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EPL 2022 / 2023

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  • CyclopsC Offline
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    I see Sevilla bet AS Roma in the Europa League final. Remarkable record they have there - they've made the final 7 times since 2006 and won all of them. Are they the best not-quite-good club in Europe?

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      Remarkable record for Sevilla - 5 of the last 10 Europa Leagues won by them in a competition you have to qualify for by being good but not too good. In 3 of those 10 seasons they were in the last 16 of the UCL instead.

      Before this season, Sevilla have finished between 4th and 7th in La Liga for 9 consecutive seasons.

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        Counting next season 46 teams have appeared in the EPL. That's pretty good going as it's almost half the top 4 Divisions. Only 4 teams will have spent a single season in the PL and two of them will be Luton and Coventry.

        For all their successes and failures (noted by @Kiwipie above) Leicester have only spent 14 seasons at the top level which places them 14th equal on the appearances table.

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          Bordeaux-Rodez play-off in France called off after fan attacks player.

          https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65796112

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            Two down, one to go for Man City. And that's the big prize!

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            • dogmeatD dogmeat

              Counting next season 46 teams have appeared in the EPL. That's pretty good going as it's almost half the top 4 Divisions. Only 4 teams will have spent a single season in the PL and two of them will be Luton and Coventry.

              For all their successes and failures (noted by @Kiwipie above) Leicester have only spent 14 seasons at the top level which places them 14th equal on the appearances table.

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              @dogmeat said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

              Counting next season 46 teams have appeared in the EPL. That's pretty good going as it's almost half the top 4 Divisions. Only 4 teams will have spent a single season in the PL and two of them will be Luton and Coventry.

              For all their successes and failures (noted by @Kiwipie above) Leicester have only spent 14 seasons at the top level which places them 14th equal on the appearances table.

              Coventry were in the EPL for the first few years.

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                Bordeaux-Rodez play-off in France called off after fan attacks player.

                https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65796112

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                @sparky said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

                Bordeaux-Rodez play-off in France called off after fan attacks player.

                https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65796112

                They abandoned the match because a player got concussed?

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                • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

                  @dogmeat said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

                  Counting next season 46 teams have appeared in the EPL. That's pretty good going as it's almost half the top 4 Divisions. Only 4 teams will have spent a single season in the PL and two of them will be Luton and Coventry.

                  For all their successes and failures (noted by @Kiwipie above) Leicester have only spent 14 seasons at the top level which places them 14th equal on the appearances table.

                  Coventry were in the EPL for the first few years.

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                  #588

                  @KiwiPie sorry i meant to say this century.

                  I don't count LBF (League Before Fulham)

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                  • dogmeatD dogmeat

                    @KiwiPie sorry i meant to say this century.

                    I don't count LBF (League Before Fulham)

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                    @dogmeat said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

                    @KiwiPie sorry i meant to say this century.

                    I don't count LBF (League Before Fulham)

                    Is that 46 this century? How many in total?

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                    • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

                      @dogmeat said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

                      @KiwiPie sorry i meant to say this century.

                      I don't count LBF (League Before Fulham)

                      Is that 46 this century? How many in total?

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                      @KiwiPie OK I have updated my spreadsheet to include the seasons prior to 2000

                      There are now 51 teams that have featured in the EPL since its inception in 1992.

                      The five additions are
                      Barnsley (1 season)
                      Blackpool (1)
                      Bradford (2)
                      Sheffield Wednesday (8)
                      Swindon (1)

                      Here they all are with my arbitrary classification into bands

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                        #591

                        Ange Postecoglou seems to be firming as the new Spurs manager. It's quite the journey from the A-League.

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                          He has a pretty impressive record, will be interesting to see how he does. Wonder if he can do anything to keep Kane on board.

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                            He has a pretty impressive record, will be interesting to see how he does. Wonder if he can do anything to keep Kane on board.

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                            @Cyclops Are Spurs better off cashing in Kane for the rebuild project? FWIW that's Micah Richards opinion. I can see the logic.

                            Surely Kane has to go. What's in it for him staying at Spurs? Surely the best he could hope for is a Cup run? Kane should go somewhere he can win trophies.

