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AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    That's sad news - one of my favourite players growing up.

    It's pretty grainy and you need to pretty much frame by frame it to see what happens - but, here's the famous (non) penalty try incident in the 4th test vs SA (at 5.15).

    Using the modern "take Oosthuizen out of the play" protocol, no-one else will stop him scoring.

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      Loved his play at centre 2 moments I saw him do live will always live in my memory, just flashes from games.
      1 He was playing for Counties againsr Wellington in 197somthing at Atjletic park, he was mremirising, and will always remeber him coming down sideline at full pace, without slowing he centre kicked for one of his team mates, and put the ball on a dime under goal post, another try Counties won by about 50 that day , and he was a big part of reason.
      2 Also Athletic Park test against Lions (1977) he was drifting across in defence, can't remember which Lions received ball, and as Robertson was going in for tackle he passed to another Lion with a huge overlap coming up, Robertson accelerated onto the reciver and hit him beautifully, ball popped up and Grant Batty got it and scored!
      Will always remember both things I was just blown away.

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      • Dan54D Dan54

        Loved his play at centre 2 moments I saw him do live will always live in my memory, just flashes from games.
        1 He was playing for Counties againsr Wellington in 197somthing at Atjletic park, he was mremirising, and will always remeber him coming down sideline at full pace, without slowing he centre kicked for one of his team mates, and put the ball on a dime under goal post, another try Counties won by about 50 that day , and he was a big part of reason.
        2 Also Athletic Park test against Lions (1977) he was drifting across in defence, can't remember which Lions received ball, and as Robertson was going in for tackle he passed to another Lion with a huge overlap coming up, Robertson accelerated onto the reciver and hit him beautifully, ball popped up and Grant Batty got it and scored!
        Will always remember both things I was just blown away.

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        @Dan54 Here you go, Dan - at 19.04

        The thing I remember most about that try was how fast Andy Irvine was running Batty down.

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          Oh damn, that sucks. The finest player to come out of Hastings Boys and might be the finest to play for Counties (I'll leave that for the Counties guys to debate that).

          Moe mai ra.

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          • Chris B.C Chris B.

            @Dan54 Here you go, Dan - at 19.04

            The thing I remember most about that try was how fast Andy Irvine was running Batty down.

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            @Chris-B Lol funny mate I remember Graham Price almost running him down too. Mind you Batty was crocked by then, was going to retire but talked out of it , was so good at throwing ball into lineout forwards didn't want him to go. And I thought Irvine shouldn't of been up in line anyway, I always came away from game remembering they had an overlap without him being there. Mind you just things that went through my mind.

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            • Dan54D Dan54

              @Chris-B Lol funny mate I remember Graham Price almost running him down too. Mind you Batty was crocked by then, was going to retire but talked out of it , was so good at throwing ball into lineout forwards didn't want him to go. And I thought Irvine shouldn't of been up in line anyway, I always came away from game remembering they had an overlap without him being there. Mind you just things that went through my mind.

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              @Dan54 Ha - I'm old enough to have thrown into a few lineouts from the wing as a kid - initially with the two-handed between the legs lob - and a bit later basically sort of bowling offspin - torpedo style - with my hand wrapped around the ball because it wasn't big enough to grip it.

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              • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                @Billsy111 Yep, best AB Centre ever in my opinion. Think Conrad's smarts, timing, decision making and step with Riko's pace and you have Bruce Robertson.

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                @Daffy-Jaffy said in AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP:

                Think Conrad's smarts, timing, decision making and step with Reiko's pace and you have Bruce Robertson.

                Summed him up perfectly but I'd add his kicking ability as well.

                Probably the best AB 13 I've seen.

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                • Chris B.C Chris B.

                  @Dan54 Ha - I'm old enough to have thrown into a few lineouts from the wing as a kid - initially with the two-handed between the legs lob - and a bit later basically sort of bowling offspin - torpedo style - with my hand wrapped around the ball because it wasn't big enough to grip it.

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                  @Chris-B Haha mate, how we played the game huh? Wingers throwing in no lifting etc etc.

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                    @Chris-B Haha mate, how we played the game huh? Wingers throwing in no lifting etc etc.

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                    @Dan54 That 1976 tour reminds me of how the likes of JJ Stewart hadn't yet appreciated the importance of goal kicking - the Jaapies were well ahead of us in picking Gerald Bosch.

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                      Possible future father in law mentioned what amazing player this guy was, thats generally an indication he could play ( in amongst griping that todays guys spend too much time in the gym and not enough on basic skills )

                      Apparently Robertson was dropped for not being a punishing tackler at one stage ? Who of that era was though ?

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                      • Chris B.C Chris B.

                        @Dan54 That 1976 tour reminds me of how the likes of JJ Stewart hadn't yet appreciated the importance of goal kicking - the Jaapies were well ahead of us in picking Gerald Bosch.

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                        @Chris-B said in AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP:

                        @Dan54 That 1976 tour reminds me of how the likes of JJ Stewart hadn't yet appreciated the importance of goal kicking - the Jaapies were well ahead of us in picking Gerald Bosch.

                        Cough. Cough. Don Clarke. Cough.

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                          Possible future father in law mentioned what amazing player this guy was, thats generally an indication he could play ( in amongst griping that todays guys spend too much time in the gym and not enough on basic skills )

                          Apparently Robertson was dropped for not being a punishing tackler at one stage ? Who of that era was though ?

