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    Rameka Poihipi as a midfielder

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    • GrooterG Grooter

      @Bovidae Sevu Reece was a bolter in 2019, wasn't even on a full super contract at the start of that year

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      @FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

      @Bovidae Sevu Reece was a bolter in 2019, wasn't even on a full super contract at the start of that year

      Yeah, Reece might be the closest in that squad, but he also started in 3 tests before the RWC squad was announced. Maybe the days of unexpectedly selecting an uncapped player for a RWC is over in the professional era.

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        @FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

        @Bovidae Sevu Reece was a bolter in 2019, wasn't even on a full super contract at the start of that year

        Yeah, Reece might be the closest in that squad, but he also started in 3 tests before the RWC squad was announced. Maybe the days of unexpectedly selecting an uncapped player for a RWC is over in the professional era.

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        @Bovidae Shaun Stevenson a certainty if Will Jordan is out, even if he is not he would still add some electrifying extra speed.

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          @Bovidae Sevu Reece was a bolter in 2019, wasn't even on a full super contract at the start of that year

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          @FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

          @Bovidae Sevu Reece was a bolter in 2019, wasn't even on a full super contract at the start of that year

          Big fucking asterisk with the bold.

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            @Bovidae Shaun Stevenson a certainty if Will Jordan is out, even if he is not he would still add some electrifying extra speed.

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            @SBW1 said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

            @Bovidae Shaun Stevenson a certainty if Will Jordan is out, even if he is not he would still add some electrifying extra speed.

            He's had a great start to the season. Him and DMac

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              Only seen him play a little bit, but if Peter Lakai can get some decent SR game time, he could be one to consider as a bolter in a month or two.

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                PPP ?

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                  @Bovidae Shaun Stevenson a certainty if Will Jordan is out, even if he is not he would still add some electrifying extra speed.

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                  @SBW1 said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                  @Bovidae Shaun Stevenson a certainty if Will Jordan is out, even if he is not he would still add some electrifying extra speed.

                  His boot is also an asset and needed if BB or RM are the pivots.

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                    PPP ?

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                    @cgrant Was awesome the year before last, hampered by injury. Hopefully he hasn't sustained anything too serious.

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                      PPP ?

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                      @cgrant said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                      PPP ?

                      Imagine the joy on the face of an opposition forward looking up and seeing he's running at Laulala, Moody and Parkinson. He'd probably run back again just to run past them twice.

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                        There's something badly wrong if Stevenson is not at least in an all blacks squad this year

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                        There's something badly wrong if Stevenson is not at least in an all blacks squad this year

                        Came in to post his name. The boy is confident.

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                          @FakatavaAllBlack Levi Aumua, real unit in the centres.

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                          @SBW1 said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                          @FakatavaAllBlack Levi Aumua, real unit in the centres.

                          Looking and Ireland and France , a few "lumps" would be welcome in the NZ squad.

                          Havili et al is not going to cut it.

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                              I think Stevenson and Roigard are already well in the mix. Some room in midfield for a 13 and for a 6 or 8. Don't think Aumua up to it though as lacks finesse skills imho. TUJ Sullivan or Poihipi maybe. Tom Robinson and MMT are both possible as is Lakai. Used to think Finau could explode into calculations too. Last bolter may be a young prop as I think Laulala Bower and Tuungafasi are not shoo ins. So Tamati Williams or Ollie Norris may get a chance as a big ball carrier. Numia may be too small.

                              I think a lot will depend on refereeing interpretations and law changes as to what options the coaches want to develop. If game speeds up then Roigard must be considered. If 8s get more running space off scrum then we need another bulldozer with legspeed. Maybe a 6 like Big Red can swap to 8 for some scrums? I do think a wrecking ball prop may be useful from tap penalties too.

                              Big search will be for a 10 with a reliably long clearing kick and accurate up and under. Unless Zarn plays 10 for blues that has to be BB RMo or DMac as only genuine contenders.

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                                For a dark horse bolter I'd be taking Ainsley in the squad. Clearly Laulala is done for the ABs, Ainsley is experienced, good scrummager and far more energetic around the park.

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                                  I think Stevenson and Roigard are already well in the mix. Some room in midfield for a 13 and for a 6 or 8. Don't think Aumua up to it though as lacks finesse skills imho. TUJ Sullivan or Poihipi maybe. Tom Robinson and MMT are both possible as is Lakai. Used to think Finau could explode into calculations too. Last bolter may be a young prop as I think Laulala Bower and Tuungafasi are not shoo ins. So Tamati Williams or Ollie Norris may get a chance as a big ball carrier. Numia may be too small.

                                  I think a lot will depend on refereeing interpretations and law changes as to what options the coaches want to develop. If game speeds up then Roigard must be considered. If 8s get more running space off scrum then we need another bulldozer with legspeed. Maybe a 6 like Big Red can swap to 8 for some scrums? I do think a wrecking ball prop may be useful from tap penalties too.

                                  Big search will be for a 10 with a reliably long clearing kick and accurate up and under. Unless Zarn plays 10 for blues that has to be BB RMo or DMac as only genuine contenders.

