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It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.

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  • MajorPomM Away
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    Pretty excited to watch the Cantab mafia go crazy nuts when he wins the RC st his first attempt …. As I point out to them that Foster never once failed in this objective.

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    • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

      @Chris-B said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

      Someone might have already posted this - interesting to see Conrad on the panel.

      The panel of NZ Rugby CEO Mark Robinson, board members Dame Farah Palmer and Bailey Mackey, NZR head of high performance Mike Anthony, former All Black Conrad Smith and Eddie Kohlhase, of High Performance Sport NZ and a former Black Sox softball coach.

      yeah, wonder why? isn't he a lawyer? so maybe the combo of lawyer/player? but you might have thought former captains?

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      @Kiwiwomble said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

      @Chris-B said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

      Someone might have already posted this - interesting to see Conrad on the panel.

      The panel of NZ Rugby CEO Mark Robinson, board members Dame Farah Palmer and Bailey Mackey, NZR head of high performance Mike Anthony, former All Black Conrad Smith and Eddie Kohlhase, of High Performance Sport NZ and a former Black Sox softball coach.

      yeah, wonder why? isn't he a lawyer? so maybe the combo of lawyer/player? but you might have thought former captains?

      Might be indicative that neither Hammer nor any other recent Canes coaches were interviewing. 🙂

      KRead has been in the media saying appoint Razor and he and McCaw are Crusaders through and through. I don't think they'd want that. Rueben Thorne as well.

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      • Chris B.C Chris B.

        @Kiwiwomble said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

        @Chris-B said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

        Someone might have already posted this - interesting to see Conrad on the panel.

        The panel of NZ Rugby CEO Mark Robinson, board members Dame Farah Palmer and Bailey Mackey, NZR head of high performance Mike Anthony, former All Black Conrad Smith and Eddie Kohlhase, of High Performance Sport NZ and a former Black Sox softball coach.

        yeah, wonder why? isn't he a lawyer? so maybe the combo of lawyer/player? but you might have thought former captains?

        Might be indicative that neither Hammer nor any other recent Canes coaches were interviewing. 🙂

        KRead has been in the media saying appoint Razor and he and McCaw are Crusaders through and through. I don't think they'd want that. Rueben Thorne as well.

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        @Chris-B good points

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        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

          Wracking my brain trying to think of another professional sports coach who has the job for a full season knowing he's not wanted?

          Very strange fucking time

          I actually don't know how I feel about it to be honest.

          I want to believe everyone is a stone cold professional and just gets on with the job. But that's fantasy.
          If Foster isn't their guy he shouldn't be there now.

          It's all ridiculous really.

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          @mariner4life said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

          Wracking my brain trying to think of another professional sports coach who has the job for a full season knowing he's not wanted?

          Very strange fucking time

          I actually don't know how I feel about it to be honest.

          I want to believe everyone is a stone cold professional and just gets on with the job. But that's fantasy.
          If Foster isn't their guy he shouldn't be there now.

          It's all ridiculous really.

          I think Malthouse to Buckley at Collingwood was similar.
          It was a bit ugly from memory.

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          • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

            @mariner4life said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

            Wracking my brain trying to think of another professional sports coach who has the job for a full season knowing he's not wanted?

            Very strange fucking time

            I actually don't know how I feel about it to be honest.

            I want to believe everyone is a stone cold professional and just gets on with the job. But that's fantasy.
            If Foster isn't their guy he shouldn't be there now.

            It's all ridiculous really.

            I think Malthouse to Buckley at Collingwood was similar.
            It was a bit ugly from memory.

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            @kiwiinmelb said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

            @mariner4life said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

            Wracking my brain trying to think of another professional sports coach who has the job for a full season knowing he's not wanted?

            Very strange fucking time

            I actually don't know how I feel about it to be honest.

            I want to believe everyone is a stone cold professional and just gets on with the job. But that's fantasy.
            If Foster isn't their guy he shouldn't be there now.

            It's all ridiculous really.

            I think Malthouse to Buckley at Collingwood was similar.
            It was a bit ugly from memory.

            oh yeah that's a good one. was very ugly.

            Imagine if the NZRU stuck Razor in as an assistant now to get him acclimatised?

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            • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

              @mariner4life said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

              Wracking my brain trying to think of another professional sports coach who has the job for a full season knowing he's not wanted?

              Very strange fucking time

              I actually don't know how I feel about it to be honest.

              I want to believe everyone is a stone cold professional and just gets on with the job. But that's fantasy.
              If Foster isn't their guy he shouldn't be there now.

              It's all ridiculous really.

              I think Malthouse to Buckley at Collingwood was similar.
              It was a bit ugly from memory.

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              @kiwiinmelb said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

              @mariner4life said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

              Wracking my brain trying to think of another professional sports coach who has the job for a full season knowing he's not wanted?

