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AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP

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    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/100-greatest-all-blacks-bruce-robertson/JQUJFFZSU2HUVW6Z5CQKTRJE4Q/

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      Deer in sights: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/news/rugby-deer-now-target-for-ace-coach-taylor/QMJCZ33VYBJXNHLRIOJSVWDBKM/

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      • Chris B.C Chris B.

        @dogmeat Yeah - the loss of Karam was massive. We didn't really replace him adequately until the advent of Hewson.

        McLean says neither Laurie nor Fawcett should have been picked - he suggests Greg Rowlands (the little guy) and Bob Barrell would have been better options. McLean apparently couldn't stomach Fawcett and reckons none of the ABs could.

        He says towards the end of the tour Robertson rated as "the finest back in South Africa".

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        @Chris-B said in AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP:

        @dogmeat Yeah - the loss of Karam was massive. We didn't really replace him adequately until the advent of Hewson.

        McLean says neither Laurie nor Fawcett should have been picked - he suggests Greg Rowlands (the little guy) and Bob Barrell would have been better options. McLean apparently couldn't stomach Fawcett and reckons none of the ABs could.

        He says towards the end of the tour Robertson rated as "the finest back in South Africa".

        Never quite understood the karam switch to league , I mean he didn’t go to a cashed up Sydney club , he played for Glenora in Auckland, you wouldn’t have thought the money was that great.

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          @Chris-B said in AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP:

          @dogmeat Yeah - the loss of Karam was massive. We didn't really replace him adequately until the advent of Hewson.

          McLean says neither Laurie nor Fawcett should have been picked - he suggests Greg Rowlands (the little guy) and Bob Barrell would have been better options. McLean apparently couldn't stomach Fawcett and reckons none of the ABs could.

          He says towards the end of the tour Robertson rated as "the finest back in South Africa".

          Never quite understood the karam switch to league , I mean he didn’t go to a cashed up Sydney club , he played for Glenora in Auckland, you wouldn’t have thought the money was that great.

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          @kiwiinmelb said in AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP:

          Never quite understood the karam switch to league , I mean he didn’t go to a cashed up Sydney club , he played for Glenora in Auckland, you wouldn’t have thought the money was that great.

          IIRC correctly, he was pissed off with the way he was treated by the NZRFU money-wise and was actually losing money playing rugby and suffering financially. Batty mentions some of the shit players of that period put up with in his book.

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            @kiwiinmelb said in AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP:

            Never quite understood the karam switch to league , I mean he didn’t go to a cashed up Sydney club , he played for Glenora in Auckland, you wouldn’t have thought the money was that great.

            IIRC correctly, he was pissed off with the way he was treated by the NZRFU money-wise and was actually losing money playing rugby and suffering financially. Batty mentions some of the shit players of that period put up with in his book.

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            @Victor-Meldrew said in AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP:

            @kiwiinmelb said in AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP:

            Never quite understood the karam switch to league , I mean he didn’t go to a cashed up Sydney club , he played for Glenora in Auckland, you wouldn’t have thought the money was that great.

            IIRC correctly, he was pissed off with the way he was treated by the NZRFU money-wise and was actually losing money playing rugby and suffering financially. Batty mentions some of the shit players of that period put up with in his book.

            I thought it must’ve been something like that , Auckland league club, although it was a fairly healthy competition with all Nz’s best players playing there , were not exactly wealthy

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              I saw that on the brief set of clips shown on The Breakdown for BR they showed the Hika Reid try that we can't find on YT. At the start.
              That was a phenomenal try for those days. Look at the wave of players offering support on the break. Offloading, two hand carries, support lines....

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                I saw that on the brief set of clips shown on The Breakdown for BR they showed the Hika Reid try that we can't find on YT. At the start.
                That was a phenomenal try for those days. Look at the wave of players offering support on the break. Offloading, two hand carries, support lines....

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                @Crucial said in AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP:

                That was a phenomenal try for those days. Look at the wave of players offering support on the break. Offloading, two hand carries, support lines....

                I think the modern game is way better than the old days, but that sort of try was a lot more common than you'd think. From 1964 AB v Barbarians. Watch the try from 2:12 as an example.

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                • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                  @Crucial said in AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP:

                  That was a phenomenal try for those days. Look at the wave of players offering support on the break. Offloading, two hand carries, support lines....

                  I think the modern game is way better than the old days, but that sort of try was a lot more common than you'd think. From 1964 AB v Barbarians. Watch the try from 2:12 as an example.

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                  @Victor-Meldrew Countless examples from the 67 Tour as well.

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                    @Chris-B fairly sure Clarke was the heaviest AB in the team including all the forwards !

                    Protein, Creatine and other “supplements” have definitely changed things a bit in recent times. Robertson being 86kg at 186cm seems bloody slim though even for then !

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                    @MN5 said in AB Great, Bruce Robertson - RIP:

                    @Chris-B fairly sure Clarke was the heaviest AB in the team including all the forwards !

                    Protein, Creatine and other “supplements” have definitely changed things a bit in recent times. Robertson being 86kg at 186cm seems bloody slim though even for then !

                    He was tall for the time and probably above average in weight ,

                    I remember as a kid I used to look at their stats when the team was announced, and distinctly remember Robertson being listed as 6 foot one and over 13 stone and thinking that is actually on the bigger side of things , so many of the backs then were 12 and a half stone of thereabouts .

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                      Livestream of funeral.

                      https://www.dils.co.nz/tributes/?funeral=DQWJY&fbclid=IwAR2Yta3FsVxkBK_CdFwdzCinGt2_MlN8m-Q0qdHAe2RcL5Qniu0AC_WGEVs

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                        Cheers Mike. I've watched quite a bit of that - a nice service, everyone speaking well and some funny stories.

                        His brother's story about the in and out on Bob Lendrum is a good one. BG just told the story about Gert having to live in SA.

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                          I feel a bit bad about really enjoying these sorts of threads. Some great nostalgia, personal memories and you get to learn so much more about these guys. It’s just shitty that a great bloke has to die to start it off.

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                            I feel a bit bad about really enjoying these sorts of threads. Some great nostalgia, personal memories and you get to learn so much more about these guys. It’s just shitty that a great bloke has to die to start it off.

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                            @Catogrande dunno if it is enjoying, it is reminiscing and celebrating them, which is perfectly fine to do, although with his health issues of the past 4 or 5 years, it is good that he is finally out of pain.

                            Saw a post by Cricketer Joey Yovich on Bruce, and this paragraph made me smile:

                            I will never forget a particular sports festival day in the small town of Dargaville in Northland, where Bruce led a fun game of Rippa rugby with an enthusiastic group of young kids. Observing that one team was struggling, he selflessly joined their backline to even the odds. In a moment of grace and finesse, Bruce received the ball, effortlessly swerving past a couple of young defenders before setting up a young player on the wing for a try. After the match, as Bruce distributed gift packs to the kids, one of the opposing players upon receiving his pack, exclaimed, "Sir, you're a pretty good player. You could have been an All Black." Bruce in his unassuming and gentle way just smiled.

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