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    PPP ?

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    @cgrant Was awesome the year before last, hampered by injury. Hopefully he hasn't sustained anything too serious.

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      PPP ?

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      @cgrant said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

      PPP ?

      Imagine the joy on the face of an opposition forward looking up and seeing he's running at Laulala, Moody and Parkinson. He'd probably run back again just to run past them twice.

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        There's something badly wrong if Stevenson is not at least in an all blacks squad this year

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        There's something badly wrong if Stevenson is not at least in an all blacks squad this year

        Came in to post his name. The boy is confident.

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          @FakatavaAllBlack Levi Aumua, real unit in the centres.

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          @FakatavaAllBlack Levi Aumua, real unit in the centres.

          Looking and Ireland and France , a few "lumps" would be welcome in the NZ squad.

          Havili et al is not going to cut it.

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              I think Stevenson and Roigard are already well in the mix. Some room in midfield for a 13 and for a 6 or 8. Don't think Aumua up to it though as lacks finesse skills imho. TUJ Sullivan or Poihipi maybe. Tom Robinson and MMT are both possible as is Lakai. Used to think Finau could explode into calculations too. Last bolter may be a young prop as I think Laulala Bower and Tuungafasi are not shoo ins. So Tamati Williams or Ollie Norris may get a chance as a big ball carrier. Numia may be too small.

              I think a lot will depend on refereeing interpretations and law changes as to what options the coaches want to develop. If game speeds up then Roigard must be considered. If 8s get more running space off scrum then we need another bulldozer with legspeed. Maybe a 6 like Big Red can swap to 8 for some scrums? I do think a wrecking ball prop may be useful from tap penalties too.

              Big search will be for a 10 with a reliably long clearing kick and accurate up and under. Unless Zarn plays 10 for blues that has to be BB RMo or DMac as only genuine contenders.

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                For a dark horse bolter I'd be taking Ainsley in the squad. Clearly Laulala is done for the ABs, Ainsley is experienced, good scrummager and far more energetic around the park.

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                  I think Stevenson and Roigard are already well in the mix. Some room in midfield for a 13 and for a 6 or 8. Don't think Aumua up to it though as lacks finesse skills imho. TUJ Sullivan or Poihipi maybe. Tom Robinson and MMT are both possible as is Lakai. Used to think Finau could explode into calculations too. Last bolter may be a young prop as I think Laulala Bower and Tuungafasi are not shoo ins. So Tamati Williams or Ollie Norris may get a chance as a big ball carrier. Numia may be too small.

                  I think a lot will depend on refereeing interpretations and law changes as to what options the coaches want to develop. If game speeds up then Roigard must be considered. If 8s get more running space off scrum then we need another bulldozer with legspeed. Maybe a 6 like Big Red can swap to 8 for some scrums? I do think a wrecking ball prop may be useful from tap penalties too.

                  Big search will be for a 10 with a reliably long clearing kick and accurate up and under. Unless Zarn plays 10 for blues that has to be BB RMo or DMac as only genuine contenders.

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                  @ARHS said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                  I think Stevenson and Roigard are already well in the mix. Some room in midfield for a 13 and for a 6 or 8. Don't think Aumua up to it though as lacks finesse skills imho. TUJ Sullivan or Poihipi maybe. Tom Robinson and MMT are both possible as is Lakai. Used to think Finau could explode into calculations too. Last bolter may be a young prop as I think Laulala Bower and Tuungafasi are not shoo ins. So Tamati Williams or Ollie Norris may get a chance as a big ball carrier. Numia may be too small.

                  I think a lot will depend on refereeing interpretations and law changes as to what options the coaches want to develop. If game speeds up then Roigard must be considered. If 8s get more running space off scrum then we need another bulldozer with legspeed. Maybe a 6 like Big Red can swap to 8 for some scrums? I do think a wrecking ball prop may be useful from tap penalties too.

                  Big search will be for a 10 with a reliably long clearing kick and accurate up and under. Unless Zarn plays 10 for blues that has to be BB RMo or DMac as only genuine contenders.

                  BB and Mo'unga have been kicking dreadfully for the AB's over the last few years. Id kill for a Dagg in the team.

