All Blacks 2023
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@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2023:
Speaking on The Breakdown on Monday, Moana Pasifika general manager Kevin Senio said 80 percent of the players on the franchise’s roster will need to eligible or available to play for Samoa, Tonga, Fiji or any other Pacific nation.
That would leave eight players within the franchise’s 38-man squad available to play for the All Blacks, Wallabies or any other test nation.
“What we’ve done is we’ve used the New Zealand model and flipped it on its head,” Senio, who played one test for the All Blacks in 2005, said.
“So, 80 percent of the team have to be eligible and/or have played for Samoa or Tonga and/or Fiji – any of the Pasifika teams.
“For those who are going to be aligning themselves into Moana Pasifika, you can’t play for the All Blacks or Australia.”I can't see that's enforceable.
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2023:
@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2023:
Speaking on The Breakdown on Monday, Moana Pasifika general manager Kevin Senio said 80 percent of the players on the franchise’s roster will need to eligible or available to play for Samoa, Tonga, Fiji or any other Pacific nation.
That would leave eight players within the franchise’s 38-man squad available to play for the All Blacks, Wallabies or any other test nation.
“What we’ve done is we’ve used the New Zealand model and flipped it on its head,” Senio, who played one test for the All Blacks in 2005, said.
“So, 80 percent of the team have to be eligible and/or have played for Samoa or Tonga and/or Fiji – any of the Pasifika teams.
“For those who are going to be aligning themselves into Moana Pasifika, you can’t play for the All Blacks or Australia.”I can't see that's enforceable.
This is the key bit isn’t it?
speaking on The Breakdown on Monday, Moana Pasifika general manager Kevin Senio said 80 percent of the players on the franchise’s roster will need to eligible or available to play for Samoa, Tonga, Fiji or any other Pacific nation.
That would leave eight players within the franchise’s 38-man squad available to play for the All Blacks, Wallabies or any other test nation.So maybe he is part of the 20%? I don’t see any problem here.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks 2023:
@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2023:
Speaking on The Breakdown on Monday, Moana Pasifika general manager Kevin Senio said 80 percent of the players on the franchise’s roster will need to eligible or available to play for Samoa, Tonga, Fiji or any other Pacific nation.
That would leave eight players within the franchise’s 38-man squad available to play for the All Blacks, Wallabies or any other test nation.
“What we’ve done is we’ve used the New Zealand model and flipped it on its head,” Senio, who played one test for the All Blacks in 2005, said.
“So, 80 percent of the team have to be eligible and/or have played for Samoa or Tonga and/or Fiji – any of the Pasifika teams.
“For those who are going to be aligning themselves into Moana Pasifika, you can’t play for the All Blacks or Australia.”I can't see that's enforceable.
This is the key bit isn’t it?
speaking on The Breakdown on Monday, Moana Pasifika general manager Kevin Senio said 80 percent of the players on the franchise’s roster will need to eligible or available to play for Samoa, Tonga, Fiji or any other Pacific nation.
That would leave eight players within the franchise’s 38-man squad available to play for the All Blacks, Wallabies or any other test nation.So maybe he is part of the 20%? I don’t see any problem here.
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2023:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2023:
@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2023:
Speaking on The Breakdown on Monday, Moana Pasifika general manager Kevin Senio said 80 percent of the players on the franchise’s roster will need to eligible or available to play for Samoa, Tonga, Fiji or any other Pacific nation.
That would leave eight players within the franchise’s 38-man squad available to play for the All Blacks, Wallabies or any other test nation.
“What we’ve done is we’ve used the New Zealand model and flipped it on its head,” Senio, who played one test for the All Blacks in 2005, said.
“So, 80 percent of the team have to be eligible and/or have played for Samoa or Tonga and/or Fiji – any of the Pasifika teams.
“For those who are going to be aligning themselves into Moana Pasifika, you can’t play for the All Blacks or Australia.”I can't see that's enforceable.
This is the key bit isn’t it?
speaking on The Breakdown on Monday, Moana Pasifika general manager Kevin Senio said 80 percent of the players on the franchise’s roster will need to eligible or available to play for Samoa, Tonga, Fiji or any other Pacific nation.
That would leave eight players within the franchise’s 38-man squad available to play for the All Blacks, Wallabies or any other test nation.So maybe he is part of the 20%? I don’t see any problem here.
I wasn't speaking of Aumua specifically.
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LF is being aggressively courted by a number of top French clubs for a possibly lucrative deal. He is not signed beyond this year.
@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2023:
LF is being aggressively courted by a number of top French clubs for a possibly lucrative deal. He is not signed beyond this year.
I wonder how he is viewed by AB selectors, he'd probably do very well in France...
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@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2023:
LF is being aggressively courted by a number of top French clubs for a possibly lucrative deal. He is not signed beyond this year.
I wonder how he is viewed by AB selectors, he'd probably do very well in France...
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So, for some reason I can't help but feel weird about the current coaching setup given the saviour is taking over post world cup. How do you think this impacts Fozzie and the current crop? I honestly hope it gives them that extra motivation to say fuck you to all who doubt them or don't believe they are capable. I guess anything but winning the cup will be deemed a failure by his reign.
I wonder if Razor is secretly hoping they lose the WC as it would make his job a little harder taking over the world champions and trying to retain it. Thoughts?
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So, for some reason I can't help but feel weird about the current coaching setup given the saviour is taking over post world cup. How do you think this impacts Fozzie and the current crop? I honestly hope it gives them that extra motivation to say fuck you to all who doubt them or don't believe they are capable. I guess anything but winning the cup will be deemed a failure by his reign.
