Foster, Robertson etc
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Maybe we have peaked...
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@Crazy-Horse In 2015?
@Windows97 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Crazy-Horse In 2015?
I meant between 2019 and now. It's a horrible thought
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@canefan said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@BerniesCorner said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@canefan After all the pain us fully paid up AB supporters have suffered over the last 4 years I felt huge relief watching the first half against England knowing we now have a chance at the Web Ellis in 2023.
The main difference, Ryan and a front row.We're not peaking too early this time!
My fear is that we won't peak too early - but not at all.
@Windows97 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@canefan said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@BerniesCorner said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@canefan After all the pain us fully paid up AB supporters have suffered over the last 4 years I felt huge relief watching the first half against England knowing we now have a chance at the Web Ellis in 2023.
The main difference, Ryan and a front row.We're not peaking too early this time!
My fear is that we won't peak too early - but not at all.
Powderless
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We will peak in WC 2023.
The forward pack with the possible exception of 6 have a lot of steel now.
Whether it's good enough to get to the final is another matter.
I'd like to see Blackadder have a decent run this year -
Some unofficial highlanders fan page on FB claiming that Razor has been appointed.
I haven't seen anything official. Any sauces heard anything?
Edit: Seems like he was interviewed earlier and side-stepped the question.
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Some unofficial highlanders fan page on FB claiming that Razor has been appointed.
I haven't seen anything official. Any sauces heard anything?
Edit: Seems like he was interviewed earlier and side-stepped the question.
@gt12 i follow that page and saw that, they post once every few weeks, saw and ignored as some attempt to get people to the page
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@gt12 i follow that page and saw that, they post once every few weeks, saw and ignored as some attempt to get people to the page
@Kiwiwomble the article wording does not reflect well professionally on either Robinson or Robertson. I certainly hope NZRU does not operate on early promises and bending to applicant requests with zero regard for confidentiality. Hardly fair on anyone if that is the case. I certainly hope this is just all unsubstantiated rumours. If not then there is a leak issue too. Robertson has earned his chance but you need to be fair to all parties in my view.
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@Kiwiwomble the article wording does not reflect well professionally on either Robinson or Robertson. I certainly hope NZRU does not operate on early promises and bending to applicant requests with zero regard for confidentiality. Hardly fair on anyone if that is the case. I certainly hope this is just all unsubstantiated rumours. If not then there is a leak issue too. Robertson has earned his chance but you need to be fair to all parties in my view.
@ARHS everything we're getting is through the lens of at least one form of media
if razor is like anyone else in the world he will have talked to his current employer about promotion and advancement....someone from the media asks him if he has talked to NZR about the big job...he says yes...media reports razor in discussion with NZR about AB's coaching job....none of it is incorrect...just slightly filtered to get those clicks
im still interested by the Legend of Marty Banks sticking to his post about an actual leak he got saying joseph was getting the job...very little chat about joseph otherwise
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@Kiwiwomble the article wording does not reflect well professionally on either Robinson or Robertson. I certainly hope NZRU does not operate on early promises and bending to applicant requests with zero regard for confidentiality. Hardly fair on anyone if that is the case. I certainly hope this is just all unsubstantiated rumours. If not then there is a leak issue too. Robertson has earned his chance but you need to be fair to all parties in my view.
@ARHS again, how is it any different to leaks that player x is heading to Japan/Europe?
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@ARHS again, how is it any different to leaks that player x is heading to Japan/Europe?
@taniwharugby said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@ARHS again, how is it any different to leaks that player x is heading to Japan/Europe?
The impact on others is very different. I don't want to see the rwc campaign and player and coach choices and decisions undermined. There are HR laws in this country governing employee relations. Lots of sensitive stuff gets embargoed and is subject to confidentiality until formally announced.
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I don't see it as any different at all, in the past it has impacted selections by players announcing it, when it shouldn't.
Both are employees of NZR so subject to same privacy.
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@ARHS That's a fair enough point for not having an end date, fair cop.
However currently the official word is that "the process" has not begun, and there will be a meeting in late Feb to start "the process".
Are we all to believe that "the process" hasn't started?
The debacle in SA by the NZRU was exactly that - a debacle. Highly unsettling for Foster yet he survived, probably raised Robertson's expectations only to dash them, thoroughly confused in NZ public.
