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    You can easily take different view points from stats. Even if they have a fact based argument I don't think the Warriors will get what they want from this. I think it is great a sponsor is calling it out, as if it was the team then they just fine you and nothing changes.

    Hopefully we don't see as many diabolical decisions happen and by unpopular opinion I think we still need the bunker which will annoy the fox crowd. I think NZ teams were worse off before it and it that it has pulled up many unconscious bias decisions that we always received but unfortunately it is still making many clangers. They need consistency applied here in my opinion.

    F&&K being a ref though

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      @canefan I'm surprised it's taken this long. Not surprised the NRL thinks they can review his comments and do anything about them other than reinforce his point.

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      @antipodean said in NRL 2023:

      @canefan I'm surprised it's taken this long. Not surprised the NRL thinks they can review his comments and do anything about them other than reinforce his point.

      The fact they even say they will review sets them up to look weak or stupid or both

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        You can easily take different view points from stats. Even if they have a fact based argument I don't think the Warriors will get what they want from this. I think it is great a sponsor is calling it out, as if it was the team then they just fine you and nothing changes.

        Hopefully we don't see as many diabolical decisions happen and by unpopular opinion I think we still need the bunker which will annoy the fox crowd. I think NZ teams were worse off before it and it that it has pulled up many unconscious bias decisions that we always received but unfortunately it is still making many clangers. They need consistency applied here in my opinion.

        F&&K being a ref though

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        @bayimports said in NRL 2023:

        You can easily take different view points from stats. Even if they have a fact based argument I don't think the Warriors will get what they want from this. I think it is great a sponsor is calling it out, as if it was the team then they just fine you and nothing changes.

        Hopefully we don't see as many diabolical decisions happen and by unpopular opinion I think we still need the bunker which will annoy the fox crowd. I think NZ teams were worse off before it and it that it has pulled up many unconscious bias decisions that we always received but unfortunately it is still making many clangers. They need consistency applied here in my opinion.

        F&&K being a ref though

        Consistency is all we want. But we are the most screwed over team in the comp right now. Anyone with eyes and a half functioning brain can see that

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        • canefanC canefan

          @antipodean said in NRL 2023:

          @canefan I'm surprised it's taken this long. Not surprised the NRL thinks they can review his comments and do anything about them other than reinforce his point.

          The fact they even say they will review sets them up to look weak or stupid or both

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          @canefan said in NRL 2023:

          @antipodean said in NRL 2023:

          @canefan I'm surprised it's taken this long. Not surprised the NRL thinks they can review his comments and do anything about them other than reinforce his point.

          The fact they even say they will review sets them up to look weak or stupid or both

          actually they are reviewing to see if they can legally take action against him, not reviewing the content

          https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/referees-union-weighs-up-legal-action-against-warriors-sponsor-20230508-p5d6on.html

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            Someone should be making a video highlighting all of the decisions that have gone against the Warriors compared to other teams. Jason Paris wouldn't have made his comments on a whim. I'm sure he spoke to Mark Robinson/Cameron George first.

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              @canefan said in NRL 2023:

              @antipodean said in NRL 2023:

              @canefan I'm surprised it's taken this long. Not surprised the NRL thinks they can review his comments and do anything about them other than reinforce his point.

              The fact they even say they will review sets them up to look weak or stupid or both

              actually they are reviewing to see if they can legally take action against him, not reviewing the content

              https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/referees-union-weighs-up-legal-action-against-warriors-sponsor-20230508-p5d6on.html

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              @bayimports said in NRL 2023:

              @canefan said in NRL 2023:

              @antipodean said in NRL 2023:

              @canefan I'm surprised it's taken this long. Not surprised the NRL thinks they can review his comments and do anything about them other than reinforce his point.

              The fact they even say they will review sets them up to look weak or stupid or both

              actually they are reviewing to see if they can legally take action against him, not reviewing the content

              https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/referees-union-weighs-up-legal-action-against-warriors-sponsor-20230508-p5d6on.html

              On what grounds? He doesn't work for them. I hope they make a deal of it. Might just raise awareness of the issue. They are the ones who have a case to answer. I'd like one of those Aussie league shows to go through all of our games, analyse and tally up all of the shonky decisions that go against us, along with shit that our opposition get away with. On TV

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              • canefanC canefan

                @bayimports said in NRL 2023:

                @canefan said in NRL 2023:

                @antipodean said in NRL 2023:

                @canefan I'm surprised it's taken this long. Not surprised the NRL thinks they can review his comments and do anything about them other than reinforce his point.

