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AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP

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    Oh damn, that sucks. The finest player to come out of Hastings Boys and might be the finest to play for Counties (I'll leave that for the Counties guys to debate that).

    Moe mai ra.

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    • Chris B.C Chris B.

      @Dan54 Here you go, Dan - at 19.04

      The thing I remember most about that try was how fast Andy Irvine was running Batty down.

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      @Chris-B Lol funny mate I remember Graham Price almost running him down too. Mind you Batty was crocked by then, was going to retire but talked out of it , was so good at throwing ball into lineout forwards didn't want him to go. And I thought Irvine shouldn't of been up in line anyway, I always came away from game remembering they had an overlap without him being there. Mind you just things that went through my mind.

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      • Dan54D Dan54

        @Chris-B Lol funny mate I remember Graham Price almost running him down too. Mind you Batty was crocked by then, was going to retire but talked out of it , was so good at throwing ball into lineout forwards didn't want him to go. And I thought Irvine shouldn't of been up in line anyway, I always came away from game remembering they had an overlap without him being there. Mind you just things that went through my mind.

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        @Dan54 Ha - I'm old enough to have thrown into a few lineouts from the wing as a kid - initially with the two-handed between the legs lob - and a bit later basically sort of bowling offspin - torpedo style - with my hand wrapped around the ball because it wasn't big enough to grip it.

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        • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

          @Billsy111 Yep, best AB Centre ever in my opinion. Think Conrad's smarts, timing, decision making and step with Riko's pace and you have Bruce Robertson.

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          @Daffy-Jaffy said in AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP:

          Think Conrad's smarts, timing, decision making and step with Reiko's pace and you have Bruce Robertson.

          Summed him up perfectly but I'd add his kicking ability as well.

          Probably the best AB 13 I've seen.

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          • Chris B.C Chris B.

            @Dan54 Ha - I'm old enough to have thrown into a few lineouts from the wing as a kid - initially with the two-handed between the legs lob - and a bit later basically sort of bowling offspin - torpedo style - with my hand wrapped around the ball because it wasn't big enough to grip it.

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            @Chris-B Haha mate, how we played the game huh? Wingers throwing in no lifting etc etc.

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              @Chris-B Haha mate, how we played the game huh? Wingers throwing in no lifting etc etc.

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              @Dan54 That 1976 tour reminds me of how the likes of JJ Stewart hadn't yet appreciated the importance of goal kicking - the Jaapies were well ahead of us in picking Gerald Bosch.

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                Possible future father in law mentioned what amazing player this guy was, thats generally an indication he could play ( in amongst griping that todays guys spend too much time in the gym and not enough on basic skills )

                Apparently Robertson was dropped for not being a punishing tackler at one stage ? Who of that era was though ?

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                • Chris B.C Chris B.

                  @Dan54 That 1976 tour reminds me of how the likes of JJ Stewart hadn't yet appreciated the importance of goal kicking - the Jaapies were well ahead of us in picking Gerald Bosch.

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                  @Chris-B said in AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP:

                  @Dan54 That 1976 tour reminds me of how the likes of JJ Stewart hadn't yet appreciated the importance of goal kicking - the Jaapies were well ahead of us in picking Gerald Bosch.

                  Cough. Cough. Don Clarke. Cough.

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                  • MN5M MN5

                    Possible future father in law mentioned what amazing player this guy was, thats generally an indication he could play ( in amongst griping that todays guys spend too much time in the gym and not enough on basic skills )

                    Apparently Robertson was dropped for not being a punishing tackler at one stage ? Who of that era was though ?

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                    @MN5 said in AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP:

                    Apparently Robertson was dropped for not being a punishing tackler at one stage ? Who of that era was thought ?

                    Fascinating, didn't know that. Any idea when that was?

                    Remember reading in one of Terry McLean's books that Robertson was regarded as being a pretty fearless tackler and not afraid to mix it and there was a worry that as a key player he'd get injured.

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                    • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                      @MN5 said in AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP:

                      Apparently Robertson was dropped for not being a punishing tackler at one stage ? Who of that era was thought ?

                      Fascinating, didn't know that. Any idea when that was?

                      Remember reading in one of Terry McLean's books that Robertson was regarded as being a pretty fearless tackler and not afraid to mix it and there was a worry that as a key player he'd get injured.

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                      @Victor-Meldrew said in AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP:

                      @MN5 said in AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP:

                      Apparently Robertson was dropped for not being a punishing tackler at one stage ? Who of that era was thought ?

                      Fascinating, didn't know that. Any idea when that was?

                      Remember reading in one of Terry McLean's books that Robertson was regarded as being a pretty fearless tackler and not afraid to mix it and there was a worry that as a key player he'd get injured.

                      I’ll have go over todays internet history to find it !

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                      • MN5M MN5

                        @Victor-Meldrew said in AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP:

                        @MN5 said in AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP:

                        Apparently Robertson was dropped for not being a punishing tackler at one stage ? Who of that era was thought ?

                        Fascinating, didn't know that. Any idea when that was?

                        Remember reading in one of Terry McLean's books that Robertson was regarded as being a pretty fearless tackler and not afraid to mix it and there was a worry that as a key player he'd get injured.

