EPL 2022 / 2023
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Great day. Villa back playing European football. Didn't think I'd see the day after we've had some awful seasons over the last 13 years and even the start of this season. Really exciting to be there.
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So Leicester joins Blackburn Rovers in the exclusive club of 'EPL champions to have been relegated'.
I wonder how many times two former champions have been relegated is the same season.
@Cyclops said in EPL 2022 / 2023:
So Leicester joins Blackburn Rovers in the exclusive club of 'EPL champions to have been relegated'.
I wonder how many times two former champions have been relegated is the same season.
Since KP is too lazy
here's a couple of Wiki sites that show it's happened quite frequently even since the EPL existed.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_football_champions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Premier_League_seasons
At a glance, I think 96-97, 98-99, 01-02, 02-03, 03-04......
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It is indeed very frequent. Special mention to 01/02 and 03/04 where all three relegated teams were champions (although both years one of the relegated teams were Leicester who hadn't won one yet).
I only looked back to the start of the EPL, but it's actually more common to have former champions relegated than not! In 31 seasons only 6 years have no champions relegated. 13 seasons have one relegated 10 have 2 and as mentioned above in two years all three were champions.
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Leicester have been a pretty good club to support this century
Won EPL title.
Won FA Cup
Won League Cup
Won Community Shield
Quarter finals of Champions League
Semi finals of Conference League
Twice promoted to the EPL
Once promoted from League 1
Relegated 3 times from the EPL
Relegated once from the championship.Perfect. Have to have the bad times to appreciate the good times.
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Remarkable record for Sevilla - 5 of the last 10 Europa Leagues won by them in a competition you have to qualify for by being good but not too good. In 3 of those 10 seasons they were in the last 16 of the UCL instead.
Before this season, Sevilla have finished between 4th and 7th in La Liga for 9 consecutive seasons.
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Counting next season 46 teams have appeared in the EPL. That's pretty good going as it's almost half the top 4 Divisions. Only 4 teams will have spent a single season in the PL and two of them will be Luton and Coventry.
For all their successes and failures (noted by @Kiwipie above) Leicester have only spent 14 seasons at the top level which places them 14th equal on the appearances table.
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Counting next season 46 teams have appeared in the EPL. That's pretty good going as it's almost half the top 4 Divisions. Only 4 teams will have spent a single season in the PL and two of them will be Luton and Coventry.
For all their successes and failures (noted by @Kiwipie above) Leicester have only spent 14 seasons at the top level which places them 14th equal on the appearances table.
@dogmeat said in EPL 2022 / 2023:
Counting next season 46 teams have appeared in the EPL. That's pretty good going as it's almost half the top 4 Divisions. Only 4 teams will have spent a single season in the PL and two of them will be Luton and Coventry.
For all their successes and failures (noted by @Kiwipie above) Leicester have only spent 14 seasons at the top level which places them 14th equal on the appearances table.
Coventry were in the EPL for the first few years.
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Bordeaux-Rodez play-off in France called off after fan attacks player.
@sparky said in EPL 2022 / 2023:
Bordeaux-Rodez play-off in France called off after fan attacks player.
They abandoned the match because a player got concussed?
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@dogmeat said in EPL 2022 / 2023:
Counting next season 46 teams have appeared in the EPL. That's pretty good going as it's almost half the top 4 Divisions. Only 4 teams will have spent a single season in the PL and two of them will be Luton and Coventry.
For all their successes and failures (noted by @Kiwipie above) Leicester have only spent 14 seasons at the top level which places them 14th equal on the appearances table.
Coventry were in the EPL for the first few years.
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@dogmeat said in EPL 2022 / 2023:
@KiwiPie sorry i meant to say this century.
I don't count LBF (League Before Fulham)
Is that 46 this century? How many in total?
@KiwiPie OK I have updated my spreadsheet to include the seasons prior to 2000
There are now 51 teams that have featured in the EPL since its inception in 1992.
The five additions are
Barnsley (1 season)
Blackpool (1)
Bradford (2)
Sheffield Wednesday (8)
Swindon (1)Here they all are with my arbitrary classification into bands
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He has a pretty impressive record, will be interesting to see how he does. Wonder if he can do anything to keep Kane on board.
@Cyclops Are Spurs better off cashing in Kane for the rebuild project? FWIW that's Micah Richards opinion. I can see the logic.
Surely Kane has to go. What's in it for him staying at Spurs? Surely the best he could hope for is a Cup run? Kane should go somewhere he can win trophies.
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@Cyclops Are Spurs better off cashing in Kane for the rebuild project? FWIW that's Micah Richards opinion. I can see the logic.
Surely Kane has to go. What's in it for him staying at Spurs? Surely the best he could hope for is a Cup run? Kane should go somewhere he can win trophies.
@dogmeat said in EPL 2022 / 2023:
@Cyclops Are Spurs better off cashing in Kane for the rebuild project? FWIW that's Micah Richards opinion. I can see the logic.
Surely Kane has to go. What's in it for him staying at Spurs? Surely the best he could hope for is a Cup run? Kane should go somewhere he can win trophies.
As a supporter I couldn't begrudge him wanting to leave to chase pots. But I'd prefer to send him to Real Madrid than for him to stay in the UK
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He has a pretty impressive record, will be interesting to see how he does. Wonder if he can do anything to keep Kane on board.
@Cyclops said in EPL 2022 / 2023:
He has a pretty impressive record, will be interesting to see how he does. Wonder if he can do anything to keep Kane on board.
He has a job to repair the morale and culture after the end of the Conte era. We have some good players who underachieved this year, so he needs to get them playing better. But Levy will need to give him some pieces, we need at least one CB and some FBs because last year we couldn't stop anyone
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@dogmeat said in EPL 2022 / 2023:
@Cyclops Are Spurs better off cashing in Kane for the rebuild project? FWIW that's Micah Richards opinion. I can see the logic.
Surely Kane has to go. What's in it for him staying at Spurs? Surely the best he could hope for is a Cup run? Kane should go somewhere he can win trophies.
As a supporter I couldn't begrudge him wanting to leave to chase pots. But I'd prefer to send him to Real Madrid than for him to stay in the UK
@canefan The only place he could go for trophies in England is Citeh and they already have their unstoppable goal-scoring cyborg. He goes to Man U and he gets a League or FA Cup each season - hardly a guarantee of "trophies". He couldn't possibly go to Arsenal and 'Pool don't play with a striker.
His only option has to be overseas - BM or RM surely?