                  Jordie was that guy , but we need him at 12.

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                    @ARHS said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                    I think Stevenson and Roigard are already well in the mix. Some room in midfield for a 13 and for a 6 or 8. Don't think Aumua up to it though as lacks finesse skills imho. TUJ Sullivan or Poihipi maybe. Tom Robinson and MMT are both possible as is Lakai. Used to think Finau could explode into calculations too. Last bolter may be a young prop as I think Laulala Bower and Tuungafasi are not shoo ins. So Tamati Williams or Ollie Norris may get a chance as a big ball carrier. Numia may be too small.

                    I think a lot will depend on refereeing interpretations and law changes as to what options the coaches want to develop. If game speeds up then Roigard must be considered. If 8s get more running space off scrum then we need another bulldozer with legspeed. Maybe a 6 like Big Red can swap to 8 for some scrums? I do think a wrecking ball prop may be useful from tap penalties too.

                    Big search will be for a 10 with a reliably long clearing kick and accurate up and under. Unless Zarn plays 10 for blues that has to be BB RMo or DMac as only genuine contenders.

                    BB and Mo'unga have been kicking dreadfully for the AB's over the last few years. Id kill for a Dagg in the team.

                    Jordie was that guy , but we need him at 12.

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                      @cgrant said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                      PPP ?

                      Imagine the joy on the face of an opposition forward looking up and seeing he's running at Laulala, Moody and Parkinson. He'd probably run back again just to run past them twice.

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                      @Bones said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                      @cgrant said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                      PPP ?

                      Imagine the joy on the face of an opposition forward looking up and seeing he's running at Laulala, Moody and Parkinson. He'd probably run back again just to run past them twice.

                      Yeah, concrete feet for the first two, but PPP did not look that slow in the first three rounds. He is a massive guy who could bring something different in the second row, particularly in case of injuries. I suggested his name with a question mark because I am not yet sold on him. But I am not sold on Tuipolutu and Vai'i either as they would struggle against France, SA or Ireland.

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                        @ARHS said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                        I think Stevenson and Roigard are already well in the mix. Some room in midfield for a 13 and for a 6 or 8. Don't think Aumua up to it though as lacks finesse skills imho. TUJ Sullivan or Poihipi maybe. Tom Robinson and MMT are both possible as is Lakai. Used to think Finau could explode into calculations too. Last bolter may be a young prop as I think Laulala Bower and Tuungafasi are not shoo ins. So Tamati Williams or Ollie Norris may get a chance as a big ball carrier. Numia may be too small.

                        I think a lot will depend on refereeing interpretations and law changes as to what options the coaches want to develop. If game speeds up then Roigard must be considered. If 8s get more running space off scrum then we need another bulldozer with legspeed. Maybe a 6 like Big Red can swap to 8 for some scrums? I do think a wrecking ball prop may be useful from tap penalties too.

                        Big search will be for a 10 with a reliably long clearing kick and accurate up and under. Unless Zarn plays 10 for blues that has to be BB RMo or DMac as only genuine contenders.

                        BB and Mo'unga have been kicking dreadfully for the AB's over the last few years. Id kill for a Dagg in the team.

                        Jordie was that guy , but we need him at 12.

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                        @Steve said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                        Jordie was that guy , but we need him at 12.

                        he should have been - but really struggld to kick well from the back. It's annoying; his kicking shows glimpses, but hasn't been consistent at Test level

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                          @Steve said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                          Jordie was that guy , but we need him at 12.

                          he should have been - but really struggld to kick well from the back. It's annoying; his kicking shows glimpses, but hasn't been consistent at Test level

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                          @nzzp said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                          @Steve said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                          Jordie was that guy , but we need him at 12.

                          he should have been - but really struggld to kick well from the back. It's annoying; his kicking shows glimpses, but hasn't been consistent at Test level

                          Agreed. His kicking and running from the back had some issues.

                          Not that he was bad at 15 but he's much more suited to 12.

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                            @Steve said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                            Jordie was that guy , but we need him at 12.

