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  • NepiaN Nepia

    @muddyriver said in Exodus:

    @Crucial I think NZ Needs to start selecting form overseas.

    Super Rugby is losing a whole squad (-30) of Starting players this year. The Conveyer belt isnt big enough. The Highlanders can hardly get a full squad this year and alot of squads already contain 'Future" players.

    Overseas comps have got better, the best coaches are in those comps. It would reduce NZ rugbys overheads (smaller all black contracts). Soccer is a professional model tried and tested. the bigger economies rule the roost with club comps.

    Rugby isn't soccer, it's not comparing apples wth apples. The ABs can't just throw teams together pre-tournament/tour from players all over the globe and expect success. The sports are different, that's why even some NH teams restrict their players from even playing in a competition a few hours away.

    Every time this is brought up we look at the overseas players and conclude there's barely any who would realistically make the team anyway.

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    @Nepia said in Exodus:

    @muddyriver said in Exodus:

    @Crucial I think NZ Needs to start selecting form overseas.

    Super Rugby is losing a whole squad (-30) of Starting players this year. The Conveyer belt isnt big enough. The Highlanders can hardly get a full squad this year and alot of squads already contain 'Future" players.

    Overseas comps have got better, the best coaches are in those comps. It would reduce NZ rugbys overheads (smaller all black contracts). Soccer is a professional model tried and tested. the bigger economies rule the roost with club comps.

    Rugby isn't soccer, it's not comparing apples wth apples. The ABs can't just throw teams together pre-tournament/tour from players all over the globe and expect success. The sports are different, that's why even some NH teams restrict their players from even playing in a competition a few hours away.

    Every time this is brought up we look at the overseas players and conclude there's barely any who would realistically make the team anyway.

    Yep totally agree I would hate to see us select from overseas and it would become a free for all.

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      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300812806/four-more-years-beauden-barrett-confirms-next-all-blacks-cycle-on-table-as-he-weighs-future

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        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300812806/four-more-years-beauden-barrett-confirms-next-all-blacks-cycle-on-table-as-he-weighs-future

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        @Tim said in Exodus:

        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300812806/four-more-years-beauden-barrett-confirms-next-all-blacks-cycle-on-table-as-he-weighs-future

        That's great, come on down Stevie P...

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        • TimT Tim

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300812806/four-more-years-beauden-barrett-confirms-next-all-blacks-cycle-on-table-as-he-weighs-future

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          @Tim said in Exodus:

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300812806/four-more-years-beauden-barrett-confirms-next-all-blacks-cycle-on-table-as-he-weighs-future

          lol fuck he's barely good enough now let alone in 4 years.

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            I don't mind if Sullivan heads down south instead though, even his brother can join.

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              Lol Beauden was on a downward trajectory when he finished up at the Canes. I just can't imagine what he'll be like in four years, both parties need to move on after the WC IMO, there's plenty of talent coming through.

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              • TimT Tim

                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300812806/four-more-years-beauden-barrett-confirms-next-all-blacks-cycle-on-table-as-he-weighs-future

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                @Tim well hopefully it is an appropriate remuneration for where I expect he will be in 4 years...I mean if he sticks around, he still has alot to offer, particularly at super and npc (cos really post '24 I don't think he will be an AB still, i mean post RWC will be a stretch) so if it is a kinda mapped out exit from international rugby when he is no longer contributing in black, but the final 2 years of his contract are to 'give back'...

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                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                  @Tim said in Exodus:

                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300812806/four-more-years-beauden-barrett-confirms-next-all-blacks-cycle-on-table-as-he-weighs-future

                  lol fuck he's barely good enough now let alone in 4 years.

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                  @mariner4life said in Exodus:

                  lol fuck he's barely good enough now let alone in 4 years.

                  Beauden has invoked the Codie Taylor clause. Lendrum must be an easy touch in the contract negotiations.

