NRL 2023 + Internationals
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@bayimports said in NRL 2023:
@antipodean said in NRL 2023:
@canefan I'm surprised it's taken this long. Not surprised the NRL thinks they can review his comments and do anything about them other than reinforce his point.
The fact they even say they will review sets them up to look weak or stupid or both
actually they are reviewing to see if they can legally take action against him, not reviewing the content
On what grounds? He doesn't work for them. I hope they make a deal of it. Might just raise awareness of the issue. They are the ones who have a case to answer. I'd like one of those Aussie league shows to go through all of our games, analyse and tally up all of the shonky decisions that go against us, along with shit that our opposition get away with. On TV
@canefan Cheating comes under defamation doesn't it? the article says this is what they are looking at anyway..I would be surprised if they go through with anything ..but there you go
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@canefan Cheating comes under defamation doesn't it? the article says this is what they are looking at anyway..I would be surprised if they go through with anything ..but there you go
@bayimports said in NRL 2023:
@canefan Cheating comes under defamation doesn't it? the article says this is what they are looking at anyway..I would be surprised if they go through with anything ..but there you go
Yeah, they have nothing to gain, and much to lose. If he accused the refs of cheating he since revised that to bias. So they can suck it. If they didn't cheat so much they wouldn't have this problem
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@booboo Like don't get me wrong, the Storm game was just straight daylight robbery, but the last 2 games they've held their own, but been beaten by better opposition and had the odd call go against them but still had no bearing on the result.
I'd be more worried about scoring 6 points in the last 2 games than moaning about the refs.
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Major sponsor tries to influence refereeing decisions ...
How is this at all acceptable?
Fuck em, I don't think you can watch most warriors games and not see that we almost always get screwed over in some manner. I'm fine with Paris speaking his mind and making them feel uncomfortable. If they want him to shut up they should do a better job of reffing consistently
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Major sponsor tries to influence refereeing decisions ...
How is this at all acceptable?
Fuck em, I don't think you can watch most warriors games and not see that we almost always get screwed over in some manner. I'm fine with Paris speaking his mind and making them feel uncomfortable. If they want him to shut up they should do a better job of reffing consistently
Major sponsor tries to influence refereeing decisions ...
How is this at all acceptable?
Fuck em, I don't think you can watch most warriors games and not see that we almost always get screwed over in some manner. I'm fine with Paris speaking his mind and making them feel uncomfortable. If they want him to shut up they should do a better job of reffing consistently
More ex-warriors are weighing in, Monty Betham already called out the NRL weeks ago
The NRL counter by sending the token Mozzie on the reffing panel, to tell us we shouldn't believe what we see, there is no bias
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@booboo it has grabbed alot of coverage on MSM in NZ too, they did a whole piece on it this morning on NEwshub, interviewed a ref, had the CEO on yesterday.
I dont watch alot of league, but thier refs to seem to be held a bit more accountable to poor performances than thier rugby counterparts, but I would say neither code has refs that 'cheat'.
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@booboo it has grabbed alot of coverage on MSM in NZ too, they did a whole piece on it this morning on NEwshub, interviewed a ref, had the CEO on yesterday.
I dont watch alot of league, but thier refs to seem to be held a bit more accountable to poor performances than thier rugby counterparts, but I would say neither code has refs that 'cheat'.
@taniwharugby said in NRL 2023:
@booboo it has grabbed alot of coverage on MSM in NZ too, they did a whole piece on it this morning on NEwshub, interviewed a ref, had the CEO on yesterday.
I dont watch alot of league, but thier refs to seem to be held a bit more accountable to poor performances than thier rugby counterparts, but I would say neither code has refs that 'cheat'.
Paris did change his terms to "unconscious bias", which I guess is a polite way of saying "conscious bias". Good point made by one of the front people on TV3 this morning, making on field decisions is one thing, getting fucked over by the bunker is something I don't think they can defend
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@taniwharugby said in NRL 2023:
@booboo it has grabbed alot of coverage on MSM in NZ too, they did a whole piece on it this morning on NEwshub, interviewed a ref, had the CEO on yesterday.