                            he should have been - but really struggld to kick well from the back. It's annoying; his kicking shows glimpses, but hasn't been consistent at Test level

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                            @nzzp I thought there were 1 or 2 games his big boot was useful last year but then it seemed to start misfiring. .

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                              @Steve said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                              @ARHS said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                              I think Stevenson and Roigard are already well in the mix. Some room in midfield for a 13 and for a 6 or 8. Don't think Aumua up to it though as lacks finesse skills imho. TUJ Sullivan or Poihipi maybe. Tom Robinson and MMT are both possible as is Lakai. Used to think Finau could explode into calculations too. Last bolter may be a young prop as I think Laulala Bower and Tuungafasi are not shoo ins. So Tamati Williams or Ollie Norris may get a chance as a big ball carrier. Numia may be too small.

                              I think a lot will depend on refereeing interpretations and law changes as to what options the coaches want to develop. If game speeds up then Roigard must be considered. If 8s get more running space off scrum then we need another bulldozer with legspeed. Maybe a 6 like Big Red can swap to 8 for some scrums? I do think a wrecking ball prop may be useful from tap penalties too.

                              Big search will be for a 10 with a reliably long clearing kick and accurate up and under. Unless Zarn plays 10 for blues that has to be BB RMo or DMac as only genuine contenders.

                              BB and Mo'unga have been kicking dreadfully for the AB's over the last few years. Id kill for a Dagg in the team.

                              Jordie was that guy , but we need him at 12.

                              I'll never get sick of reading stuff like this!

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                                I think Stevenson and Roigard are already well in the mix. Some room in midfield for a 13 and for a 6 or 8. Don't think Aumua up to it though as lacks finesse skills imho. TUJ Sullivan or Poihipi maybe. Tom Robinson and MMT are both possible as is Lakai. Used to think Finau could explode into calculations too. Last bolter may be a young prop as I think Laulala Bower and Tuungafasi are not shoo ins. So Tamati Williams or Ollie Norris may get a chance as a big ball carrier. Numia may be too small.

                                I think a lot will depend on refereeing interpretations and law changes as to what options the coaches want to develop. If game speeds up then Roigard must be considered. If 8s get more running space off scrum then we need another bulldozer with legspeed. Maybe a 6 like Big Red can swap to 8 for some scrums? I do think a wrecking ball prop may be useful from tap penalties too.

                                Big search will be for a 10 with a reliably long clearing kick and accurate up and under. Unless Zarn plays 10 for blues that has to be BB RMo or DMac as only genuine contenders.

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                                @ARHS said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                I think Stevenson and Roigard are already well in the mix. Some room in midfield for a 13 and for a 6 or 8. Don't think Aumua up to it though as lacks finesse skills imho. TUJ Sullivan or Poihipi maybe. Tom Robinson and MMT are both possible as is Lakai. Used to think Finau could explode into calculations too. Last bolter may be a young prop as I think Laulala Bower and Tuungafasi are not shoo ins. So Tamati Williams or Ollie Norris may get a chance as a big ball carrier. Numia may be too small.

                                I think a lot will depend on refereeing interpretations and law changes as to what options the coaches want to develop. If game speeds up then Roigard must be considered. If 8s get more running space off scrum then we need another bulldozer with legspeed. Maybe a 6 like Big Red can swap to 8 for some scrums? I do think a wrecking ball prop may be useful from tap penalties too.

                                Big search will be for a 10 with a reliably long clearing kick and accurate up and under. Unless Zarn plays 10 for blues that has to be BB RMo or DMac as only genuine contenders.

                                On the propping side I want to seea work horse who is not afraid to get stuck in at the breakdown. The Northern teams are going to dominate up front, Williams and Norris are not grafters at the breakdown and nor is de Groot. Someone like Hodgman is more suited to the faster game and gives you some mongrel.
                                Another grafted is Numia from the Canes the kid is worth a look.

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                                  @ARHS said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                  I think Stevenson and Roigard are already well in the mix. Some room in midfield for a 13 and for a 6 or 8. Don't think Aumua up to it though as lacks finesse skills imho. TUJ Sullivan or Poihipi maybe. Tom Robinson and MMT are both possible as is Lakai. Used to think Finau could explode into calculations too. Last bolter may be a young prop as I think Laulala Bower and Tuungafasi are not shoo ins. So Tamati Williams or Ollie Norris may get a chance as a big ball carrier. Numia may be too small.