              Very strange fucking time

              I actually don't know how I feel about it to be honest.

              I want to believe everyone is a stone cold professional and just gets on with the job. But that's fantasy.
              If Foster isn't their guy he shouldn't be there now.

              It's all ridiculous really.

              I think Malthouse to Buckley at Collingwood was similar.
              It was a bit ugly from memory.

              It was ugly due in large part because of the bizarre succession plan thing they had going. Buckley was Malthouse’s assistant and was basically serving out his time and then Eddie had to put everyone out of their misery and they gave the reins to Buckley. One journo said to me there was a bit of backgrounding going on as well. This all despite Collingwood producing great results in 2009, 10 and 11.

              In theory if this wasn’t a RWC year (and the NZRU had their act together), Razor would’ve been brought in immediately.

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                @kiwiinmelb said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                @mariner4life said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                Wracking my brain trying to think of another professional sports coach who has the job for a full season knowing he's not wanted?

                Very strange fucking time

                I actually don't know how I feel about it to be honest.

                I want to believe everyone is a stone cold professional and just gets on with the job. But that's fantasy.
                If Foster isn't their guy he shouldn't be there now.

                It's all ridiculous really.

                I think Malthouse to Buckley at Collingwood was similar.
                It was a bit ugly from memory.

                It was ugly due in large part because of the bizarre succession plan thing they had going. Buckley was Malthouse’s assistant and was basically serving out his time and then Eddie had to put everyone out of their misery and they gave the reins to Buckley. One journo said to me there was a bit of backgrounding going on as well. This all despite Collingwood producing great results in 2009, 10 and 11.

                In theory if this wasn’t a RWC year (and the NZRU had their act together), Razor would’ve been brought in immediately.

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                @ACT-Crusader said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                In theory if this wasn’t a RWC year (and the NZRU had their act together), Razor would’ve been brought in immediately.

                lol, like last year before South Africa happened?

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                  Ha, Razor told his dad about getting the AB gig yesterday, and his dad didnt believe him as he hadnt read anything in the media yet...

                  I expect the shiny new Razor effect will wear off in the next month or 2 now the appointment is made, allowing the focus to go back to Super Rugby, TRC and then the RWC.

                  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2023/03/rugby-scott-robertson-recounts-dad-s-hilarious-reaction-to-his-appointment-as-all-blacks-coach.html

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                  • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                    @Chris-B said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                    Someone might have already posted this - interesting to see Conrad on the panel.

                    The panel of NZ Rugby CEO Mark Robinson, board members Dame Farah Palmer and Bailey Mackey, NZR head of high performance Mike Anthony, former All Black Conrad Smith and Eddie Kohlhase, of High Performance Sport NZ and a former Black Sox softball coach.

                    yeah, wonder why? isn't he a lawyer? so maybe the combo of lawyer/player? but you might have thought former captains?

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                    @Kiwiwomble said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                    @Chris-B said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                    Someone might have already posted this - interesting to see Conrad on the panel.

                    The panel of NZ Rugby CEO Mark Robinson, board members Dame Farah Palmer and Bailey Mackey, NZR head of high performance Mike Anthony, former All Black Conrad Smith and Eddie Kohlhase, of High Performance Sport NZ and a former Black Sox softball coach.

                    yeah, wonder why? isn't he a lawyer? so maybe the combo of lawyer/player? but you might have thought former captains?

                    Because he's smart as fuck, and had been heavily involved with NZ and international players associations. Done a bit of coaching, too

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                      @ACT-Crusader said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                      In theory if this wasn’t a RWC year (and the NZRU had their act together), Razor would’ve been brought in immediately.

                      lol, like last year before South Africa happened?

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                      @bayimports said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                      @ACT-Crusader said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                      In theory if this wasn’t a RWC year (and the NZRU had their act together), Razor would’ve been brought in immediately.

                      lol, like last year before South Africa happened?

                      Agree, but they didn’t have their act together unless you call making frantic midnight phone calls and rushing around like headless chooks cooking up some plan was their plan….

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                        @kiwiinmelb said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                        @mariner4life said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                        Wracking my brain trying to think of another professional sports coach who has the job for a full season knowing he's not wanted?

                        Very strange fucking time

                        I actually don't know how I feel about it to be honest.

                        I want to believe everyone is a stone cold professional and just gets on with the job. But that's fantasy.
                        If Foster isn't their guy he shouldn't be there now.

                        It's all ridiculous really.

                        I think Malthouse to Buckley at Collingwood was similar.
                        It was a bit ugly from memory.