All while apparently taking place without any official start to "the process" of finding the next AB coach.
Yeah right.
This is a very odd way of prioritizing the welfare and needs of all they are responsible for...
@Windows97 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
Are we all to believe that "the process" hasn't started?
The debacle in SA by the NZRU was exactly that - a debacle. Highly unsettling for Foster yet he survived, probably raised Robertson's expectations only to dash them, thoroughly confused in NZ public.
This is a very odd way of prioritizing the welfare and needs of all they are responsible for...
They had already decided to sack Foster in August due to his poor inconsistent record over many years yet a single win caused them to be so reactionary they retracted Robertson's contract offer and continued with Foster.
Apparently it was all set to be announced before they backtracked after the SA game, they were so deep the press releases were already written and photoshoots with Razor's family already organized.
It's a wonder Robertson's even still here and didn't head overseas straight away.
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@Windows97 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
Are we all to believe that "the process" hasn't started?
The debacle in SA by the NZRU was exactly that - a debacle. Highly unsettling for Foster yet he survived, probably raised Robertson's expectations only to dash them, thoroughly confused in NZ public.
This is a very odd way of prioritizing the welfare and needs of all they are responsible for...
They had already decided to sack Foster in August due to his poor inconsistent record over many years yet a single win caused them to be so reactionary they retracted Robertson's contract offer and continued with Foster.
Apparently it was all set to be announced before they backtracked after the SA game, they were so deep the press releases were already written and photoshoots with Razor's family already organized.
It's a wonder Robertson's even still here and didn't head overseas straight away.
@kiwi_expat said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Windows97 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
Are we all to believe that "the process" hasn't started?
The debacle in SA by the NZRU was exactly that - a debacle. Highly unsettling for Foster yet he survived, probably raised Robertson's expectations only to dash them, thoroughly confused in NZ public.
This is a very odd way of prioritizing the welfare and needs of all they are responsible for...
They had already decided to sack Foster in August due to his poor inconsistent record over many years yet a single win caused them to be so reactionary they retracted Robertson's contract offer and continued with Foster.
Apparently it was all set to be announced before they backtracked after the SA game, they were so deep the press releases were already written and photoshoots with Razor's family already organized.
It's a wonder Robertson's even still here and didn't head overseas straight away.
Backtracked after a Player meeting in Mark Robinsons room in SA.
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@Windows97 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
Are we all to believe that "the process" hasn't started?
The debacle in SA by the NZRU was exactly that - a debacle. Highly unsettling for Foster yet he survived, probably raised Robertson's expectations only to dash them, thoroughly confused in NZ public.
This is a very odd way of prioritizing the welfare and needs of all they are responsible for...
They had already decided to sack Foster in August due to his poor inconsistent record over many years yet a single win caused them to be so reactionary they retracted Robertson's contract offer and continued with Foster.
Apparently it was all set to be announced before they backtracked after the SA game, they were so deep the press releases were already written and photoshoots with Razor's family already organized.
It's a wonder Robertson's even still here and didn't head overseas straight away.
@kiwi_expat said in Foster, Robertson etc:
Apparently it was all set to be announced before they backtracked after the SA game, they were so deep the press releases were already written and photoshoots with Razor's family already organized.
So you don't really know then...
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@kiwi_expat said in Foster, Robertson etc:
Apparently it was all set to be announced before they backtracked after the SA game, they were so deep the press releases were already written and photoshoots with Razor's family already organized.
So you don't really know then...
@Victor-Meldrew exactly...all still rumour getting reported as fact
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I think that the only thing that we really can take as true is that Razor was asked if he would be willing to take the job if Foster was let go.
No doubt he said yes but the rest didn't happen.
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@Victor-Meldrew exactly...all still rumour getting reported as fact
@Kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Victor-Meldrew exactly...all still rumour getting reported as fact
It's not a rumour, it's from people who work at NZR.
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@Kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Victor-Meldrew exactly...all still rumour getting reported as fact
It's not a rumour, it's from people who work at NZR.
@kiwi_expat ...pretty sure that's what a rumor is...example....someone in NZR said that NZR offered the job to eddie jones...see...its easy
for it not to be a rumor razor or Mark Robinson would have to give a first hand account publicly