I wonder if Razor is secretly hoping they lose the WC as it would make his job a little harder taking over the world champions and trying to retain it. Thoughts?
@chimoaus said in All Blacks 2023:
I guess anything but winning the cup will be deemed a failure by his reign.
I wonder if Razor is secretly hoping they lose the WC as it would make his job a little harder taking over the world champions and trying to retain it.First point, Foster's reign, even if he wins the cup is a failure. He has broken too many long-held records of the ABs, once proudly held and never to get back. The ABs under him have been poor and we have seen no real change since late Hansen. Getting the cup would be awesome, but that doesn't wipe out the rest of the results.
Second, no way would Razor wish that, he's a true ABs man - that's pretty low.
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So, for some reason I can't help but feel weird about the current coaching setup given the saviour is taking over post world cup. How do you think this impacts Fozzie and the current crop? I honestly hope it gives them that extra motivation to say fuck you to all who doubt them or don't believe they are capable. I guess anything but winning the cup will be deemed a failure by his reign.
I wonder if Razor is secretly hoping they lose the WC as it would make his job a little harder taking over the world champions and trying to retain it. Thoughts?
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@chimoaus On one of his most recent interviews Scott says he will be travelling to France as a spectator. In that case you would wonder how closely he is working with the squad.
@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2023:
@chimoaus On one of his most recent interviews Scott says he will be travelling to France as a spectator. In that case you would wonder how closely he is working with the squad.
Not at all I hope, he needs to butt out until 29 October, or realistically the 15th
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@nostrildamus Financially it may make sense, so early in his All Black career which looks so promising it wouldn't.
@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2023:
@nostrildamus Financially it may make sense, so early in his All Black career which looks so promising it wouldn't.
I think LF will be right back in AB contention come 2024 if his form holds up.
Pretty Sure Razor would have a word in his ear to let him know if he has an AB chance after the WC. -
@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2023:
@chimoaus On one of his most recent interviews Scott says he will be travelling to France as a spectator. In that case you would wonder how closely he is working with the squad.
Not at all I hope, he needs to butt out until 29 October, or realistically the 15th
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:
@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2023:
@chimoaus On one of his most recent interviews Scott says he will be travelling to France as a spectator. In that case you would wonder how closely he is working with the squad.
Not at all I hope, he needs to butt out until 29 October, or realistically the 15th
Well away from the AB's not even near them.
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So, for some reason I can't help but feel weird about the current coaching setup given the saviour is taking over post world cup. How do you think this impacts Fozzie and the current crop? I honestly hope it gives them that extra motivation to say fuck you to all who doubt them or don't believe they are capable. I guess anything but winning the cup will be deemed a failure by his reign.
I wonder if Razor is secretly hoping they lose the WC as it would make his job a little harder taking over the world champions and trying to retain it. Thoughts?
@chimoaus said in All Blacks 2023:
I wonder if Razor is secretly hoping they lose the WC as it would make his job a little harder taking over the world champions and trying to retain it. Thoughts?
That is not Razor he was an AB he would never wish them to lose.Not in his nature.
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@chimoaus said in All Blacks 2023:
I wonder if Razor is secretly hoping they lose the WC as it would make his job a little harder taking over the world champions and trying to retain it. Thoughts?
That is not Razor he was an AB he would never wish them to lose.Not in his nature.
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@Chris Win or lose this WC with the amounts of retirements and players moving on etc Razor will be rebuilding the team either way.
He will be putting his stamp on it straight away@kidcalder said in All Blacks 2023:
@Chris Win or lose this WC with the amounts of retirements and players moving on etc Razor will be rebuilding the team either way.
He will be putting his stamp on it straight awayYes that is the Razor way.
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@Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:
@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2023:
@chimoaus On one of his most recent interviews Scott says he will be travelling to France as a spectator. In that case you would wonder how closely he is working with the squad.
Not at all I hope, he needs to butt out until 29 October, or realistically the 15th
Well away from the AB's not even near them.
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@Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:
"There are not many success stories among scrumhalves over six feet tall."
Is that a subtle dig at TJP?!
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@chimoaus said in All Blacks 2023:
I guess anything but winning the cup will be deemed a failure by his reign.
I wonder if Razor is secretly hoping they lose the WC as it would make his job a little harder taking over the world champions and trying to retain it.First point, Foster's reign, even if he wins the cup is a failure. He has broken too many long-held records of the ABs, once proudly held and never to get back. The ABs under him have been poor and we have seen no real change since late Hansen. Getting the cup would be awesome, but that doesn't wipe out the rest of the results.
Second, no way would Razor wish that, he's a true ABs man - that's pretty low.
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:
The ABs under him have been poor and we have seen no real change since late Hansen.
Not sure Hansen would start JB on the wing...
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So, for some reason I can't help but feel weird about the current coaching setup given the saviour is taking over post world cup. How do you think this impacts Fozzie and the current crop? I honestly hope it gives them that extra motivation to say fuck you to all who doubt them or don't believe they are capable. I guess anything but winning the cup will be deemed a failure by his reign.
I wonder if Razor is secretly hoping they lose the WC as it would make his job a little harder taking over the world champions and trying to retain it. Thoughts?
@chimoaus said in All Blacks 2023:
So, for some reason I can't help but feel weird about the current coaching setup given the saviour is taking over post world cup. How do you think this impacts Fozzie and the current crop? I honestly hope it gives them that extra motivation to say fuck you to all who doubt them or don't believe they are capable. I guess anything but winning the cup will be deemed a failure by his reign.
I wonder if Razor is secretly hoping they lose the WC as it would make his job a little harder taking over the world champions and trying to retain it. Thoughts?
I think his mindset would be to not waste time worrying about the things he has no control over and focus on the things he can control
