It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.
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@ACT-Crusader said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
In theory if this wasn’t a RWC year (and the NZRU had their act together), Razor would’ve been brought in immediately.
lol, like last year before South Africa happened?
@bayimports said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@ACT-Crusader said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
In theory if this wasn’t a RWC year (and the NZRU had their act together), Razor would’ve been brought in immediately.
lol, like last year before South Africa happened?
Agree, but they didn’t have their act together unless you call making frantic midnight phone calls and rushing around like headless chooks cooking up some plan was their plan….
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@kiwiinmelb said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@mariner4life said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
Wracking my brain trying to think of another professional sports coach who has the job for a full season knowing he's not wanted?
Very strange fucking time
I actually don't know how I feel about it to be honest.
I want to believe everyone is a stone cold professional and just gets on with the job. But that's fantasy.
If Foster isn't their guy he shouldn't be there now.It's all ridiculous really.
I think Malthouse to Buckley at Collingwood was similar.
It was a bit ugly from memory.It was ugly due in large part because of the bizarre succession plan thing they had going. Buckley was Malthouse’s assistant and was basically serving out his time and then Eddie had to put everyone out of their misery and they gave the reins to Buckley. One journo said to me there was a bit of backgrounding going on as well. This all despite Collingwood producing great results in 2009, 10 and 11.
In theory if this wasn’t a RWC year (and the NZRU had their act together), Razor would’ve been brought in immediately.
@ACT-Crusader said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@kiwiinmelb said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@mariner4life said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
Wracking my brain trying to think of another professional sports coach who has the job for a full season knowing he's not wanted?
Very strange fucking time
I actually don't know how I feel about it to be honest.
I want to believe everyone is a stone cold professional and just gets on with the job. But that's fantasy.
If Foster isn't their guy he shouldn't be there now.It's all ridiculous really.
I think Malthouse to Buckley at Collingwood was similar.
It was a bit ugly from memory.It was ugly due in large part because of the bizarre succession plan thing they had going. Buckley was Malthouse’s assistant and was basically serving out his time and then Eddie had to put everyone out of their misery and they gave the reins to Buckley. One journo said to me there was a bit of backgrounding going on as well. This all despite Collingwood producing great results in 2009, 10 and 11.
In theory if this wasn’t a RWC year (and the NZRU had their act together), Razor would’ve been brought in immediately.
Yeah the situations are different in that Malthouse had been successful, and Buckley was the club’s favourite son and north melb in particular threw a decent coaching offer buckleys way . So they thought they were being clever in locking him away for the future . I don’t think they were prepared for how pissed off malthouse would become over the whole scenario.
Fozzie isn’t Malthouse .
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Unfortunately I feel that that NZR hasn't really set Razor up for success.
A lot of criticism of the appointment of Fozzie was that the process was predetermined before it begun hence we "didn't get the right man for the job".
NZR has made it very easy for the exact same criticism to be thrown at Razor (in fact I guarantee it if a losing streak comes along).
Hopefully he wont be in that predicament as he's simply a better coach but oh, how the media will turn...
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Rumors that Wayne smith may have a role similar to what schmidts was before he became more hands on
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Rumors that Wayne smith may have a role similar to what schmidts was before he became more hands on
@kiwiinmelb said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
Rumors that Wayne smith may have a role similar to what schmidts was before he became more hands on
It would make sense as Wayne Smith has been a mentor to Razor.
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any AB success in 2024 down to Wayne Smith and Wayne Smith only
100% nailed on rolled gold fact
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Unfortunately I feel that that NZR hasn't really set Razor up for success.
A lot of criticism of the appointment of Fozzie was that the process was predetermined before it begun hence we "didn't get the right man for the job".
NZR has made it very easy for the exact same criticism to be thrown at Razor (in fact I guarantee it if a losing streak comes along).
Hopefully he wont be in that predicament as he's simply a better coach but oh, how the media will turn...
@Windows97 said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
Unfortunately I feel that that NZR hasn't really set Razor up for success.
A lot of criticism of the appointment of Fozzie was that the process was predetermined before it begun hence we "didn't get the right man for the job".
NZR has made it very easy for the exact same criticism to be thrown at Razor (in fact I guarantee it if a losing streak comes along).
Hopefully he wont be in that predicament as he's simply a better coach but oh, how the media will turn...
Big difference between the two men’s record as head coaches, be hard to pull that card here.
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@mariner4life said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
Wracking my brain trying to think of another professional sports coach who has the job for a full season knowing he's not wanted?
The German soccer team do this sort of thing regularly.
@sparky said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@mariner4life said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
Wracking my brain trying to think of another professional sports coach who has the job for a full season knowing he's not wanted?
The German soccer team do this sort of thing regularly.
The Scandinavian countries as well. The current coach of the Norwegian national team was actually supposed to have taken the position years back but Cologne poached him while he was waiting (compensation was paid to the Norwegian federation). He then got sacked by Cologne after like 5 months. The equivalent would be some cashed-up French team poaching Razor during the next 12 months.
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so no Holland then...?
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@taniwharugby I truly hope that nothing about assistant coaches leaks to the media. All attention should now go to the RWC. Let the clickbait media wait. I'm sick of all the nonsense speculation.
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@taniwharugby I truly hope that nothing about assistant coaches leaks to the media. All attention should now go to the RWC. Let the clickbait media wait. I'm sick of all the nonsense speculation.
@Stargazer I expect it will mostly die off in a few weeks or so, but in the meantime there will of course be plenty of speculation.
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@taniwharugby I truly hope that nothing about assistant coaches leaks to the media. All attention should now go to the RWC. Let the clickbait media wait. I'm sick of all the nonsense speculation.
