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  • G george33

    @Chris yip it's Schmidt don't usually talk much but think Leon is heading away

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    @george33 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

    @Chris yip it's Schmidt don't usually talk much but think Leon is heading away

    Thanks Mate that makes sense.

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    • G george33

      @Chris yip it's Schmidt don't usually talk much but think Leon is heading away

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      @george33 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

      @Chris yip it's Schmidt don't usually talk much but think Leon is heading away

      Either way, after five years, it could be time to go up here or go overseas.

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        I'm wary of Rangi getting such a free ride. I'm not convinced that the better version of the Blues is attributable to his coaching as much as a better organisation. Blues always had the players but the coaches didn't always have the right organisation backing them.
        I know little of his areas of expertise (he uses others for forwards and defence).

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        • CrucialC Crucial

          I'm wary of Rangi getting such a free ride. I'm not convinced that the better version of the Blues is attributable to his coaching as much as a better organisation. Blues always had the players but the coaches didn't always have the right organisation backing them.
          I know little of his areas of expertise (he uses others for forwards and defence).

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          @Crucial Rennie b blues next season

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          • G george33

            @Crucial Rennie b blues next season

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            @george33 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

            @Crucial Rennie b blues next season

            If true that could put the Rennie/ Coventry team back together.

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            • CrucialC Crucial

              @george33 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

              @Crucial Rennie b blues next season

              If true that could put the Rennie/ Coventry team back together.

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              @Crucial agree

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              • G george33

                @Crucial agree

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                @george33 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                @Crucial agree

                Schmidt and Rennie at the blues ?

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                • CrucialC Crucial

                  I'm wary of Rangi getting such a free ride. I'm not convinced that the better version of the Blues is attributable to his coaching as much as a better organisation. Blues always had the players but the coaches didn't always have the right organisation backing them.
                  I know little of his areas of expertise (he uses others for forwards and defence).

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                  @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                  I'm wary of Rangi getting such a free ride. I'm not convinced that the better version of the Blues is attributable to his coaching as much as a better organisation. Blues always had the players but the coaches didn't always have the right organisation backing them.
                  I know little of his areas of expertise (he uses others for forwards and defence).

                  Yeah I'm yet to be convinced. Maybe he'll be a better AC than a HC... 😉

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                    #5352

                    Japan's current defense coach John Mitchell is said to be taking over Japan in 2024, so if Joseph gets the All Black job - do you think he'll retain McLeod for the defense role?

                    Plumtree was Joseph's defense coach for Japan 2017-2018, between 2019-2021 it was Scott Hansen (who is now Razor's proposed All Blacks defense coach), any guesses?

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                    • ChrisC Chris

                      @george33 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                      @Crucial agree

                      Schmidt and Rennie at the blues ?

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                      @Chris Rennie yes

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                      • G george33

                        @Chris Rennie yes

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                        @george33 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                        @Chris Rennie yes

                        @george33 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                        @Chris Rennie yes

                        So you are saying Schmidt has been told he is the new AB coach ?

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                        • CrucialC Crucial

                          Apologies for not writing in crayon.

                          Point was that I like the idea of Brown.
                          We need to be innovative to unlock defences at test level and that’s a special area of his.
                          I don’t see similar innovation in unlocking defences from Holland or the Crusaders.

                          Join all the points together and it’s fairly clear what I was getting at.

                          Then I get accused of declaring that Razor isn’t innovative.

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                          @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                          Apologies for not writing in crayon.

                          We need to be innovative to unlock defences at test level and that’s a special area of his.
                          I don’t see similar innovation in unlocking defences from Holland or the Crusaders.

                          Jason Holland isn't a great head coach. But he has proven in the past to be a very competent attack coach. Every now and then you can see the Hurricanes come up with some very innovative attacking plays from set piece. As long as he is kept away from selection, he should be good.

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                          • ChrisC Chris

                            @george33 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                            @Chris Rennie yes

                            @george33 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                            @Chris Rennie yes

                            So you are saying Schmidt has been told he is the new AB coach ?