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                              @Cyclops Are Spurs better off cashing in Kane for the rebuild project? FWIW that's Micah Richards opinion. I can see the logic.

                              Surely Kane has to go. What's in it for him staying at Spurs? Surely the best he could hope for is a Cup run? Kane should go somewhere he can win trophies.

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                              @dogmeat said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

                              @Cyclops Are Spurs better off cashing in Kane for the rebuild project? FWIW that's Micah Richards opinion. I can see the logic.

                              Surely Kane has to go. What's in it for him staying at Spurs? Surely the best he could hope for is a Cup run? Kane should go somewhere he can win trophies.

                              As a supporter I couldn't begrudge him wanting to leave to chase pots. But I'd prefer to send him to Real Madrid than for him to stay in the UK

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                              • CyclopsC Cyclops

                                He has a pretty impressive record, will be interesting to see how he does. Wonder if he can do anything to keep Kane on board.

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                                @Cyclops said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

                                He has a pretty impressive record, will be interesting to see how he does. Wonder if he can do anything to keep Kane on board.

                                He has a job to repair the morale and culture after the end of the Conte era. We have some good players who underachieved this year, so he needs to get them playing better. But Levy will need to give him some pieces, we need at least one CB and some FBs because last year we couldn't stop anyone

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                                  @dogmeat said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

                                  @Cyclops Are Spurs better off cashing in Kane for the rebuild project? FWIW that's Micah Richards opinion. I can see the logic.

                                  Surely Kane has to go. What's in it for him staying at Spurs? Surely the best he could hope for is a Cup run? Kane should go somewhere he can win trophies.

                                  As a supporter I couldn't begrudge him wanting to leave to chase pots. But I'd prefer to send him to Real Madrid than for him to stay in the UK

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                                  @canefan The only place he could go for trophies in England is Citeh and they already have their unstoppable goal-scoring cyborg. He goes to Man U and he gets a League or FA Cup each season - hardly a guarantee of "trophies". He couldn't possibly go to Arsenal and 'Pool don't play with a striker.

                                  His only option has to be overseas - BM or RM surely?

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                                    @canefan The only place he could go for trophies in England is Citeh and they already have their unstoppable goal-scoring cyborg. He goes to Man U and he gets a League or FA Cup each season - hardly a guarantee of "trophies". He couldn't possibly go to Arsenal and 'Pool don't play with a striker.

                                    His only option has to be overseas - BM or RM surely?

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                                    @junior said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

                                    @canefan The only place he could go for trophies in England is Citeh and they already have their unstoppable goal-scoring cyborg. He goes to Man U and he gets a League or FA Cup each season - hardly a guarantee of "trophies". He couldn't possibly go to Arsenal and 'Pool don't play with a striker.

                                    His only option has to be overseas - BM or RM surely?

                                    That's my feeling. RM love buying our best players

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                                      RM and Ancelotti want Kane so that's where he'll end up if Levy has his way.

                                      Kane wants Man U so he can break the EPL goal-scoring record.

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                                        I think "Big Ange" will want to play a high-paced pressing game with Spurs as opposed to their largely counter-attacking style of recent years. Not really sure Kane fits in with that system - he always seems to have had the freedom to do what he wants at Spurs rather than fitting into the system. Ange may see it as good business to take the money now rather than have the problem of losing him next summer.

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                                          I think "Big Ange" will want to play a high-paced pressing game with Spurs as opposed to their largely counter-attacking style of recent years. Not really sure Kane fits in with that system - he always seems to have had the freedom to do what he wants at Spurs rather than fitting into the system. Ange may see it as good business to take the money now rather than have the problem of losing him next summer.

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                                          @KiwiPie said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

                                          I think "Big Ange" will want to play a high-paced pressing game with Spurs as opposed to their largely counter-attacking style of recent years. Not really sure Kane fits in with that system - he always seems to have had the freedom to do what he wants at Spurs rather than fitting into the system. Ange may see it as good business to take the money now rather than have the problem of losing him next summer.

                                          Pochettino played that sort of system and Kane thrived. Much will hinge on whether Harry wants to go and if Ange sees him as someone to build around.

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