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I am starting to get pretty adamant that biological sex needs to be taught front and centre to children.
In particular, that biological sexes are different in a number of significant ways, and are immutable.
Put simply, whichever gender you adopt your biological sex will be with you until your dying breath.
I have absolutely no problem with either sex identifying as either gender, and from time to time swapping between them.
But I think teenagers need to have rammed home to them that a biological man who has his penis removed will remain a biological man, even if he spends the rest of his life in the feminine gender. And vice versa.
The more I think about this the more trans gender surgery seems unnatural. Which tends to suggest it ought to be restricted to unusual circumstances.
Oops?
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More violent mobs assaulting women:
RILEY GAINES: I was hit for speaking out against trans movement https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11950063/RILEY-GAINES-hit-face-man-dressed-woman-speaking-against-trans-movement.html?ito=native_share_article-top
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@booboo said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:
@pakman whilst that would seem sensible the trans apologists would block and claim genocide because you want them to cease existing.
Sounds like we are facing something akin to the issues raised in 1984 and Fountainhead?!
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@pakman 100%. I suggest we stop or remove funding for all gender affirming surgery and cross sex hormones immediately. US, UK, New Zealand etc. No more transes, no more transgender problems. Call me a transphobes but a lack of common sense has just gone far too far, and now it's affecting our kids
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@broughie said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:
@paremata said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:
@MajorRage said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:
What do these guys think is going to happen if they answer "adult human female"?
Are they genuinely that scared of <1% of their voting base?
He’s been trying to portray himself as “Chippy from the block “ a down to earth working class boy from the hutt who’s focused on bread and butter issues .
It only took one question to remind everyone he’s a career politician who’s completely immersed in politics and utterly out of touch with the general population.Massive , massive own goal on his part .
Well if that is a working class boy from the Hutt is then they all must be pussies. Can I say that?
You can say that, not many of us work anyway.
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I caught some Ben Shapiro on YT. Not a fan of him, but pretty much agree with his ideas on this subject:
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Human mammalian biology is immutable. A male cannot give birth. The existence of a minute number of intersex people does not prove people can change sex or be two sexes at once. No human being can self-reproduce.
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There is a wide continuum of femininity and masculine characteristics in males and females (which presents in may ways) but that does not mean a man is a woman or a woman is a man.
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Children and teenagers go thru hormonal changes and become confused about sex and their gender characteristics. This is normal. It is wrong and immoral to allow them to be subjected to life-changing treatment while they are not yet adults nor fully aware of their sexuality
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Gender dysphoria is real, causes suffering and can result in self-harm and suicide. People suffering from it should be treated with respect, dignity, courtesy and helped as much as possible. If transitioning works, then all power to them - society should accommodate to the best of its ability while respecting the rights of others
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We need to safeguard society from those using the problems of people impacted by gender dysphoria to deprive males and females of their rights as men and women
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Great example of freedom of speech and not prepared to listen to common sense
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It's like watching an episode of 'The Thick Of It'
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Whenever I see multi-national companies getting on to some idealistic bandwagon I am always reminded of this:
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@MN5 said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:
@booboo said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:
I cant believe people bought Bud light in the first place to be fair
Light beer is for people that secretly enjoying weeing a lot imho . Best take I’ve seen is “ water pretending to be beer is being marketed by a man pretending to be a woman “.
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I’m a little perplexed. I mean, I get the revolt against the woke. I do. But it’s hardly an offensive ad. If I genuinely liked that beer, I sure as fuck wouldn’t stop drinking it because they got that dude to promote it. It’s not the worst ad, it’s hardly admonishing the existing drinkers, it’s just a light hearted stupid ad.
If the the Australian society of slow-cooked lamb shoulders used him/her to promote lamb, I’m not stubborn enough to switch to mutton. Who fucking cares?Also, it’s still 4% beer right?
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@voodoo I totally agree.
If people are that pissed off about the ad they are boycotting the products, then perhaps the activists have points. Society is genuinely against the trans community.
I doubt it. I suspect that Twitter user is just an agenda driven dickhead.
I’m totally of the Shapiro views on this. And I highly doubt he would stop drinking bud on the back of this.
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@voodoo said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:
I’m a little perplexed. I mean, I get the revolt against the woke. I do. But it’s hardly an offensive ad. If I genuinely liked that beer, I sure as fuck wouldn’t stop drinking it because they got that dude to promote it. It’s not the worst ad, it’s hardly admonishing the existing drinkers, it’s just a light hearted stupid ad.
If the the Australian society of slow-cooked lamb shoulders used him/her to promote lamb, I’m not stubborn enough to switch to mutton. Who fucking cares?Also, it’s still 4% beer right?
I didn’t post the tweet @booboo did, I quoted it. I’ve been boycotting Budweiser for about 30 years because I thought it was shit the one time I tried so this makes zero difference to my life. I usually drink Heineken and they unfortunately have all kinds of cringe woke ads , it still tastes ok though.
Dunno about the percentage but light is usually 2.5% here .
Anyway here’s another op Ed about the protests with effectively zero mention of the violence towards women and whining about the real victims on the day being the trans community. It’s weird that the same sort of people who constantly thrashwank about “gaslighting” seem to do this so much .
https://www.stuff.co.nz/pou-tiaki/300850151/the-long-shadow-cast-by-the-posie-parker-show
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@Catogrande said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:
Whenever I see multi-national companies getting on to some idealistic bandwagon I am always reminded of this:
Appealing to a particular group is the classical explanation for this type of marketing. It explains some of it, but not much IMO
There's also the true believers in the new civil religion that want to spread the word. This will become more common over time.. the universities pump out moral scolds who over time will have more positions of power.
However a lot of what is happening now is because of external pressure
In the early 2000's civil rights groups would target organisations for protests if they didn't reach certain criteria. Maybe a quota for blacks, outreach programs, or maybe they didn't sell enough of their services (particularly banks) to blacks. The protests were damaging for the business and the protests would often have allies in the local government to increase the pressure further.
Luckily the groups had a solution! They also provided consultants and sold courses to solve the problem. This was an ongoing cost of doing business.. a mafia shakedownSo what does that have to do with the Bud ad campaign? Well now there is an equity index that rates companies ( CEI ). It's the same idea just a little more formalised. Purchasing services from grifters becomes a cost of doing business. Politicians of a certain ilk will also target you if you have a low score
In some of the recent examples of companies doing something really 'woke' they had a low CEI score and needed a quick fix
This will continue, and it will increase, unless the cost of the reaction (a boycott hurting the stock) is greater than the cost of compliance. That is not going to happen given given the economic ecosystem that has grown out of this and the political power that it generates
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