                The fact they even say they will review sets them up to look weak or stupid or both

                actually they are reviewing to see if they can legally take action against him, not reviewing the content

                https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/referees-union-weighs-up-legal-action-against-warriors-sponsor-20230508-p5d6on.html

                On what grounds? He doesn't work for them. I hope they make a deal of it. Might just raise awareness of the issue. They are the ones who have a case to answer. I'd like one of those Aussie league shows to go through all of our games, analyse and tally up all of the shonky decisions that go against us, along with shit that our opposition get away with. On TV

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                @canefan Cheating comes under defamation doesn't it? the article says this is what they are looking at anyway..I would be surprised if they go through with anything ..but there you go

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                  @canefan Cheating comes under defamation doesn't it? the article says this is what they are looking at anyway..I would be surprised if they go through with anything ..but there you go

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                  @bayimports said in NRL 2023:

                  @canefan Cheating comes under defamation doesn't it? the article says this is what they are looking at anyway..I would be surprised if they go through with anything ..but there you go

                  Yeah, they have nothing to gain, and much to lose. If he accused the refs of cheating he since revised that to bias. So they can suck it. If they didn't cheat so much they wouldn't have this problem 😉

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                    #342

                    Warriors lose.

                    Quick blame the refs.

                    Not a good look.

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                      Major sponsor tries to influence refereeing decisions ...

                      How is this at all acceptable?

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                      • boobooB booboo

                        Warriors lose.

                        Quick blame the refs.

                        Not a good look.

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                        @booboo Like don't get me wrong, the Storm game was just straight daylight robbery, but the last 2 games they've held their own, but been beaten by better opposition and had the odd call go against them but still had no bearing on the result.

                        I'd be more worried about scoring 6 points in the last 2 games than moaning about the refs.

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                          Major sponsor tries to influence refereeing decisions ...

                          How is this at all acceptable?

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                          @booboo said in NRL 2023:

                          Major sponsor tries to influence refereeing decisions ...

                          How is this at all acceptable?

                          Fuck em, I don't think you can watch most warriors games and not see that we almost always get screwed over in some manner. I'm fine with Paris speaking his mind and making them feel uncomfortable. If they want him to shut up they should do a better job of reffing consistently

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                            @booboo said in NRL 2023:

                            Major sponsor tries to influence refereeing decisions ...

                            How is this at all acceptable?

                            Fuck em, I don't think you can watch most warriors games and not see that we almost always get screwed over in some manner. I'm fine with Paris speaking his mind and making them feel uncomfortable. If they want him to shut up they should do a better job of reffing consistently

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                            @canefan said in NRL 2023:

                            @booboo said in NRL 2023:

                            Major sponsor tries to influence refereeing decisions ...

                            How is this at all acceptable?

                            Fuck em, I don't think you can watch most warriors games and not see that we almost always get screwed over in some manner. I'm fine with Paris speaking his mind and making them feel uncomfortable. If they want him to shut up they should do a better job of reffing consistently

                            More ex-warriors are weighing in, Monty Betham already called out the NRL weeks ago

                            https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/warriors/131983412/too-many-referee-decisions-going-against-warriors-club-greats-claim

                            The NRL counter by sending the token Mozzie on the reffing panel, to tell us we shouldn't believe what we see, there is no bias

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                              Warriors lose.

                              Quick blame the refs.

                              Not a good look.

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                              @booboo it has grabbed alot of coverage on MSM in NZ too, they did a whole piece on it this morning on NEwshub, interviewed a ref, had the CEO on yesterday.

                              I dont watch alot of league, but thier refs to seem to be held a bit more accountable to poor performances than thier rugby counterparts, but I would say neither code has refs that 'cheat'.

                              https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2023/05/nrl-warriors-player-turned-referee-henry-perenara-says-sponsor-s-boss-crossed-line.html

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                                @booboo it has grabbed alot of coverage on MSM in NZ too, they did a whole piece on it this morning on NEwshub, interviewed a ref, had the CEO on yesterday.

