Foster, Robertson etc
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The problem with Schmit's Irish teams was that their highly attritional game plan made it hard for them to back up 2 huge games. They'd effectively blown their load against France in 2015 and the preceeding 3 years had taken their toll in 2019. They had nothing left in the tank. Not conducive at all to tournament rugby. He wouldn't have to do that with the ABs and there are certainly elements from those Irish teams that would be nice to see in the ABs. Some forward muscle for starters!
But I don't believe for a second he'll be head coach. How can you sell that to the NZ rugby public? Unless they discover a decomposed corpse in his car or he badly injures himself breakdancing, it will be Razor.
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Foster, Robertson etc:
The problem with Schmit's Irish teams was that their highly attritional game plan made it hard for them to back up 2 huge games. They'd effectively blown their load against France in 2015 and the preceeding 3 years had taken their toll in 2019. They had nothing left in the tank. Not conducive at all to tournament rugby. He wouldn't have to do that with the ABs and there are certainly elements from those Irish teams that would be nice to see in the ABs. Some forward muscle for starters!
But I don't believe for a second he'll be head coach. How can you sell that to the NZ rugby public? Unless they discover a decomposed corpse in his car or he badly injures himself breakdancing, it will be Razor.
Ohh schnapp!
But the imagery is a little claustrophobic and worrying...
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@No-Quarter said in Foster, Robertson etc:
In all seriousness though I'd be really happy if Schmidt got the role, he's my preferred candidate.
@No-Quarter said in Foster, Robertson etc:
In all seriousness though I'd be really happy if Schmidt got the role, he's my preferred candidate.
Really? I'm a bit worried that Joe is a bit fixed in his ways. Short term he could be a real tonic but longer term he'd need an inventive backs coach wouldn't he?
Carlos Spencer maybe...And that brings us to who would Joe pick at 10?
@nostrildamus said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@No-Quarter said in Foster, Robertson etc:
In all seriousness though I'd be really happy if Schmidt got the role, he's my preferred candidate.
@No-Quarter said in Foster, Robertson etc:
In all seriousness though I'd be really happy if Schmidt got the role, he's my preferred candidate.
Really? I'm a bit worried that Joe is a bit fixed in his ways. Short term he could be a real tonic but longer term he'd need an inventive backs coach wouldn't he?
Carlos Spencer maybe...And that brings us to who would Joe pick at 10?
The way it is now (and it is very early) DMac has shown he can be the kind of steady influence that we've been missing at 10. I hope whoever is coaching come RWC23 time, DMac is in the frame
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@nostrildamus said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@No-Quarter said in Foster, Robertson etc:
In all seriousness though I'd be really happy if Schmidt got the role, he's my preferred candidate.
@No-Quarter said in Foster, Robertson etc:
In all seriousness though I'd be really happy if Schmidt got the role, he's my preferred candidate.
Really? I'm a bit worried that Joe is a bit fixed in his ways. Short term he could be a real tonic but longer term he'd need an inventive backs coach wouldn't he?
Carlos Spencer maybe...And that brings us to who would Joe pick at 10?
The way it is now (and it is very early) DMac has shown he can be the kind of steady influence that we've been missing at 10. I hope whoever is coaching come RWC23 time, DMac is in the frame
@canefan said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@nostrildamus said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@No-Quarter said in Foster, Robertson etc:
In all seriousness though I'd be really happy if Schmidt got the role, he's my preferred candidate.
@No-Quarter said in Foster, Robertson etc:
In all seriousness though I'd be really happy if Schmidt got the role, he's my preferred candidate.
Really? I'm a bit worried that Joe is a bit fixed in his ways. Short term he could be a real tonic but longer term he'd need an inventive backs coach wouldn't he?
Carlos Spencer maybe...And that brings us to who would Joe pick at 10?
The way it is now (and it is very early) DMac has shown he can be the kind of steady influence that we've been missing at 10. I hope whoever is coaching come RWC23 time, DMac is in the frame
From what I have seen DMac is the frontrunner.
Razor has already picked him for his team in the past not sure what Joseph and Brown would pick but I'd imagine they'd also consider DMac.