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                                  @ARHS said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                  I think Stevenson and Roigard are already well in the mix. Some room in midfield for a 13 and for a 6 or 8. Don't think Aumua up to it though as lacks finesse skills imho. TUJ Sullivan or Poihipi maybe. Tom Robinson and MMT are both possible as is Lakai. Used to think Finau could explode into calculations too. Last bolter may be a young prop as I think Laulala Bower and Tuungafasi are not shoo ins. So Tamati Williams or Ollie Norris may get a chance as a big ball carrier. Numia may be too small.

                                  I think a lot will depend on refereeing interpretations and law changes as to what options the coaches want to develop. If game speeds up then Roigard must be considered. If 8s get more running space off scrum then we need another bulldozer with legspeed. Maybe a 6 like Big Red can swap to 8 for some scrums? I do think a wrecking ball prop may be useful from tap penalties too.

                                  Big search will be for a 10 with a reliably long clearing kick and accurate up and under. Unless Zarn plays 10 for blues that has to be BB RMo or DMac as only genuine contenders.

                                  BB and Mo'unga have been kicking dreadfully for the AB's over the last few years. Id kill for a Dagg in the team.

                                  Jordie was that guy , but we need him at 12.

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                                    @ARHS said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                    I think Stevenson and Roigard are already well in the mix. Some room in midfield for a 13 and for a 6 or 8. Don't think Aumua up to it though as lacks finesse skills imho. TUJ Sullivan or Poihipi maybe. Tom Robinson and MMT are both possible as is Lakai. Used to think Finau could explode into calculations too. Last bolter may be a young prop as I think Laulala Bower and Tuungafasi are not shoo ins. So Tamati Williams or Ollie Norris may get a chance as a big ball carrier. Numia may be too small.

                                    I think a lot will depend on refereeing interpretations and law changes as to what options the coaches want to develop. If game speeds up then Roigard must be considered. If 8s get more running space off scrum then we need another bulldozer with legspeed. Maybe a 6 like Big Red can swap to 8 for some scrums? I do think a wrecking ball prop may be useful from tap penalties too.

                                    Big search will be for a 10 with a reliably long clearing kick and accurate up and under. Unless Zarn plays 10 for blues that has to be BB RMo or DMac as only genuine contenders.

                                    BB and Mo'unga have been kicking dreadfully for the AB's over the last few years. Id kill for a Dagg in the team.

                                    Jordie was that guy , but we need him at 12.

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                                      @cgrant said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                      PPP ?

                                      Imagine the joy on the face of an opposition forward looking up and seeing he's running at Laulala, Moody and Parkinson. He'd probably run back again just to run past them twice.

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                                      @Bones said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                      @cgrant said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                      PPP ?

                                      Imagine the joy on the face of an opposition forward looking up and seeing he's running at Laulala, Moody and Parkinson. He'd probably run back again just to run past them twice.

                                      Yeah, concrete feet for the first two, but PPP did not look that slow in the first three rounds. He is a massive guy who could bring something different in the second row, particularly in case of injuries. I suggested his name with a question mark because I am not yet sold on him. But I am not sold on Tuipolutu and Vai'i either as they would struggle against France, SA or Ireland.

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                                        @ARHS said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                        I think Stevenson and Roigard are already well in the mix. Some room in midfield for a 13 and for a 6 or 8. Don't think Aumua up to it though as lacks finesse skills imho. TUJ Sullivan or Poihipi maybe. Tom Robinson and MMT are both possible as is Lakai. Used to think Finau could explode into calculations too. Last bolter may be a young prop as I think Laulala Bower and Tuungafasi are not shoo ins. So Tamati Williams or Ollie Norris may get a chance as a big ball carrier. Numia may be too small.

                                        I think a lot will depend on refereeing interpretations and law changes as to what options the coaches want to develop. If game speeds up then Roigard must be considered. If 8s get more running space off scrum then we need another bulldozer with legspeed. Maybe a 6 like Big Red can swap to 8 for some scrums? I do think a wrecking ball prop may be useful from tap penalties too.

                                        Big search will be for a 10 with a reliably long clearing kick and accurate up and under. Unless Zarn plays 10 for blues that has to be BB RMo or DMac as only genuine contenders.

                                        BB and Mo'unga have been kicking dreadfully for the AB's over the last few years. Id kill for a Dagg in the team.

                                        Jordie was that guy , but we need him at 12.

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                                        @Steve said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                        Jordie was that guy , but we need him at 12.

                                        he should have been - but really struggld to kick well from the back. It's annoying; his kicking shows glimpses, but hasn't been consistent at Test level

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                                          @Steve said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                          Jordie was that guy , but we need him at 12.

                                          he should have been - but really struggld to kick well from the back. It's annoying; his kicking shows glimpses, but hasn't been consistent at Test level

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                                          @nzzp said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                          @Steve said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                          Jordie was that guy , but we need him at 12.

                                          he should have been - but really struggld to kick well from the back. It's annoying; his kicking shows glimpses, but hasn't been consistent at Test level

                                          Agreed. His kicking and running from the back had some issues.

                                          Not that he was bad at 15 but he's much more suited to 12.

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