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                    https://supersport.com/rugby/general/news/52e61b0f-6d28-45bf-81b6-2ce98aaaedf5/plumtree-is-poised-to-return-to-sharks-as-head-coach

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                      https://supersport.com/rugby/general/news/52e61b0f-6d28-45bf-81b6-2ce98aaaedf5/plumtree-is-poised-to-return-to-sharks-as-head-coach

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                      @Machpants looks here to me πŸ™‚

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                        @Machpants looks here to me πŸ™‚

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                        @bayimports said in Exodus:

                        @Machpants looks here to me πŸ™‚

                        Yep, search fail...

                        Anyway Big Red off to Japan 😞

                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/revealed-blues-star-latest-to-leave-new-zealand-as-steve-hansen-lures-players-to-japan/UDZKQEUGXJESLNMU4ITB7GBMD4/

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                          @bayimports said in Exodus:

                          @Machpants looks here to me πŸ™‚

                          Yep, search fail...

                          Anyway Big Red off to Japan 😞

                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/revealed-blues-star-latest-to-leave-new-zealand-as-steve-hansen-lures-players-to-japan/UDZKQEUGXJESLNMU4ITB7GBMD4/

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                          @Machpants yuck terrible news

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                            Not a surprise unfortunately. I think S Harris posted the rumour recently

                            In the last few years he kept breaking just before the first AB squad of the year was named. Last year he missed the NPC too.. probably not a bad time to cash in given the injuries and head knocks

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                            • DuluthD Duluth

                              Not a surprise unfortunately. I think S Harris posted the rumour recently

                              In the last few years he kept breaking just before the first AB squad of the year was named. Last year he missed the NPC too.. probably not a bad time to cash in given the injuries and head knocks

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                              @Duluth yep, one of those players who could have been, but never was.

                              I think he does stick about for NPC at least, be nice to get a few more games, given last year was an inner ear issue, 2021 was concussion, 2020 was covid.

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                                we'll always have his press conference after he captained the Blues. Classic. Character, we'll miss him - thanks for the effort, go well Big Red

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                                  The Herald understands Hansen is also in talks to sign Highlanders lock Josh Dickson, who was called into train with the national team last year and featured for the All Blacks XV in their two-match northern tour.

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                                    Hadn't checked for a while. Let's see what I can find.


                                    Alapati Leiua has signed with Shizuoka Blue Revs as an "additional player" for the (current) 2022-2023 season.

                                    https://www.shizuoka-bluerevs.com/news/954

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                                      Hadn't checked for a while. Let's see what I can find.


                                      Alapati Leiua has signed with Shizuoka Blue Revs as an "additional player" for the (current) 2022-2023 season.

                                      https://www.shizuoka-bluerevs.com/news/954

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                                      @Stargazer said in Exodus:

                                      Alapati Leiua

                                      Blast from the past from a Canes supporter, had no idea he was still playing.

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                                        @Stargazer said in Exodus:

                                        Alapati Leiua

                                        Blast from the past from a Canes supporter, had no idea he was still playing.

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                                        Bovidae
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                                        @Darren said in Exodus:

                                        @Stargazer said in Exodus:

                                        Alapati Leiua

                                        Blast from the past from a Canes supporter, had no idea he was still playing.

                                        He was playing for Waikato last season before leaving during the NPC to go to SA. Let's just say he moves around.

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                                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                          @Darren said in Exodus:

                                          @Stargazer said in Exodus:

                                          Alapati Leiua

                                          Blast from the past from a Canes supporter, had no idea he was still playing.

                                          He was playing for Waikato last season before leaving during the NPC to go to SA. Let's just say he moves around.

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                                          @Bovidae said in Exodus:

                                          @Darren said in Exodus:

                                          @Stargazer said in Exodus:

                                          Alapati Leiua

                                          Blast from the past from a Canes supporter, had no idea he was still playing.

                                          He was playing for Waikato last season before leaving during the NPC to go to SA. Let's just say he moves around.

                                          ... But not as quickly as he used to from what I saw

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