                        It was ugly due in large part because of the bizarre succession plan thing they had going. Buckley was Malthouse’s assistant and was basically serving out his time and then Eddie had to put everyone out of their misery and they gave the reins to Buckley. One journo said to me there was a bit of backgrounding going on as well. This all despite Collingwood producing great results in 2009, 10 and 11.

                        In theory if this wasn’t a RWC year (and the NZRU had their act together), Razor would’ve been brought in immediately.

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                        @ACT-Crusader said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                        @kiwiinmelb said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                        @mariner4life said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                        Wracking my brain trying to think of another professional sports coach who has the job for a full season knowing he's not wanted?

                        Very strange fucking time

                        I actually don't know how I feel about it to be honest.

                        I want to believe everyone is a stone cold professional and just gets on with the job. But that's fantasy.
                        If Foster isn't their guy he shouldn't be there now.

                        It's all ridiculous really.

                        I think Malthouse to Buckley at Collingwood was similar.
                        It was a bit ugly from memory.

                        It was ugly due in large part because of the bizarre succession plan thing they had going. Buckley was Malthouse’s assistant and was basically serving out his time and then Eddie had to put everyone out of their misery and they gave the reins to Buckley. One journo said to me there was a bit of backgrounding going on as well. This all despite Collingwood producing great results in 2009, 10 and 11.

                        In theory if this wasn’t a RWC year (and the NZRU had their act together), Razor would’ve been brought in immediately.

                        Yeah the situations are different in that Malthouse had been successful, and Buckley was the club’s favourite son and north melb in particular threw a decent coaching offer buckleys way . So they thought they were being clever in locking him away for the future . I don’t think they were prepared for how pissed off malthouse would become over the whole scenario.

                        Fozzie isn’t Malthouse .

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                          Unfortunately I feel that that NZR hasn't really set Razor up for success.

                          A lot of criticism of the appointment of Fozzie was that the process was predetermined before it begun hence we "didn't get the right man for the job".

                          NZR has made it very easy for the exact same criticism to be thrown at Razor (in fact I guarantee it if a losing streak comes along).

                          Hopefully he wont be in that predicament as he's simply a better coach but oh, how the media will turn...

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                            Rumors that Wayne smith may have a role similar to what schmidts was before he became more hands on

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                            • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                              Rumors that Wayne smith may have a role similar to what schmidts was before he became more hands on

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                              @kiwiinmelb said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                              Rumors that Wayne smith may have a role similar to what schmidts was before he became more hands on

                              It would make sense as Wayne Smith has been a mentor to Razor.

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                                any AB success in 2024 down to Wayne Smith and Wayne Smith only

                                100% nailed on rolled gold fact

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                                  Hopefully this appointment makes Foster think - "I'll show these c-unts"

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                                    Unfortunately I feel that that NZR hasn't really set Razor up for success.

                                    A lot of criticism of the appointment of Fozzie was that the process was predetermined before it begun hence we "didn't get the right man for the job".

                                    NZR has made it very easy for the exact same criticism to be thrown at Razor (in fact I guarantee it if a losing streak comes along).

                                    Hopefully he wont be in that predicament as he's simply a better coach but oh, how the media will turn...

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                                    @Windows97 said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                                    Unfortunately I feel that that NZR hasn't really set Razor up for success.

                                    A lot of criticism of the appointment of Fozzie was that the process was predetermined before it begun hence we "didn't get the right man for the job".

                                    NZR has made it very easy for the exact same criticism to be thrown at Razor (in fact I guarantee it if a losing streak comes along).

                                    Hopefully he wont be in that predicament as he's simply a better coach but oh, how the media will turn...

                                    Big difference between the two men’s record as head coaches, be hard to pull that card here.

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                                      @mariner4life said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                                      Wracking my brain trying to think of another professional sports coach who has the job for a full season knowing he's not wanted?

                                      The German soccer team do this sort of thing regularly.

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                                      @sparky said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                                      @mariner4life said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                                      Wracking my brain trying to think of another professional sports coach who has the job for a full season knowing he's not wanted?

                                      The German soccer team do this sort of thing regularly.

                                      The Scandinavian countries as well. The current coach of the Norwegian national team was actually supposed to have taken the position years back but Cologne poached him while he was waiting (compensation was paid to the Norwegian federation). He then got sacked by Cologne after like 5 months. The equivalent would be some cashed-up French team poaching Razor during the next 12 months.

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                                        so no Holland then...?

                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/131568269/ill-put-it-to-bed-now-hurricanes-coach-responds-to-all-blacks-speculation

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                                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                          so no Holland then...?

                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/131568269/ill-put-it-to-bed-now-hurricanes-coach-responds-to-all-blacks-speculation

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                                          @taniwharugby I truly hope that nothing about assistant coaches leaks to the media. All attention should now go to the RWC. Let the clickbait media wait. I'm sick of all the nonsense speculation.

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