Can't believe BB is still such a static deliverer at 10. -
@booboo said in Foster, Robertson etc:
Fuck Schmidt.
Fuck him very much.
I met him in my teenage years and as a result care for him very little.
Am therefore way on Team Razor.
#nevermeetyourheroes
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@booboo said in Foster, Robertson etc:
Fuck Schmidt.
Fuck him very much.
I met him in my teenage years and as a result care for him very little.
Am therefore way on Team Razor.
#nevermeetyourheroes
He was a teenager at the time too...
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Fuck Schmidt.
Fuck him very much.
I met him in my teenage years and as a result care for him very little.
Am therefore way on Team Razor.
@booboo said in Foster, Robertson etc:
Fuck Schmidt.
Fuck him very much.
I met him in my teenage years and as a result care for him very little.
Am therefore way on Team Razor.
Personal dislike based on actually meeting the person is already far more informed than 98% of the posts in this thread so please, tell us more!
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Schmidt has a wealth of experience on the international scene, and is the main reason Ireland has gone from easy-beats to a serious rugby team in recent times. Whether Razor fans like it or not, that puts Schmidt in a really strong position to take the head coaching role. I'd be happy with either, but lean towards Schmidt given his experience up north.
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To Razor's credit, he took a declining Crusaders team under Blackadder and restored them to their glory days. Although that was in Super rugby so a level down, we could use that at AB level right now as well...
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@booboo said in Foster, Robertson etc:
Fuck Schmidt.
Fuck him very much.
I met him in my teenage years and as a result care for him very little.
Am therefore way on Team Razor.
Personal dislike based on actually meeting the person is already far more informed than 98% of the posts in this thread so please, tell us more!
@nostrildamus said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@booboo said in Foster, Robertson etc:
Fuck Schmidt.
Fuck him very much.
I met him in my teenage years and as a result care for him very little.
Am therefore way on Team Razor.
Personal dislike based on actually meeting the person is already far more informed than 98% of the posts in this thread so please, tell us more!
Have mentioned it before, and it’s not that bad really.
Attended Scout Jamboree back in the early 80s.
Combined our district and the neighbouring district, so "Patrols" were mixed across the groups.
Just scraped into the eligible age group so being the youngest I was the target of much hilarity. Not massively nasty hazing, but enough to be annoying.
Whilst not one of the worst perpetrators he was patrol leader, and could have knocked it on the head (and shouldn't have joined in).
Don't hold that big a grudge (overstated for effect) but I do hold it against him.
Edit: he was about 3 or 4 years ahead of me at high school.
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Fuck Schmidt.
Fuck him very much.
I met him in my teenage years and as a result care for him very little.
Am therefore way on Team Razor.
@booboo said in Foster, Robertson etc:
Fuck Schmidt.
Fuck him very much.
I met him in my teenage years and as a result care for him very little.
Am therefore way on Team Razor.
I've never been a fan after hearing stories about him from people in and out of their teenage years (but not his), then you add that to Tasesa Lavea over Carlos at the Blues and I'm very much team Razor too (despite the twin impediments of him being both a Cantab/Crusader and from BoP).
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@booboo said in Foster, Robertson etc:
Fuck Schmidt.
Fuck him very much.
I met him in my teenage years and as a result care for him very little.
Am therefore way on Team Razor.
I've never been a fan after hearing stories about him from people in and out of their teenage years (but not his), then you add that to Tasesa Lavea over Carlos at the Blues and I'm very much team Razor too (despite the twin impediments of him being both a Cantab/Crusader and from BoP).
@Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:
I've never been a fan after hearing stories about him from people in and out of their teenage years (but not his), then you add that to Tasesa Lavea over Carlos at the Blues and I'm very much team Razor too (despite the twin impediments of him being both a Cantab/Crusader and from BoP).
You could also join in on the side of Mount College (Robertson) v Tauranga Boys (Schmidt) if that makes it more palatable. We'll reverse the '89 Council amalgamations yet
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@Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:
I've never been a fan after hearing stories about him from people in and out of their teenage years (but not his), then you add that to Tasesa Lavea over Carlos at the Blues and I'm very much team Razor too (despite the twin impediments of him being both a Cantab/Crusader and from BoP).