                        I’ll have go over todays internet history to find it !

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                        @MN5
                        Ta. Genuinely interested.

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                        • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                          @MN5
                          Ta. Genuinely interested.

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                          @Victor-Meldrew said in AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP:

                          @MN5
                          Ta. Genuinely interested.

                          Oh you’re being serious ?

                          There it is, 0.22 in the video shared by @Daffy-Jaffy

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                          • CatograndeC Catogrande

                            @Chris-B said in AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP:

                            @Dan54 That 1976 tour reminds me of how the likes of JJ Stewart hadn't yet appreciated the importance of goal kicking - the Jaapies were well ahead of us in picking Gerald Bosch.

                            Cough. Cough. Don Clarke. Cough.

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                            @Catogrande said in AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP:

                            @Chris-B said in AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP:

                            @Dan54 That 1976 tour reminds me of how the likes of JJ Stewart hadn't yet appreciated the importance of goal kicking - the Jaapies were well ahead of us in picking Gerald Bosch.

                            Cough. Cough. Don Clarke. Cough.

                            We'd forgotten.

                            Our test goal-kickers on that tour were Williams and Going, who were pretty much 30 percent men by today's standards.

                            Laurie Mains was the only decent kicker on the tour, but was perceived to be too slow in general play and Kit Fawcett - better kicker than the other two, but too flaky.

                            A while ago I re-read one of Terry McLean's books where he put up some kicking stats for Don. He's miles short of good modern kickers.

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                              @Catogrande said in AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP:

                              @Chris-B said in AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP:

                              @Dan54 That 1976 tour reminds me of how the likes of JJ Stewart hadn't yet appreciated the importance of goal kicking - the Jaapies were well ahead of us in picking Gerald Bosch.

                              Cough. Cough. Don Clarke. Cough.

                              We'd forgotten.

                              Our test goal-kickers on that tour were Williams and Going, who were pretty much 30 percent men by today's standards.

                              Laurie Mains was the only decent kicker on the tour, but was perceived to be too slow in general play and Kit Fawcett - better kicker than the other two, but too flaky.

                              A while ago I re-read one of Terry McLean's books where he put up some kicking stats for Don. He's miles short of good modern kickers.

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                              • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                @Catogrande said in AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP:

                                @Chris-B said in AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP:

                                @Dan54 That 1976 tour reminds me of how the likes of JJ Stewart hadn't yet appreciated the importance of goal kicking - the Jaapies were well ahead of us in picking Gerald Bosch.

                                Cough. Cough. Don Clarke. Cough.

                                We'd forgotten.

                                Our test goal-kickers on that tour were Williams and Going, who were pretty much 30 percent men by today's standards.

                                Laurie Mains was the only decent kicker on the tour, but was perceived to be too slow in general play and Kit Fawcett - better kicker than the other two, but too flaky.

                                A while ago I re-read one of Terry McLean's books where he put up some kicking stats for Don. He's miles short of good modern kickers.

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                                @Chris-B said in [AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP]

                                A while ago I re-read one of Terry McLean's books where he put up some kicking stats for Don. He's miles short of good modern kickers.

                                Were the balls as consistent in Don's day?

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                                • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                  @Chris-B said in [AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP]

                                  A while ago I re-read one of Terry McLean's books where he put up some kicking stats for Don. He's miles short of good modern kickers.

                                  Were the balls as consistent in Don's day?

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                                  @nostrildamus said in AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP:

                                  @Chris-B said in [AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP]

                                  A while ago I re-read one of Terry McLean's books where he put up some kicking stats for Don. He's miles short of good modern kickers.

                                  Were the balls as consistent in Don's day?

                                  Heavy when wet

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                                    Amazing player , in the days when backline play was less about physicality, he was beautiful to watch ,

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                                      they mentioned on the news Robertson refused to play SA in '81 which effectively ended his career, which was something I didnt realise.

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                                      • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                        @Chris-B said in [AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP]

                                        A while ago I re-read one of Terry McLean's books where he put up some kicking stats for Don. He's miles short of good modern kickers.

                                        Were the balls as consistent in Don's day?

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                                        @nostrildamus Whether or not - McLean says that in his best years The Don was a 50% kicker.

                                        On his last tour, when his kicking faded, McLean counted 32 conversions and 41 misses, 18 penalties and 56 misses, 6 drop goals and 16 misses. 50/147 from place kicks.

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                                        • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                          @nostrildamus Whether or not - McLean says that in his best years The Don was a 50% kicker.

                                          On his last tour, when his kicking faded, McLean counted 32 conversions and 41 misses, 18 penalties and 56 misses, 6 drop goals and 16 misses. 50/147 from place kicks.

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                                          @Chris-B said in AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP:

                                          @nostrildamus Whether or not - McLean says that in his best years The Don was a 50% kicker.

                                          On his last tour, when his kicking faded, McLean counted 32 conversions and 41 misses, 18 penalties and 56 misses, 6 drop goals and 16 misses. 50/147 from place kicks.

                                          heavy (slippery when wet) leather and he kicked with his toe (I think they also held the ball for the player?) and he often kicked for mad distances (for the time) so that might need to be considered.

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