I dont watch alot of league, but thier refs to seem to be held a bit more accountable to poor performances than thier rugby counterparts, but I would say neither code has refs that 'cheat'.
Paris did change his terms to "unconscious bias", which I guess is a polite way of saying "conscious bias". Good point made by one of the front people on TV3 this morning, making on field decisions is one thing, getting fucked over by the bunker is something I don't think they can defend
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@canefan which is no different to rugbys TMO getting it wrong too, which happens....
Warriors fans = SA Rugby fans?
@taniwharugby said in NRL 2023:
@canefan which is no different to rugbys TMO getting it wrong too, which happens....
Warriors fans = SA Rugby fans?
I assume you watch the games? It is hard not to adopt a victim's mentality, league is easier to officiate than union and some of the clangers have been disgraceful and match defining. If you didn't watch, I'd suggest you watch the Storm ANZAC game which was one of the worst. It doesn't always make us lose per se, but it is difficult to build momentum when you are getting penalised mostly one way
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Major sponsor tries to influence refereeing decisions ...
How is this at all acceptable?
Fuck em, I don't think you can watch most warriors games and not see that we almost always get screwed over in some manner. I'm fine with Paris speaking his mind and making them feel uncomfortable. If they want him to shut up they should do a better job of reffing consistently
More ex-warriors are weighing in, Monty Betham already called out the NRL weeks ago
The NRL counter by sending the token Mozzie on the reffing panel, to tell us we shouldn't believe what we see, there is no bias
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@canefan I wouldn't listen to what Monty Betham has to say haha. He may as well be in the cheerleading team he's that biased, along with the rest of them.
@African-Monkey said in NRL 2023:
@canefan I wouldn't listen to what Monty Betham has to say haha. He may as well be in the cheerleading team he's that biased, along with the rest of them.
Watch the games and judge for yourself. I saw an aussie news outlet article on FB about it. The feedback overwhelmingly agreed that the warriors get the short end of the wedge most of the time
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any game day thread on social media is packed with non-warriors supporters pointing out inconsistencies.
We did not lose to Penrith because of the ref. In fact we still could have won had SJ not made a couple of massive blunders. But it is very hard to watch that game and think the two teams, in key moments, were not looked in differently.
It's not some grand conspiracy, i reckon it's just the same shit we see in different codes. Good teams get the rub of the green, and we're not a good team yet. And making a shit call against the Warriors leads to far less heat than say binning a Panthers player in a shock loss.
The Melbourne game was a fucking stitch up though.
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any game day thread on social media is packed with non-warriors supporters pointing out inconsistencies.
We did not lose to Penrith because of the ref. In fact we still could have won had SJ not made a couple of massive blunders. But it is very hard to watch that game and think the two teams, in key moments, were not looked in differently.
It's not some grand conspiracy, i reckon it's just the same shit we see in different codes. Good teams get the rub of the green, and we're not a good team yet. And making a shit call against the Warriors leads to far less heat than say binning a Panthers player in a shock loss.
The Melbourne game was a fucking stitch up though.
@mariner4life said in NRL 2023:
It's not some grand conspiracy, i reckon it's just the same shit we see in different codes. Good teams get the rub of the green, and we're not a good team yet. And making a shit call against the Warriors leads to far less heat than say binning a Panthers player in a shock loss.
absolutely Warriors fans are just playing the Sticky role of calling it out. Consistency needs to be applied but I dont think its a warriors specific thing either
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@mariner4life said in NRL 2023:
It's not some grand conspiracy, i reckon it's just the same shit we see in different codes. Good teams get the rub of the green, and we're not a good team yet. And making a shit call against the Warriors leads to far less heat than say binning a Panthers player in a shock loss.
absolutely Warriors fans are just playing the Sticky role of calling it out. Consistency needs to be applied but I dont think its a warriors specific thing either
@bayimports said in NRL 2023:
@mariner4life said in NRL 2023:
It's not some grand conspiracy, i reckon it's just the same shit we see in different codes. Good teams get the rub of the green, and we're not a good team yet. And making a shit call against the Warriors leads to far less heat than say binning a Panthers player in a shock loss.
absolutely Warriors fans are just playing the Sticky role of calling it out. Consistency needs to be applied but I dont think its a warriors specific thing either
But we are on the bottom of the rung as far as benefit of the doubt is concerned. Every team gets the rub of the green against us
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@African-Monkey said in NRL 2023:
@canefan I wouldn't listen to what Monty Betham has to say haha. He may as well be in the cheerleading team he's that biased, along with the rest of them.