You could also join in on the side of Mount College (Robertson) v Tauranga Boys (Schmidt) if that makes it more palatable. We'll reverse the '89 Council amalgamations yet
@Donsteppa said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:
I've never been a fan after hearing stories about him from people in and out of their teenage years (but not his), then you add that to Tasesa Lavea over Carlos at the Blues and I'm very much team Razor too (despite the twin impediments of him being both a Cantab/Crusader and from BoP).
You could also join in on the side of Mount College (Robertson) v Tauranga Boys (Schmidt) if that makes it more palatable. We'll reverse the '89 Council amalgamations yet
Oh speaking of schools Schmidt used to coach Napier Boys too which is another huge negative against him.
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@booboo said in Foster, Robertson etc:
Fuck Schmidt.
Fuck him very much.
I met him in my teenage years and as a result care for him very little.
Am therefore way on Team Razor.
I've never been a fan after hearing stories about him from people in and out of their teenage years (but not his), then you add that to Tasesa Lavea over Carlos at the Blues and I'm very much team Razor too (despite the twin impediments of him being both a Cantab/Crusader and from BoP).
@Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@booboo said in Foster, Robertson etc:
Fuck Schmidt.
Fuck him very much.
I met him in my teenage years and as a result care for him very little.
Am therefore way on Team Razor.
I've never been a fan after hearing stories about him from people in and out of their teenage years (but not his), then you add that to Tasesa Lavea over Carlos at the Blues and I'm very much team Razor too (despite the twin impediments of him being both a Cantab/Crusader and from BoP).
I'm both impressed that you managed to resurrect the spectre of Tasesa Lavea's Blues playing career and concerned that Bay of Canterbury could become a weird hybrid alterverse.
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PS Should the thread now be shelved and a new future AB coach thread rise from the ashes? Given there is no longer a Foster vs Robertson situation that is...
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@Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@booboo said in Foster, Robertson etc:
Fuck Schmidt.
Fuck him very much.
I met him in my teenage years and as a result care for him very little.
Am therefore way on Team Razor.
I've never been a fan after hearing stories about him from people in and out of their teenage years (but not his), then you add that to Tasesa Lavea over Carlos at the Blues and I'm very much team Razor too (despite the twin impediments of him being both a Cantab/Crusader and from BoP).
I'm both impressed that you managed to resurrect the spectre of Tasesa Lavea's Blues playing career and concerned that Bay of Canterbury could become a weird hybrid alterverse.
@nostrildamus said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@booboo said in Foster, Robertson etc:
Fuck Schmidt.
Fuck him very much.
I met him in my teenage years and as a result care for him very little.
Am therefore way on Team Razor.
I've never been a fan after hearing stories about him from people in and out of their teenage years (but not his), then you add that to Tasesa Lavea over Carlos at the Blues and I'm very much team Razor too (despite the twin impediments of him being both a Cantab/Crusader and from BoP).
I'm both impressed that you managed to resurrect the spectre of Tasesa Lavea's Blues playing career and concerned that Bay of Canterbury could become a weird hybrid alterverse.
TBF I probably bring up the Lavea over Carlos at least 3 or 4 times a year just to keep it fresh (and it should be noted I have nothing against Tasesa).
The Bay of Canterbury alterverse just sent a shiver down my spine.
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@nostrildamus said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@booboo said in Foster, Robertson etc:
Fuck Schmidt.
Fuck him very much.
I met him in my teenage years and as a result care for him very little.
Am therefore way on Team Razor.
I've never been a fan after hearing stories about him from people in and out of their teenage years (but not his), then you add that to Tasesa Lavea over Carlos at the Blues and I'm very much team Razor too (despite the twin impediments of him being both a Cantab/Crusader and from BoP).
I'm both impressed that you managed to resurrect the spectre of Tasesa Lavea's Blues playing career and concerned that Bay of Canterbury could become a weird hybrid alterverse.
TBF I probably bring up the Lavea over Carlos at least 3 or 4 times a year just to keep it fresh (and it should be noted I have nothing against Tasesa).