@Stargazer said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@taniwharugby I truly hope that nothing about assistant coaches leaks to the media. All attention should now go to the RWC. Let the clickbait media wait. I'm sick of all the nonsense speculation.
i was kind of hoping they would be announced along with razor, all done and dusted
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@taniwharugby I truly hope that nothing about assistant coaches leaks to the media. All attention should now go to the RWC. Let the clickbait media wait. I'm sick of all the nonsense speculation.
@Stargazer said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
I truly hope that nothing about assistant coaches leaks to the media. All attention should now go to the RWC. Let the clickbait media wait. I'm sick of all the nonsense speculation.
Ha that’s not going happen
The assistants are likely to impact SR teams. Those SR coaches need to be replaced, maybe from NZ coaches who are overseas. Lots of negotiations for leaks to happen.
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@taniwharugby I truly hope that nothing about assistant coaches leaks to the media. All attention should now go to the RWC. Let the clickbait media wait. I'm sick of all the nonsense speculation.
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@Stargazer it's well known who razor will take Scott Hansen and 2 more
@george33 said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Stargazer it's well known who razor will take Scott Hansen and 2 more
Yep you can lock in Scott Hansen and Jason Ryan.
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@george33 said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Stargazer it's well known who razor will take Scott Hansen and 2 more
Yep you can lock in Scott Hansen and Jason Ryan.
@Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@george33 said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Stargazer it's well known who razor will take Scott Hansen and 2 more
Yep you can lock in Scott Hansen and Jason Ryan.
Hansen is an attack / game strategy guy now, correct? Will he go back to defence or stay there?
So, we need a defence coach and maybe a specific backs / attack coach?
I'd like a skills coach similar to Mic the kick again.
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@Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@george33 said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Stargazer it's well known who razor will take Scott Hansen and 2 more
Yep you can lock in Scott Hansen and Jason Ryan.
Hansen is an attack / game strategy guy now, correct? Will he go back to defence or stay there?
So, we need a defence coach and maybe a specific backs / attack coach?
I'd like a skills coach similar to Mic the kick again.
@gt12 said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@george33 said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Stargazer it's well known who razor will take Scott Hansen and 2 more
Yep you can lock in Scott Hansen and Jason Ryan.
Hansen is an attack / game strategy guy now, correct? Will he go back to defence or stay there?
So, we need a defence coach and maybe a specific backs / attack coach?
I'd like a skills coach similar to Mic the kick again.
Hansen I think will stay with attack/Game strategy.
Razor may take over the defence he started out with Canterbury as a defence coach that was his specialty.
Looks to me like a backs coach and depending on Razor a defence coach.
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@gt12 said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@george33 said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Stargazer it's well known who razor will take Scott Hansen and 2 more
Yep you can lock in Scott Hansen and Jason Ryan.
Hansen is an attack / game strategy guy now, correct? Will he go back to defence or stay there?
So, we need a defence coach and maybe a specific backs / attack coach?
I'd like a skills coach similar to Mic the kick again.
Hansen I think will stay with attack/Game strategy.
Razor may take over the defence he started out with Canterbury as a defence coach that was his specialty.
Looks to me like a backs coach and depending on Razor a defence coach.
@Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@gt12 said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@george33 said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Stargazer it's well known who razor will take Scott Hansen and 2 more
Yep you can lock in Scott Hansen and Jason Ryan.
Hansen is an attack / game strategy guy now, correct? Will he go back to defence or stay there?
So, we need a defence coach and maybe a specific backs / attack coach?
I'd like a skills coach similar to Mic the kick again.
Hansen I think will stay with attack/Game strategy.
Razor may take over the defence he started out with Canterbury as a defence coach that was his specialty.
Looks to me like a backs coach and depending on Razor a defence coach.
That would give Leon the best chance, Shirley?
He could gut the Saders and bring Ellison for defense as well I guess. Any chance he could bring in a northern hemisphere person? Any out of box picks like a Jono Gibbes (he’s out of a job right now if I recall)?
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@Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@gt12 said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@george33 said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Stargazer it's well known who razor will take Scott Hansen and 2 more
Yep you can lock in Scott Hansen and Jason Ryan.
Hansen is an attack / game strategy guy now, correct? Will he go back to defence or stay there?
So, we need a defence coach and maybe a specific backs / attack coach?
I'd like a skills coach similar to Mic the kick again.
Hansen I think will stay with attack/Game strategy.
Razor may take over the defence he started out with Canterbury as a defence coach that was his specialty.
Looks to me like a backs coach and depending on Razor a defence coach.
That would give Leon the best chance, Shirley?
He could gut the Saders and bring Ellison for defense as well I guess. Any chance he could bring in a northern hemisphere person? Any out of box picks like a Jono Gibbes (he’s out of a job right now if I recall)?
@gt12 said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@gt12 said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@george33 said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Stargazer it's well known who razor will take Scott Hansen and 2 more
Yep you can lock in Scott Hansen and Jason Ryan.
Hansen is an attack / game strategy guy now, correct? Will he go back to defence or stay there?
So, we need a defence coach and maybe a specific backs / attack coach?
I'd like a skills coach similar to Mic the kick again.
Hansen I think will stay with attack/Game strategy.
Razor may take over the defence he started out with Canterbury as a defence coach that was his specialty.
Looks to me like a backs coach and depending on Razor a defence coach.
That would give Leon the best chance, Shirley?
He could gut the Saders and bring Ellison for defense as well I guess. Any chance he could bring in a northern hemisphere person? Any out of box picks like a Jono Gibbes (he’s out of a job right now if I recall)?
Yeah I think it would be a possibility,Razor will think outside the box we may see a NH person attached to the group.
I would throw out the names of Vern Cotter,Ronan O’Gara,Andy Goodman as all a chance