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                            @Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                            @george33 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                            @Chris Rennie yes

                            @george33 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                            @Chris Rennie yes

                            So you are saying Schmidt has been told he is the new AB coach ?

                            I don’t think so but it is hard to tell sometimes with one word posts.

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                            • CrucialC Crucial

                              @Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                              @george33 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                              @Chris Rennie yes

                              @george33 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                              @Chris Rennie yes

                              So you are saying Schmidt has been told he is the new AB coach ?

                              I don’t think so but it is hard to tell sometimes with one word posts.

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                              @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                              @Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                              @george33 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                              @Chris Rennie yes

                              @george33 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                              @Chris Rennie yes

                              So you are saying Schmidt has been told he is the new AB coach ?

                              I don’t think so but it is hard to tell sometimes with one word posts.

                              Yep I am totally confused now.

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                              • ChrisC Chris

                                @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                @Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                @george33 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                @Chris Rennie yes

                                @george33 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                @Chris Rennie yes

                                So you are saying Schmidt has been told he is the new AB coach ?

                                I don’t think so but it is hard to tell sometimes with one word posts.

                                Yep I am totally confused now.

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                                @Chris and me...although TBF, in this thread who the fuck knows what's going on...we may as well be NZR HQ!

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                                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                  @Chris and me...although TBF, in this thread who the fuck knows what's going on...we may as well be NZR HQ!

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                                  @taniwharugby said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                  @Chris and me...although TBF, in this thread who the fuck knows what's going on...we may as well be NZR HQ!

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                                  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                    @taniwharugby said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                    @Chris and me...although TBF, in this thread who the fuck knows what's going on...we may as well be NZR HQ!

                                    newspaper (1).jpg

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                                    @Victor-Meldrew but it's only Thursday in Wales? Who is Robinson? But seriously, I hope Joe Schmidt puts his name forward.

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                                      @Victor-Meldrew but it's only Thursday in Wales? Who is Robinson? But seriously, I hope Joe Schmidt puts his name forward.

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                                      @ARHS said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                      @Victor-Meldrew but it's only Thursday in Wales? Who is Robinson? But seriously, I hope Joe Schmidt puts his name forward.

                                      Now I'm confused. I thought people were saying Schmidt doesn't want it?
                                      He does seem loyal to Foster.
                                      But why can't we know who the candidates are? Are they precious wallflowers? Is it commercially dangerous (to their current or potential roles) to know who is applying?

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                                      • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                        @ARHS said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                        @Victor-Meldrew but it's only Thursday in Wales? Who is Robinson? But seriously, I hope Joe Schmidt puts his name forward.

                                        Now I'm confused. I thought people were saying Schmidt doesn't want it?
                                        He does seem loyal to Foster.
                                        But why can't we know who the candidates are? Are they precious wallflowers? Is it commercially dangerous (to their current or potential roles) to know who is applying?

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                                        @nostrildamus said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                        But why can't we know who the candidates are? Are they precious wallflowers? Is it commercially dangerous (to their current or potential roles) to know who is applying?

                                        It's because of commercial sensitivity/confidentiality issues - just like every multi-million dollar business on planet Earth.

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                                        • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                          @nostrildamus said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                          But why can't we know who the candidates are? Are they precious wallflowers? Is it commercially dangerous (to their current or potential roles) to know who is applying?

                                          It's because of commercial sensitivity/confidentiality issues - just like every multi-million dollar business on planet Earth.

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                                          @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                          @nostrildamus said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                          But why can't we know who the candidates are? Are they precious wallflowers? Is it commercially dangerous (to their current or potential roles) to know who is applying?

                                          It's because of commercial sensitivity/confidentiality issues - just like every multi-million dollar business on planet Earth.

                                          Well at least we knew how many were applying in 2019/2020
                                          https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/sport/402673/nzr-only-interviewing-kiwi-coaches-for-all-blacks-job

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