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  • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

    @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2023:

    LF is being aggressively courted by a number of top French clubs for a possibly lucrative deal. He is not signed beyond this year.

    I wonder how he is viewed by AB selectors, he'd probably do very well in France...

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    @nostrildamus Financially it may make sense, so early in his All Black career which looks so promising it wouldn't.

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      Nick Bishop's articles are always worth a read IMO

      https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/will-cam-roigard-be-a-good-fit-for-the-all-blacks-world-cup-campaign/

      Rugby Pass Premium is free, but you do need to make an acount

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        So, for some reason I can't help but feel weird about the current coaching setup given the saviour is taking over post world cup. How do you think this impacts Fozzie and the current crop? I honestly hope it gives them that extra motivation to say fuck you to all who doubt them or don't believe they are capable. I guess anything but winning the cup will be deemed a failure by his reign.

        I wonder if Razor is secretly hoping they lose the WC as it would make his job a little harder taking over the world champions and trying to retain it. Thoughts?

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        • chimoausC chimoaus

          So, for some reason I can't help but feel weird about the current coaching setup given the saviour is taking over post world cup. How do you think this impacts Fozzie and the current crop? I honestly hope it gives them that extra motivation to say fuck you to all who doubt them or don't believe they are capable. I guess anything but winning the cup will be deemed a failure by his reign.

          I wonder if Razor is secretly hoping they lose the WC as it would make his job a little harder taking over the world champions and trying to retain it. Thoughts?

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          @chimoaus said in All Blacks 2023:

          I guess anything but winning the cup will be deemed a failure by his reign.
          I wonder if Razor is secretly hoping they lose the WC as it would make his job a little harder taking over the world champions and trying to retain it.

          First point, Foster's reign, even if he wins the cup is a failure. He has broken too many long-held records of the ABs, once proudly held and never to get back. The ABs under him have been poor and we have seen no real change since late Hansen. Getting the cup would be awesome, but that doesn't wipe out the rest of the results.

          Second, no way would Razor wish that, he's a true ABs man - that's pretty low.

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          • chimoausC chimoaus

            So, for some reason I can't help but feel weird about the current coaching setup given the saviour is taking over post world cup. How do you think this impacts Fozzie and the current crop? I honestly hope it gives them that extra motivation to say fuck you to all who doubt them or don't believe they are capable. I guess anything but winning the cup will be deemed a failure by his reign.

            I wonder if Razor is secretly hoping they lose the WC as it would make his job a little harder taking over the world champions and trying to retain it. Thoughts?

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            @chimoaus On one of his most recent interviews Scott says he will be travelling to France as a spectator. In that case you would wonder how closely he is working with the squad.

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              @chimoaus On one of his most recent interviews Scott says he will be travelling to France as a spectator. In that case you would wonder how closely he is working with the squad.

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              @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2023:

              @chimoaus On one of his most recent interviews Scott says he will be travelling to France as a spectator. In that case you would wonder how closely he is working with the squad.

              Not at all I hope, he needs to butt out until 29 October, or realistically the 15th

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                @nostrildamus Financially it may make sense, so early in his All Black career which looks so promising it wouldn't.

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                @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2023:

                @nostrildamus Financially it may make sense, so early in his All Black career which looks so promising it wouldn't.

                I think LF will be right back in AB contention come 2024 if his form holds up.
                Pretty Sure Razor would have a word in his ear to let him know if he has an AB chance after the WC.

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                  @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2023:

                  @chimoaus On one of his most recent interviews Scott says he will be travelling to France as a spectator. In that case you would wonder how closely he is working with the squad.

                  Not at all I hope, he needs to butt out until 29 October, or realistically the 15th

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                  @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

                  @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2023:

                  @chimoaus On one of his most recent interviews Scott says he will be travelling to France as a spectator. In that case you would wonder how closely he is working with the squad.

                  Not at all I hope, he needs to butt out until 29 October, or realistically the 15th

                  Well away from the AB's not even near them.

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                  • chimoausC chimoaus

                    So, for some reason I can't help but feel weird about the current coaching setup given the saviour is taking over post world cup. How do you think this impacts Fozzie and the current crop? I honestly hope it gives them that extra motivation to say fuck you to all who doubt them or don't believe they are capable. I guess anything but winning the cup will be deemed a failure by his reign.

                    I wonder if Razor is secretly hoping they lose the WC as it would make his job a little harder taking over the world champions and trying to retain it. Thoughts?

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                    @chimoaus said in All Blacks 2023:

                    I wonder if Razor is secretly hoping they lose the WC as it would make his job a little harder taking over the world champions and trying to retain it. Thoughts?

                    That is not Razor he was an AB he would never wish them to lose.Not in his nature.

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                    • ChrisC Chris

                      @chimoaus said in All Blacks 2023:

                      I wonder if Razor is secretly hoping they lose the WC as it would make his job a little harder taking over the world champions and trying to retain it. Thoughts?

                      That is not Razor he was an AB he would never wish them to lose.Not in his nature.

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                      @Chris Win or lose this WC with the amounts of retirements and players moving on etc Razor will be rebuilding the team either way.
                      He will be putting his stamp on it straight away

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                        @Chris Win or lose this WC with the amounts of retirements and players moving on etc Razor will be rebuilding the team either way.
                        He will be putting his stamp on it straight away

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                        @kidcalder said in All Blacks 2023:

                        @Chris Win or lose this WC with the amounts of retirements and players moving on etc Razor will be rebuilding the team either way.
                        He will be putting his stamp on it straight away

                        Yes that is the Razor way.