Watch the games and judge for yourself. I saw an aussie news outlet article on FB about it. The feedback overwhelmingly agreed that the warriors get the short end of the wedge most of the time
@canefan I have, I watch a lot of league. As I said, the Storm game, yes, they were robbed by the officials. The Roosters and Panthers games - nah.
The warriors tried to out grind the Panthers who are the best defensive side in the comp led by Shaun Johnson who thought that trying to kick in behind To'o, Turuva and Edwards for most of it was the best way of winning the game which doesn't usually work as Turuva and To'o especially are the best wingers at getting their sides out of the danger zones in the comp. There was no variety to Johnson's kicking game and Penrith were happy to roll the sleeves up and defend for most of it against a side that lacks spark on attack. One thing Webster deserves credit on is that he has got the Warriors fighting and they look fitter than previous seasons, they're just limited, which is understandable given their roster. Johnson also made a howler after the Curran break where he grubbered the ball dead when there were better options.
Their lack of options on attack was the Warriors problem in the last 2 weeks, not the refs like the fans and media are making it out to be.
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@canefan I have, I watch a lot of league. As I said, the Storm game, yes, they were robbed by the officials. The Roosters and Panthers games - nah.
The warriors tried to out grind the Panthers who are the best defensive side in the comp led by Shaun Johnson who thought that trying to kick in behind To'o, Turuva and Edwards for most of it was the best way of winning the game which doesn't usually work as Turuva and To'o especially are the best wingers at getting their sides out of the danger zones in the comp. There was no variety to Johnson's kicking game and Penrith were happy to roll the sleeves up and defend for most of it against a side that lacks spark on attack. One thing Webster deserves credit on is that he has got the Warriors fighting and they look fitter than previous seasons, they're just limited, which is understandable given their roster. Johnson also made a howler after the Curran break where he grubbered the ball dead when there were better options.
Their lack of options on attack was the Warriors problem in the last 2 weeks, not the refs like the fans and media are making it out to be.
@African-Monkey said in NRL 2023:
not the refs like the fans and media are making it out to be.
this is disengenious. No fans think we lost to the Panthers because of the ref. They certainly didn't help though
We were opening the Panthers at will in the first half because we passed the ball. That is the key to beating the panthers, move the ball and don't allow their middle linespeed to swallow you.
Fatigue set in, and we went one out
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@African-Monkey said in NRL 2023:
not the refs like the fans and media are making it out to be.
this is disengenious. No fans think we lost to the Panthers because of the ref. They certainly didn't help though
We were opening the Panthers at will in the first half because we passed the ball. That is the key to beating the panthers, move the ball and don't allow their middle linespeed to swallow you.
Fatigue set in, and we went one out
@mariner4life said in NRL 2023:
@African-Monkey said in NRL 2023:
not the refs like the fans and media are making it out to be.
this is disengenious. No fans think we lost to the Panthers because of the ref. They certainly didn't help though
We were opening the Panthers at will in the first half because we passed the ball. That is the key to beating the panthers, move the ball and don't allow their middle linespeed to swallow you.
Fatigue set in, and we went one out
I was at the Roosters game. We didn't do enough with the ball when we were hot on attack. But it's all the little calls they got that add up to making the game harder than it should be
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Finishing a game with fit players seems to be the biggest headache. That probably makes those ref calls feel worse when you're hanging by a thread. This leads to change in game plan and game management.
I do agree though that although SJs kick chase is second to none, his execution in direction and length has not been great in the last two weeks for short and long options and for his effort Dylan Walker hasn't really provided any creative alternative either, putting more pressure on SJ.
Will be interesting if we have a new half this week and Walker back to rotating role which he is good at.
