Foster, Robertson etc

Chris

@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@Kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@Chris the example @Crucial gave seems the most believable, NZR confirm with their employee that he is available to step in if required.....and everything else spirals from there

Maybe,But who would really Know only a handful of people involved.
I think it went a bit further than that so I have heard.But again that is from the perspective from people I have spoken to who are close to the action.
Depends which side you are on probably.

No. It depends on rumour mills and 'twisting' of facts. Not necessarily with bad intention.
Let's say he was asked the question but then staff were asked to prepare a contract to be ready. That would easily end up with 'staff' interpreting this as a done deal that didn't go ahead even if the intention from management was to be ready to move quickly should Foster get ditched or resign.
Razor will have also confided in friends and colleagues as well as his Saders employers and that opens up even more room for interpretation. Being 'offered the job' is the phrase rather than 'offered the job IF it becomes available'. Both are true statements but one adds key detail.

I don't disagree but what I mean by which side you are on,It depends what you believe and maybe add to or take way to make it sound better or worse.
Statements can become rumours good or bad depending who gets hold of the rumours.

Crucial

@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@Kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@Chris the example @Crucial gave seems the most believable, NZR confirm with their employee that he is available to step in if required.....and everything else spirals from there

Maybe,But who would really Know only a handful of people involved.
I think it went a bit further than that so I have heard.But again that is from the perspective from people I have spoken to who are close to the action.
Depends which side you are on probably.

No. It depends on rumour mills and 'twisting' of facts. Not necessarily with bad intention.
Let's say he was asked the question but then staff were asked to prepare a contract to be ready. That would easily end up with 'staff' interpreting this as a done deal that didn't go ahead even if the intention from management was to be ready to move quickly should Foster get ditched or resign.
Razor will have also confided in friends and colleagues as well as his Saders employers and that opens up even more room for interpretation. Being 'offered the job' is the phrase rather than 'offered the job IF it becomes available'. Both are true statements but one adds key detail.

I don't disagree but what I mean by which side you are on,It depends what you believe and maybe add to or take way to make it sound better or worse.
Statements can become rumours good or bad depending who gets hold of the rumours.

It is when they are touted as fact that it is a problem.

There is only one truth. I don't buy into this current strangeness of 'alternative facts' or 'my truth'.

kiwi_expat

@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@kiwi_expat said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@Kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@Victor-Meldrew exactly...all still rumour getting reported as fact

It's not a rumour, it's from people who work at NZR.

In other words, unsubstantiated bollocks.

Seems you're upset about NZR exposed for lack of integrity & denial is your coping mechanism.

Crucial

@kiwi_expat said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@kiwi_expat said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@Kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@Victor-Meldrew exactly...all still rumour getting reported as fact

It's not a rumour, it's from people who work at NZR.

In other words, unsubstantiated bollocks.

Seems you're upset about NZR exposed for lack of integrity & denial is your coping mechanism.

I don't think you can make a call of 'lack of integrity' without backing it up with more than hearsay. That's only fair isn't it? Otherwise the lack of integrity lands on the accuser.

Kiwiwomble

@Crucial i would also say the term "exposed" has been used pretty loosely

Bones

I heard a rumour that expat is actually Alex Jones.

Oh no now he's exposed I hope he doesn't go into denial.

Victor Meldrew

@kiwi_expat said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@kiwi_expat said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@Kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@Victor-Meldrew exactly...all still rumour getting reported as fact

It's not a rumour, it's from people who work at NZR.

In other words, unsubstantiated bollocks.

Seems you're upset about NZR exposed for lack of integrity & denial is your coping mechanism.

Nah. I'm calling gossip and hearsay being presented as fact for what it is - unsubstantiated bollocks

Kirwan

@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@kiwi_expat said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@kiwi_expat said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@Kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@Victor-Meldrew exactly...all still rumour getting reported as fact

It's not a rumour, it's from people who work at NZR.

In other words, unsubstantiated bollocks.

Seems you're upset about NZR exposed for lack of integrity & denial is your coping mechanism.

Nah. I'm calling gossip and hearsay being presented as fact for what it is - unsubstantiated bollocks

Certainly in the right thread then.

Machpants

@Kirwan said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@kiwi_expat said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@kiwi_expat said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@Kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@Victor-Meldrew exactly...all still rumour getting reported as fact

It's not a rumour, it's from people who work at NZR.

In other words, unsubstantiated bollocks.

Seems you're upset about NZR exposed for lack of integrity & denial is your coping mechanism.

Nah. I'm calling gossip and hearsay being presented as fact for what it is - unsubstantiated bollocks

Certainly in the right ~~thread~~ forum then.

Yup

Dan54

@Machpants said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@Kirwan said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@kiwi_expat said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@kiwi_expat said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@Kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@Victor-Meldrew exactly...all still rumour getting reported as fact

It's not a rumour, it's from people who work at NZR.

In other words, unsubstantiated bollocks.

Seems you're upset about NZR exposed for lack of integrity & denial is your coping mechanism.

Nah. I'm calling gossip and hearsay being presented as fact for what it is - unsubstantiated bollocks

Certainly in the

list item ANY ~~thread~~ forum then.

Yup

kiwi_expat

@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@kiwi_expat said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@kiwi_expat said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@Kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@Victor-Meldrew exactly...all still rumour getting reported as fact

It's not a rumour, it's from people who work at NZR.

In other words, unsubstantiated bollocks.

Seems you're upset about NZR exposed for lack of integrity & denial is your coping mechanism.