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                        • ChrisC Chris

                          @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

                          @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2023:

                          @chimoaus On one of his most recent interviews Scott says he will be travelling to France as a spectator. In that case you would wonder how closely he is working with the squad.

                          Not at all I hope, he needs to butt out until 29 October, or realistically the 15th

                          Well away from the AB's not even near them.

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                          @Chris And away from press etc, low profile etc.

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                            @Chris And away from press etc, low profile etc.

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                            @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2023:

                            @Chris And away from press etc, low profile etc.

                            Yep I would think so.

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                              Nick Bishop's articles are always worth a read IMO

                              https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/will-cam-roigard-be-a-good-fit-for-the-all-blacks-world-cup-campaign/

                              Rugby Pass Premium is free, but you do need to make an acount

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                              @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

                              "There are not many success stories among scrumhalves over six feet tall."

                              Is that a subtle dig at TJP?!

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                                @chimoaus said in All Blacks 2023:

                                I guess anything but winning the cup will be deemed a failure by his reign.
                                I wonder if Razor is secretly hoping they lose the WC as it would make his job a little harder taking over the world champions and trying to retain it.

                                First point, Foster's reign, even if he wins the cup is a failure. He has broken too many long-held records of the ABs, once proudly held and never to get back. The ABs under him have been poor and we have seen no real change since late Hansen. Getting the cup would be awesome, but that doesn't wipe out the rest of the results.

                                Second, no way would Razor wish that, he's a true ABs man - that's pretty low.

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                                @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

                                The ABs under him have been poor and we have seen no real change since late Hansen.

                                Not sure Hansen would start JB on the wing...

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                                • chimoausC chimoaus

                                  So, for some reason I can't help but feel weird about the current coaching setup given the saviour is taking over post world cup. How do you think this impacts Fozzie and the current crop? I honestly hope it gives them that extra motivation to say fuck you to all who doubt them or don't believe they are capable. I guess anything but winning the cup will be deemed a failure by his reign.

                                  I wonder if Razor is secretly hoping they lose the WC as it would make his job a little harder taking over the world champions and trying to retain it. Thoughts?

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                                  @chimoaus said in All Blacks 2023:

                                  So, for some reason I can't help but feel weird about the current coaching setup given the saviour is taking over post world cup. How do you think this impacts Fozzie and the current crop? I honestly hope it gives them that extra motivation to say fuck you to all who doubt them or don't believe they are capable. I guess anything but winning the cup will be deemed a failure by his reign.

                                  I wonder if Razor is secretly hoping they lose the WC as it would make his job a little harder taking over the world champions and trying to retain it. Thoughts?

                                  I think his mindset would be to not waste time worrying about the things he has no control over and focus on the things he can control

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                                  • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

                                    "There are not many success stories among scrumhalves over six feet tall."

                                    Is that a subtle dig at TJP?!

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                                    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2023:

                                    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

                                    "There are not many success stories among scrumhalves over six feet tall."

                                    Is that a subtle dig at TJP?!

                                    Joost VDW was best 9 I have ever seen.

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                                      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2023:

                                      @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

                                      "There are not many success stories among scrumhalves over six feet tall."

                                      Is that a subtle dig at TJP?!

                                      Joost VDW was best 9 I have ever seen.

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                                      @ARHS said in All Blacks 2023:

                                      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2023:

                                      @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

                                      "There are not many success stories among scrumhalves over six feet tall."

                                      Is that a subtle dig at TJP?!

                                      Joost VDW was best 9 I have ever seen.

                                      Thus 'not many', he was specifically mentioned

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                                        @ARHS said in All Blacks 2023:

                                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2023:

                                        @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

                                        "There are not many success stories among scrumhalves over six feet tall."

                                        Is that a subtle dig at TJP?!

                                        Joost VDW was best 9 I have ever seen.

                                        Thus 'not many', he was specifically mentioned

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                                        @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

                                        @ARHS said in All Blacks 2023:

                                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2023:

                                        @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

                                        "There are not many success stories among scrumhalves over six feet tall."

                                        Is that a subtle dig at TJP?!

                                        Joost VDW was best 9 I have ever seen.

                                        Thus 'not many', he was specifically mentioned

                                        This ‘reading the articles’ thing is not the fern way.

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                                        • gt12G gt12

                                          @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

                                          @ARHS said in All Blacks 2023:

                                          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2023:

                                          @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

                                          "There are not many success stories among scrumhalves over six feet tall."

                                          Is that a subtle dig at TJP?!

                                          Joost VDW was best 9 I have ever seen.

                                          Thus 'not many', he was specifically mentioned

                                          This ‘reading the articles’ thing is not the fern way.

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                                          @gt12 said in All Blacks 2023:

                                          @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

                                          @ARHS said in All Blacks 2023:

                                          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2023:

                                          @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

                                          "There are not many success stories among scrumhalves over six feet tall."

                                          Is that a subtle dig at TJP?!

                                          Joost VDW was best 9 I have ever seen.

                                          Thus 'not many', he was specifically mentioned

                                          This ‘reading the articles’ thing is not the fern way.

                                          I hope you don't refer to me, I can't be bothered to make an account but in what I read there was no reference to TJP who is allegedly taller than Roigard. And as an exception that article mentioned the tall English halfback who wasn't to my mind outstanding in that position.

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