The Bay of Canterbury alterverse just sent a shiver down my spine.
@Nepia Best you jump into the Jamie Joseph camp, then - a good Ta$man man.
Leon can stay at the Blues, Dermody at the Highlanders, Andrew Goodman can come back to replace Razor. We just need another ex-Mako coach to take over the Canes, hmmm who can I think of....
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@Nepia Best you jump into the Jamie Joseph camp, then - a good Ta$man man.
Leon can stay at the Blues, Dermody at the Highlanders, Andrew Goodman can come back to replace Razor. We just need another ex-Mako coach to take over the Canes, hmmm who can I think of....
@Chris-B said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Nepia Best you jump into the Jamie Joseph camp, then - a good Ta$man man.
Leon can stay at the Blues, Dermody at the Highlanders, Andrew Goodman can come back to replace Razor. We just need another ex-Mako coach to take over the Canes, hmmm who can I think of....
I'll cut you for that photo bitch, if I ever have this misfortune to be forced to visit the Ta$man region.
But, TBH I don't care what the Canes do, if that crap franchise wants to rehire him for more years of mediocrity it doesn't worry me, just means more Magpies playing for franchises actually like.I've heard something about Joseph that firmly puts him in the Schmidt camp for me.
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@Nepia Best you jump into the Jamie Joseph camp, then - a good Ta$man man.
Leon can stay at the Blues, Dermody at the Highlanders, Andrew Goodman can come back to replace Razor. We just need another ex-Mako coach to take over the Canes, hmmm who can I think of....
@Chris-B said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Nepia Best you jump into the Jamie Joseph camp, then - a good Ta$man man.
Leon can stay at the Blues, Dermody at the Highlanders, Andrew Goodman can come back to replace Razor. We just need another ex-Mako coach to take over the Canes, hmmm who can I think of....
i really feel Hammett has unfinished business at the Crusaders, he has such a history with them surely Head Coach is the logical next step.....
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@Chris-B said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Nepia Best you jump into the Jamie Joseph camp, then - a good Ta$man man.
Leon can stay at the Blues, Dermody at the Highlanders, Andrew Goodman can come back to replace Razor. We just need another ex-Mako coach to take over the Canes, hmmm who can I think of....
I'll cut you for that photo bitch, if I ever have this misfortune to be forced to visit the Ta$man region.
But, TBH I don't care what the Canes do, if that crap franchise wants to rehire him for more years of mediocrity it doesn't worry me, just means more Magpies playing for franchises actually like.I've heard something about Joseph that firmly puts him in the Schmidt camp for me.
@Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Chris-B said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Nepia Best you jump into the Jamie Joseph camp, then - a good Ta$man man.
Leon can stay at the Blues, Dermody at the Highlanders, Andrew Goodman can come back to replace Razor. We just need another ex-Mako coach to take over the Canes, hmmm who can I think of....
I'll cut you for that photo bitch, if I ever have this misfortune to be forced to visit the Ta$man region.
But, TBH I don't care what the Canes do, if that crap franchise wants to rehire him for more years of mediocrity it doesn't worry me, just means more Magpies playing for franchises actually like.I've heard something about Joseph that firmly puts him in the Schmidt camp for me.
He was always such an abrasive character when playing. Is he the same as a coach??
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@Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Chris-B said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Nepia Best you jump into the Jamie Joseph camp, then - a good Ta$man man.
Leon can stay at the Blues, Dermody at the Highlanders, Andrew Goodman can come back to replace Razor. We just need another ex-Mako coach to take over the Canes, hmmm who can I think of....
I'll cut you for that photo bitch, if I ever have this misfortune to be forced to visit the Ta$man region.
But, TBH I don't care what the Canes do, if that crap franchise wants to rehire him for more years of mediocrity it doesn't worry me, just means more Magpies playing for franchises actually like.I've heard something about Joseph that firmly puts him in the Schmidt camp for me.
He was always such an abrasive character when playing. Is he the same as a coach??
@canefan i really want to know too, definitely comes across like he doesnt suffer fools...but also is hugely responsable for give the Highlanders a culture or at very least enabling some of the guys in the team to do it
