 'superior assistants' were swapped out.

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                    Machpants
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                    #4811

                    @kiwi_expat said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                    @gt12 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                    @Duluth said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                    @Stargazer said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                    @taniwharugby said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                    I just want the coach announcement to be made, so we can start complaining about something else...

                    Yeah, and I'm sick of the media speculation as well. Anything for a click!

                    There's a lot of silly speculation in the media but I have no problem with van Royen's reporting today. The direct quotes from Robertson were news worthy

                    The question is whether Robertson is playing political games and attempting to put pressure on NZR by making those comments, or if he stupidly blurted out something he wasn't supposed to

                    This comment is interesting to me:

                    “I’ve had options, but I’ve always said, my preference is to be here in New Zealand and coach my country, but I’ve also been really patient. I think where we are now, we’re going to deal with rather than what has happened....the next two weeks is big.
                    

                    Has he been that patient? He's been basically telling them to appoint him or he'll leave. I don't mind him doing so either, but I'm not sure that makes him patient, given he is under contract here.

                    Did you miss the part where Razor missed out on the job after an 'exhaustive process' in 2019, due to Fosters 'superior assistants' - Robinson and Impey's words, only for them to extend Foster's employment after said 'superior assistants' were swapped out.

                    Swapped out for one of Razor's Asst too!

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                      Daffy Jaffy
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                      #4812

                      Some fuel for the rumor fire. I read yesterday from a commenter on 'The Roar' site who claimed to have a contact high up in Rugby Australia who told him that Rennie is going to the Blues and Rangi to the All Blacks.

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                      • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

                        @Canes4life said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                        @SBW1 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                        @Machpants I wonder if Eddie Jone's appointment may have speed this along. Whoever takes over next year is going to have to oversee a major rebuild as there are so many players leaving. Razor sounds like he is in the boxseat. Wonder who is in contention for the assistants roles.

                        I read somewhere that Robertson is keen to have Holland included as one of his assistants, so if he gets the role that is great news for Hurricanes fans.

                        Then you can replace him with the other Jason - former Manawatu head coach, probably their best ever, now coaching Suntory with remarkable success.

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                        Canes4life
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                        #4813

                        @kiwi_expat said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                        @Canes4life said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                        @SBW1 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                        @Machpants I wonder if Eddie Jone's appointment may have speed this along. Whoever takes over next year is going to have to oversee a major rebuild as there are so many players leaving. Razor sounds like he is in the boxseat. Wonder who is in contention for the assistants roles.

                        I read somewhere that Robertson is keen to have Holland included as one of his assistants, so if he gets the role that is great news for Hurricanes fans.

                        Then you can replace him with the other Jason - former Manawatu head coach probably their best ever, now coaching Suntory with incredible success.

                        With someone like T Ellison as his assistant.

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                        • gt12G gt12

                          @KiwiMurph said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                          @gt12 I think it's a fair comment that he's been patient. He's hung around 4 more years in NZ after being passed over for Foster.

                          He made himself unavailable for any other position other than head coach.

                          He better be fucking good because he comes across as a bit of a tool to me.

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                          #4814

                          @gt12 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                          @KiwiMurph said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                          @gt12 I think it's a fair comment that he's been patient. He's hung around 4 more years in NZ after being passed over for Foster.

                          He made himself unavailable for any other position other than head coach.

                          He better be fucking good because he comes across as a bit of a tool to me.

                          Given he went head to head with Foster I don't blame him.

                          A Hart-Wylie part 2 situation was not going to work.

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                          • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                            Some fuel for the rumor fire. I read yesterday from a commenter on 'The Roar' site who claimed to have a contact high up in Rugby Australia who told him that Rennie is going to the Blues and Rangi to the All Blacks.

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                            Bovidae
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                            #4815

                            @Daffy-Jaffy said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                            Some fuel for the rumor fire. I read yesterday from a commenter on 'The Roar' site who claimed to have a contact high up in Rugby Australia who told him that Rennie is going to the Blues and Rangi to the All Blacks.

                            I thought Rennie was going to replace Wayne Smith as the Director of Rugby at Kobelco? Better money I'm sure.

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                            • gt12G gt12

                              @KiwiMurph said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                              @gt12 I think it's a fair comment that he's been patient. He's hung around 4 more years in NZ after being passed over for Foster.

                              He made himself unavailable for any other position other than head coach.

                              He better be fucking good because he comes across as a bit of a tool to me.

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                              TheMojoman
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                              #4816

                              @gt12 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                              @KiwiMurph said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                              @gt12 I think it's a fair comment that he's been patient. He's hung around 4 more years in NZ after being passed over for Foster.

                              He made himself unavailable for any other position other than head coach.

                              He better be fucking good because he comes across as a bit of a tool to me.

                              Is anyone else a little concerned with Razor’s comments?

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                              • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                                Some fuel for the rumor fire. I read yesterday from a commenter on 'The Roar' site who claimed to have a contact high up in Rugby Australia who told him that Rennie is going to the Blues and Rangi to the All Blacks.

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                                @Daffy-Jaffy said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                Some fuel for the rumor fire. I read yesterday from a commenter on 'The Roar' site who claimed to have a contact high up in Rugby Australia who told him that Rennie is going to the Blues and Rangi to the All Blacks.

                                Now that would be outstanding. I rate Rennie as a coach although he had been linked with Kobelco in Japan.

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                                • TheMojomanT TheMojoman

                                  @gt12 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                  @KiwiMurph said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                  @gt12 I think it's a fair comment that he's been patient. He's hung around 4 more years in NZ after being passed over for Foster.

                                  He made himself unavailable for any other position other than head coach.

                                  He better be fucking good because he comes across as a bit of a tool to me.

                                  Is anyone else a little concerned with Razor’s comments?

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                                  Kiwiwomble
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                                  @TheMojoman in what way?

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                                  • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                    @TheMojoman in what way?

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                                    Crazy Horse
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                                    @Kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                    @TheMojoman in what way?

                                    Yeah I am wondering in what way too. Sounds to me like a job applicant knows whether he has been successful or not and is waiting for the result to be announced so he can talk about it. Happens all the time in my 'industry'.

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                                    • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                      @TheMojoman in what way?

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                                      #4820

                                      @Kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                      @TheMojoman in what way?

                                      Coach, Wayne Smith is DOC there, so just overseas coaching, and Rennie has been linked with head coaching gig.

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                                        Dan54
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                                        #4821

                                        So what's going on? Is Razor stirring or just a little niave? If reports are correct seems a bit silly of him saying things as yet.

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                                        • Dan54D Dan54

                                          So what's going on? Is Razor stirring or just a little niave? If reports are correct seems a bit silly of him saying things as yet.

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                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #4822

                                          @Dan54 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                          So what's going on? Is Razor stirring or just a little niave? If reports are correct seems a bit silly of him saying things as yet.

                                          Thats Just Razor if he has the Job he will be pumped, he also is a real honest Dude so probably is just being truthful,He is not one to play games with the media maybe it is Niave but he is being true to himself.

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