                                  I think a lot will depend on refereeing interpretations and law changes as to what options the coaches want to develop. If game speeds up then Roigard must be considered. If 8s get more running space off scrum then we need another bulldozer with legspeed. Maybe a 6 like Big Red can swap to 8 for some scrums? I do think a wrecking ball prop may be useful from tap penalties too.

                                  Big search will be for a 10 with a reliably long clearing kick and accurate up and under. Unless Zarn plays 10 for blues that has to be BB RMo or DMac as only genuine contenders.

                                  On the propping side I want to seea work horse who is not afraid to get stuck in at the breakdown. The Northern teams are going to dominate up front, Williams and Norris are not grafters at the breakdown and nor is de Groot. Someone like Hodgman is more suited to the faster game and gives you some mongrel.
                                  Another grafted is Numia from the Canes the kid is worth a look.

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                                  @number9 said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                  Hodgman

                                  Pick up your game! It took until your third sentence to bring his name up.

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                                    @Steve said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                    Jordie was that guy , but we need him at 12.

                                    he should have been - but really struggld to kick well from the back. It's annoying; his kicking shows glimpses, but hasn't been consistent at Test level

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                                    @nzzp said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                    @Steve said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                    Jordie was that guy , but we need him at 12.

                                    he should have been - but really struggld to kick well from the back. It's annoying; his kicking shows glimpses, but hasn't been consistent at Test level

                                    true, but no one else seems to be able to bang a ball.

                                    Zarn Sullivan but he seems to have run out of time to get a gig.

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                                      @number9 said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                      Hodgman

                                      Pick up your game! It took until your third sentence to bring his name up.

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                                      @Bones said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                      @number9 said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                      Hodgman

                                      Pick up your game! It took until your third sentence to bring his name up.

                                      Our forwards are playing the usual one dimensional bullshit. Get a grafter in there and stop pandering to the Crusader Boys. Watch the France v England massacre and the way the Irish are playing. They are winning at the breakdown with attitude and not just relying on their loosies. Treat the thread for what it is and stop being a piston wristed gibbon. Hodgman should get a recall and Numia is a definite bolter. Tamati Williams is unfit and lazy around the paddock and the usual Moli is always injured. And de Groot on his best day only lasts a half.

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                                        @Bones said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                        @number9 said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                        Hodgman

                                        Pick up your game! It took until your third sentence to bring his name up.

                                        Our forwards are playing the usual one dimensional bullshit. Get a grafter in there and stop pandering to the Crusader Boys. Watch the France v England massacre and the way the Irish are playing. They are winning at the breakdown with attitude and not just relying on their loosies. Treat the thread for what it is and stop being a piston wristed gibbon. Hodgman should get a recall and Numia is a definite bolter. Tamati Williams is unfit and lazy around the paddock and the usual Moli is always injured. And de Groot on his best day only lasts a half.

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                                        @number9 well the thread is about bolters I thought, not discarded players who aren't exactly screaming out for selection.

                                        Numia would definitely be a bolter, alas he'd be the smallest front rower in international rugby by a fair margin I imagine. You're not going to fight the giant Irish props by bringing in a midget who can throw a well timed pass.

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                                          @nzzp said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                          @Steve said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                          Jordie was that guy , but we need him at 12.

                                          he should have been - but really struggld to kick well from the back. It's annoying; his kicking shows glimpses, but hasn't been consistent at Test level

                                          true, but no one else seems to be able to bang a ball.

                                          Zarn Sullivan but he seems to have run out of time to get a gig.

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                                          @Steve said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                          @nzzp said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                          @Steve said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                          Jordie was that guy , but we need him at 12.

                                          he should have been - but really struggld to kick well from the back. It's annoying; his kicking shows glimpses, but hasn't been consistent at Test level

                                          true, but no one else seems to be able to bang a ball.

                                          Zarn Sullivan but he seems to have run out of time to get a gig.

                                          Stevenson has a big boot. Another thing in his favour.

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