                                I dont watch alot of league, but thier refs to seem to be held a bit more accountable to poor performances than thier rugby counterparts, but I would say neither code has refs that 'cheat'.

                                https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2023/05/nrl-warriors-player-turned-referee-henry-perenara-says-sponsor-s-boss-crossed-line.html

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                                @taniwharugby said in NRL 2023:

                                @booboo it has grabbed alot of coverage on MSM in NZ too, they did a whole piece on it this morning on NEwshub, interviewed a ref, had the CEO on yesterday.

                                I dont watch alot of league, but thier refs to seem to be held a bit more accountable to poor performances than thier rugby counterparts, but I would say neither code has refs that 'cheat'.

                                Paris did change his terms to "unconscious bias", which I guess is a polite way of saying "conscious bias". Good point made by one of the front people on TV3 this morning, making on field decisions is one thing, getting fucked over by the bunker is something I don't think they can defend

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                                  @taniwharugby said in NRL 2023:

                                  @booboo it has grabbed alot of coverage on MSM in NZ too, they did a whole piece on it this morning on NEwshub, interviewed a ref, had the CEO on yesterday.

                                  I dont watch alot of league, but thier refs to seem to be held a bit more accountable to poor performances than thier rugby counterparts, but I would say neither code has refs that 'cheat'.

                                  Paris did change his terms to "unconscious bias", which I guess is a polite way of saying "conscious bias". Good point made by one of the front people on TV3 this morning, making on field decisions is one thing, getting fucked over by the bunker is something I don't think they can defend

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                                  @canefan which is no different to rugbys TMO getting it wrong too, which happens....

                                  Warriors fans = SA Rugby fans?

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                                    @canefan which is no different to rugbys TMO getting it wrong too, which happens....

                                    Warriors fans = SA Rugby fans?

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                                    @taniwharugby said in NRL 2023:

                                    @canefan which is no different to rugbys TMO getting it wrong too, which happens....

                                    Warriors fans = SA Rugby fans?

                                    I assume you watch the games? It is hard not to adopt a victim's mentality, league is easier to officiate than union and some of the clangers have been disgraceful and match defining. If you didn't watch, I'd suggest you watch the Storm ANZAC game which was one of the worst. It doesn't always make us lose per se, but it is difficult to build momentum when you are getting penalised mostly one way

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                                      @canefan said in NRL 2023:

                                      @booboo said in NRL 2023:

                                      Major sponsor tries to influence refereeing decisions ...

                                      How is this at all acceptable?

                                      Fuck em, I don't think you can watch most warriors games and not see that we almost always get screwed over in some manner. I'm fine with Paris speaking his mind and making them feel uncomfortable. If they want him to shut up they should do a better job of reffing consistently

                                      More ex-warriors are weighing in, Monty Betham already called out the NRL weeks ago

                                      https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/warriors/131983412/too-many-referee-decisions-going-against-warriors-club-greats-claim

                                      The NRL counter by sending the token Mozzie on the reffing panel, to tell us we shouldn't believe what we see, there is no bias

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                                      @canefan I wouldn't listen to what Monty Betham has to say haha. He may as well be in the cheerleading team he's that biased, along with the rest of them.

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                                        @canefan I wouldn't listen to what Monty Betham has to say haha. He may as well be in the cheerleading team he's that biased, along with the rest of them.

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                                        @African-Monkey said in NRL 2023:

                                        @canefan I wouldn't listen to what Monty Betham has to say haha. He may as well be in the cheerleading team he's that biased, along with the rest of them.

                                        Watch the games and judge for yourself. I saw an aussie news outlet article on FB about it. The feedback overwhelmingly agreed that the warriors get the short end of the wedge most of the time

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                                          any game day thread on social media is packed with non-warriors supporters pointing out inconsistencies.

                                          We did not lose to Penrith because of the ref. In fact we still could have won had SJ not made a couple of massive blunders. But it is very hard to watch that game and think the two teams, in key moments, were not looked in differently.

                                          It's not some grand conspiracy, i reckon it's just the same shit we see in different codes. Good teams get the rub of the green, and we're not a good team yet. And making a shit call against the Warriors leads to far less heat than say binning a Panthers player in a shock loss.

                                          The Melbourne game was a fucking stitch up though.

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