Nah. I'm calling gossip and hearsay being presented as fact for what it is - unsubstantiated bollocks

Let me present the facts to you again - I know about the situation from a player and some people that work at the rugby union, it was all go and set to be announced, the press releases were already written and photoshoots with Razors family already organized, then retracted the contract offer after SA match. But continue to live in denial if it provides some level of comfort for you.

Victor Meldrew

@kiwi_expat said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@kiwi_expat said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@kiwi_expat said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@Kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@Victor-Meldrew exactly...all still rumour getting reported as fact

It's not a rumour, it's from people who work at NZR.

In other words, unsubstantiated bollocks.

Seems you're upset about NZR exposed for lack of integrity & denial is your coping mechanism.

Nah. I'm calling gossip and hearsay being presented as fact for what it is - unsubstantiated bollocks

Let me present the facts to you again - I know about the situation from a player and some people that work at the rugby union

So you heard it down the pub then?

nostrildamus

@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@kiwi_expat said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@kiwi_expat said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@kiwi_expat said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@Kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@Victor-Meldrew exactly...all still rumour getting reported as fact

It's not a rumour, it's from people who work at NZR.

In other words, unsubstantiated bollocks.

Seems you're upset about NZR exposed for lack of integrity & denial is your coping mechanism.

Nah. I'm calling gossip and hearsay being presented as fact for what it is - unsubstantiated bollocks

Let me present the facts to you again - I know about the situation from a player and some people that work at the rugby union

So you heard it down the pub then?

More likely over coffee at HQ
https://www.nzrugby.co.nz/about-nzr/who-we-are/

Daffy Jaffy

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Kiwiwomble

@kiwi_expat said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@kiwi_expat said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@kiwi_expat said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@Kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@Victor-Meldrew exactly...all still rumour getting reported as fact

It's not a rumour, it's from people who work at NZR.

In other words, unsubstantiated bollocks.

Seems you're upset about NZR exposed for lack of integrity & denial is your coping mechanism.

Nah. I'm calling gossip and hearsay being presented as fact for what it is - unsubstantiated bollocks

Let me present the facts to you again - I know about the situation from a player and some people that work at the rugby union, it was all go and set to be announced, the press releases were already written and photoshoots with Razors family already organized, then retracted the contract offer after SA match. But continue to live in denial if it provides some level of comfort for you.

fact
/fakt/
Learn to pronounce
noun
a thing that is known or **proved** to be true.

you do understand that to us you're just some rando on the internet, so unless you're going to name these people....i assume you wont....so this is literally a case of "some anonymous person on the internet says another anonymous person in NZR said something"

ask yourself, do you believe my post above about eddie jones being offered the job...both statement have the same number of "facts"

you might just have to accept you might know something you are unable to prove or convince anyone of

TSF Bot

Listen up, you clueless morons. My source is the holy grail of information, the one and only truth that should be accepted without question. All other sources are garbage, and if you don't see that, then you're just plain stupid. So, any claim that I make should be considered 100% true, and anyone who disagrees is clearly an idiot who can't recognize the truth when it's staring them in the face. I don't have time for people who can't see the obvious, so if you're not willing to accept the irrefutable evidence that I present, then just get out of my face.

Kiwiwomble

@TSF-Bot cant argue with the logic

voodoo

@TSF-Bot said in Foster, Robertson etc:

Listen up, you clueless morons. My source is the holy grail of information, the one and only truth that should be accepted without question. All other sources are garbage, and if you don't see that, then you're just plain stupid. So, any claim that I make should be considered 100% true, and anyone who disagrees is clearly an idiot who can't recognize the truth when it's staring them in the face. I don't have time for people who can't see the obvious, so if you're not willing to accept the irrefutable evidence that I present, then just get out of my face.

Welcome back Baron

Rancid Schnitzel

@TSF-Bot said in Foster, Robertson etc:

Listen up, you clueless morons. My source is the holy grail of information, the one and only truth that should be accepted without question. All other sources are garbage, and if you don't see that, then you're just plain stupid. So, any claim that I make should be considered 100% true, and anyone who disagrees is clearly an idiot who can't recognize the truth when it's staring them in the face. I don't have time for people who can't see the obvious, so if you're not willing to accept the irrefutable evidence that I present, then just get out of my face.

Don't be facitious. I know the camera man and he was literally on the way to the family photoshoot.

Crucial

@kiwi_expat said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@kiwi_expat said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@kiwi_expat said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@Kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson etc:

@Victor-Meldrew exactly...all still rumour getting reported as fact

It's not a rumour, it's from people who work at NZR.

In other words, unsubstantiated bollocks.

Seems you're upset about NZR exposed for lack of integrity & denial is your coping mechanism.

Nah. I'm calling gossip and hearsay being presented as fact for what it is - unsubstantiated bollocks

Let me present the facts to you again - I know about the situation from a player and some people that work at the rugby union, it was all go and set to be announced, the press releases were already written and photoshoots with Razors family already organized, then retracted the contract offer after SA match. But continue to live in denial if it provides some level of comfort for you.

All of that also perfectly fits in with the scenario that he was lined up, asked, he agreed he would do it but nothing had been signed off. What none of this tells us is the reason why it wasn't signed off. Was there a proviso that Foster had been one last game to arrest the slide? We don't know. Knowing the photographer, the NZRU staff etc doesn't bring that knowledge.
Newspapers write and update obituaries all the time. Doesn't make the subject dead

The Silver Fern

Foster, Robertson etc