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                          @MN5 said in AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP:

                          Apparently Robertson was dropped for not being a punishing tackler at one stage ? Who of that era was thought ?

                          Fascinating, didn't know that. Any idea when that was?

                          Remember reading in one of Terry McLean's books that Robertson was regarded as being a pretty fearless tackler and not afraid to mix it and there was a worry that as a key player he'd get injured.

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                          • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                            @MN5 said in AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP:

                            Apparently Robertson was dropped for not being a punishing tackler at one stage ? Who of that era was thought ?

                            Fascinating, didn't know that. Any idea when that was?

                            Remember reading in one of Terry McLean's books that Robertson was regarded as being a pretty fearless tackler and not afraid to mix it and there was a worry that as a key player he'd get injured.

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                            @Victor-Meldrew said in AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP:

                            @MN5 said in AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP:

                            Apparently Robertson was dropped for not being a punishing tackler at one stage ? Who of that era was thought ?

                            Fascinating, didn't know that. Any idea when that was?

                            Remember reading in one of Terry McLean's books that Robertson was regarded as being a pretty fearless tackler and not afraid to mix it and there was a worry that as a key player he'd get injured.

                            I’ll have go over todays internet history to find it !

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                              @Victor-Meldrew said in AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP:

                              @MN5 said in AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP:

                              Apparently Robertson was dropped for not being a punishing tackler at one stage ? Who of that era was thought ?

                              Fascinating, didn't know that. Any idea when that was?

                              Remember reading in one of Terry McLean's books that Robertson was regarded as being a pretty fearless tackler and not afraid to mix it and there was a worry that as a key player he'd get injured.

                              I’ll have go over todays internet history to find it !

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                              @MN5
                              Ta. Genuinely interested.

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                                @MN5
                                Ta. Genuinely interested.

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                                @Victor-Meldrew said in AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP:

                                @MN5
                                Ta. Genuinely interested.

                                Oh you’re being serious ?

                                There it is, 0.22 in the video shared by @Daffy-Jaffy

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                                • CatograndeC Catogrande

                                  @Chris-B said in AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP:

                                  @Dan54 That 1976 tour reminds me of how the likes of JJ Stewart hadn't yet appreciated the importance of goal kicking - the Jaapies were well ahead of us in picking Gerald Bosch.

                                  Cough. Cough. Don Clarke. Cough.

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                                  @Catogrande said in AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP:

                                  @Chris-B said in AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP:

                                  @Dan54 That 1976 tour reminds me of how the likes of JJ Stewart hadn't yet appreciated the importance of goal kicking - the Jaapies were well ahead of us in picking Gerald Bosch.

                                  Cough. Cough. Don Clarke. Cough.

                                  We'd forgotten.

                                  Our test goal-kickers on that tour were Williams and Going, who were pretty much 30 percent men by today's standards.

                                  Laurie Mains was the only decent kicker on the tour, but was perceived to be too slow in general play and Kit Fawcett - better kicker than the other two, but too flaky.

                                  A while ago I re-read one of Terry McLean's books where he put up some kicking stats for Don. He's miles short of good modern kickers.

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                                    @Catogrande said in AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP:

                                    @Chris-B said in AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP:

                                    @Dan54 That 1976 tour reminds me of how the likes of JJ Stewart hadn't yet appreciated the importance of goal kicking - the Jaapies were well ahead of us in picking Gerald Bosch.

                                    Cough. Cough. Don Clarke. Cough.

                                    We'd forgotten.

                                    Our test goal-kickers on that tour were Williams and Going, who were pretty much 30 percent men by today's standards.

                                    Laurie Mains was the only decent kicker on the tour, but was perceived to be too slow in general play and Kit Fawcett - better kicker than the other two, but too flaky.

                                    A while ago I re-read one of Terry McLean's books where he put up some kicking stats for Don. He's miles short of good modern kickers.

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                                    • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                      @Catogrande said in AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP:

                                      @Chris-B said in AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP:

                                      @Dan54 That 1976 tour reminds me of how the likes of JJ Stewart hadn't yet appreciated the importance of goal kicking - the Jaapies were well ahead of us in picking Gerald Bosch.

                                      Cough. Cough. Don Clarke. Cough.

                                      We'd forgotten.

                                      Our test goal-kickers on that tour were Williams and Going, who were pretty much 30 percent men by today's standards.

                                      Laurie Mains was the only decent kicker on the tour, but was perceived to be too slow in general play and Kit Fawcett - better kicker than the other two, but too flaky.

                                      A while ago I re-read one of Terry McLean's books where he put up some kicking stats for Don. He's miles short of good modern kickers.

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                                      @Chris-B said in [AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP]

                                      A while ago I re-read one of Terry McLean's books where he put up some kicking stats for Don. He's miles short of good modern kickers.

                                      Were the balls as consistent in Don's day?

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                                        @Chris-B said in [AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP]

                                        A while ago I re-read one of Terry McLean's books where he put up some kicking stats for Don. He's miles short of good modern kickers.

                                        Were the balls as consistent in Don's day?

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                                        @nostrildamus said in AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP:

                                        @Chris-B said in [AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP]

                                        A while ago I re-read one of Terry McLean's books where he put up some kicking stats for Don. He's miles short of good modern kickers.

                                        Were the balls as consistent in Don's day?

                                        Heavy when wet

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                                          Amazing player , in the days when backline play was less about physicality, he was beautiful to watch ,

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