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EPL 2022 / 2023

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    Big Sam was an inspired signing at Leeds - not. Villa takes the last European spot.

    Expect to see Leicester's best players picked over.

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    • KiwiPieK Offline
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      #572

      Leicester were 5th, 5th and 8th in the past 3 seasons and started the season with no new signings and some players who expected not to be there. Tielemans was one of those and he hasn't been on it all season - a lot of their success was based on he and Ndidi shielding the defence. Expect to see both of those plus Madison and Barnes leave plus possibly a couple more if Leicester need to shake off some high earners.

      Leeds were just shambolic and I'm pleased the Big Sam gamble failed. If they can keep most of that squad together they will surely be promotion candidates next season - if they can find a manager to wrangle them into a formation.

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      • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

        Leicester were 5th, 5th and 8th in the past 3 seasons and started the season with no new signings and some players who expected not to be there. Tielemans was one of those and he hasn't been on it all season - a lot of their success was based on he and Ndidi shielding the defence. Expect to see both of those plus Madison and Barnes leave plus possibly a couple more if Leicester need to shake off some high earners.

        Leeds were just shambolic and I'm pleased the Big Sam gamble failed. If they can keep most of that squad together they will surely be promotion candidates next season - if they can find a manager to wrangle them into a formation.

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        @KiwiPie said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

        I'm pleased the Big Sam gamble failed

        oh shit me too

        His opening press conference was total cringe. The shit he spouts about how good he is, and the only reason he's not managing real madrid is he's English is fucking awful.

        Bye Sam

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        • CyclopsC Offline
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          #574

          So Leicester joins Blackburn Rovers in the exclusive club of 'EPL champions to have been relegated'.

          I wonder how many times two former champions have been relegated is the same season.

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            So Leicester joins Blackburn Rovers in the exclusive club of 'EPL champions to have been relegated'.

            I wonder how many times two former champions have been relegated is the same season.

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            #575

            @Cyclops Not about to do the research on that one sorry - must have happened before though with so many regularly relegated teams like Sunderland, Newcastle, Sheffield Wednesday, Burnley, Wolves, Huddersfield etc.

            Hard to beat Man City though - champions in 36/37, relegated in 37/38.

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              #576

              Top effort by Sean Dyche to save Everton.

              Everton vs Burnley next season could be spicy if Dyche remains in charge.

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                Great day. Villa back playing European football. Didn't think I'd see the day after we've had some awful seasons over the last 13 years and even the start of this season. Really exciting to be there.

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                • CyclopsC Cyclops

                  So Leicester joins Blackburn Rovers in the exclusive club of 'EPL champions to have been relegated'.

                  I wonder how many times two former champions have been relegated is the same season.

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                  @Cyclops said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

                  So Leicester joins Blackburn Rovers in the exclusive club of 'EPL champions to have been relegated'.

                  I wonder how many times two former champions have been relegated is the same season.

                  Since KP is too lazy 🙂 here's a couple of Wiki sites that show it's happened quite frequently even since the EPL existed.

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_football_champions

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Premier_League_seasons

                  At a glance, I think 96-97, 98-99, 01-02, 02-03, 03-04......

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                  • CyclopsC Offline
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                    It is indeed very frequent. Special mention to 01/02 and 03/04 where all three relegated teams were champions (although both years one of the relegated teams were Leicester who hadn't won one yet).

                    I only looked back to the start of the EPL, but it's actually more common to have former champions relegated than not! In 31 seasons only 6 years have no champions relegated. 13 seasons have one relegated 10 have 2 and as mentioned above in two years all three were champions.

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                    • KiwiPieK Offline
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                      Leicester have been a pretty good club to support this century
                      Won EPL title.
                      Won FA Cup
                      Won League Cup
                      Won Community Shield
                      Quarter finals of Champions League
                      Semi finals of Conference League
                      Twice promoted to the EPL
                      Once promoted from League 1
                      Relegated 3 times from the EPL
                      Relegated once from the championship.

                      Perfect. Have to have the bad times to appreciate the good times.

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                      • CyclopsC Offline
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                        #581

                        I see Sevilla bet AS Roma in the Europa League final. Remarkable record they have there - they've made the final 7 times since 2006 and won all of them. Are they the best not-quite-good club in Europe?

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                          Remarkable record for Sevilla - 5 of the last 10 Europa Leagues won by them in a competition you have to qualify for by being good but not too good. In 3 of those 10 seasons they were in the last 16 of the UCL instead.

                          Before this season, Sevilla have finished between 4th and 7th in La Liga for 9 consecutive seasons.

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                            Counting next season 46 teams have appeared in the EPL. That's pretty good going as it's almost half the top 4 Divisions. Only 4 teams will have spent a single season in the PL and two of them will be Luton and Coventry.

                            For all their successes and failures (noted by @Kiwipie above) Leicester have only spent 14 seasons at the top level which places them 14th equal on the appearances table.

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                              Bordeaux-Rodez play-off in France called off after fan attacks player.

                              https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65796112

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                                Two down, one to go for Man City. And that's the big prize!

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                                • dogmeatD dogmeat

                                  Counting next season 46 teams have appeared in the EPL. That's pretty good going as it's almost half the top 4 Divisions. Only 4 teams will have spent a single season in the PL and two of them will be Luton and Coventry.

                                  For all their successes and failures (noted by @Kiwipie above) Leicester have only spent 14 seasons at the top level which places them 14th equal on the appearances table.

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                                  @dogmeat said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

                                  Counting next season 46 teams have appeared in the EPL. That's pretty good going as it's almost half the top 4 Divisions. Only 4 teams will have spent a single season in the PL and two of them will be Luton and Coventry.

                                  For all their successes and failures (noted by @Kiwipie above) Leicester have only spent 14 seasons at the top level which places them 14th equal on the appearances table.

                                  Coventry were in the EPL for the first few years.

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                                    Bordeaux-Rodez play-off in France called off after fan attacks player.

                                    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65796112

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                                    @sparky said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

                                    Bordeaux-Rodez play-off in France called off after fan attacks player.

                                    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65796112

                                    They abandoned the match because a player got concussed?

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                                    • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

                                      @dogmeat said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

                                      Counting next season 46 teams have appeared in the EPL. That's pretty good going as it's almost half the top 4 Divisions. Only 4 teams will have spent a single season in the PL and two of them will be Luton and Coventry.

                                      For all their successes and failures (noted by @Kiwipie above) Leicester have only spent 14 seasons at the top level which places them 14th equal on the appearances table.

                                      Coventry were in the EPL for the first few years.

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                                      dogmeat
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                                      @KiwiPie sorry i meant to say this century.

                                      I don't count LBF (League Before Fulham)

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                                      • dogmeatD dogmeat

                                        @KiwiPie sorry i meant to say this century.

                                        I don't count LBF (League Before Fulham)

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                                        @dogmeat said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

                                        @KiwiPie sorry i meant to say this century.

                                        I don't count LBF (League Before Fulham)

                                        Is that 46 this century? How many in total?

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                                        • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

                                          @dogmeat said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

                                          @KiwiPie sorry i meant to say this century.

                                          I don't count LBF (League Before Fulham)

                                          Is that 46 this century? How many in total?

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                                          @KiwiPie OK I have updated my spreadsheet to include the seasons prior to 2000

                                          There are now 51 teams that have featured in the EPL since its inception in 1992.

                                          The five additions are
                                          Barnsley (1 season)
                                          Blackpool (1)
                                          Bradford (2)
                                          Sheffield Wednesday (8)
                                          Swindon (1)

                                          Here they all are with my arbitrary classification into bands

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