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EPL 2022 / 2023

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  • CyclopsC Offline
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    So Leicester joins Blackburn Rovers in the exclusive club of 'EPL champions to have been relegated'.

    I wonder how many times two former champions have been relegated is the same season.

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    • CyclopsC Cyclops

      So Leicester joins Blackburn Rovers in the exclusive club of 'EPL champions to have been relegated'.

      I wonder how many times two former champions have been relegated is the same season.

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      KiwiPie
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      #575

      @Cyclops Not about to do the research on that one sorry - must have happened before though with so many regularly relegated teams like Sunderland, Newcastle, Sheffield Wednesday, Burnley, Wolves, Huddersfield etc.

      Hard to beat Man City though - champions in 36/37, relegated in 37/38.

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        Top effort by Sean Dyche to save Everton.

        Everton vs Burnley next season could be spicy if Dyche remains in charge.

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          Great day. Villa back playing European football. Didn't think I'd see the day after we've had some awful seasons over the last 13 years and even the start of this season. Really exciting to be there.

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          • CyclopsC Cyclops

            So Leicester joins Blackburn Rovers in the exclusive club of 'EPL champions to have been relegated'.

            I wonder how many times two former champions have been relegated is the same season.

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            Chris B.
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            #578

            @Cyclops said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

            So Leicester joins Blackburn Rovers in the exclusive club of 'EPL champions to have been relegated'.

            I wonder how many times two former champions have been relegated is the same season.

            Since KP is too lazy 🙂 here's a couple of Wiki sites that show it's happened quite frequently even since the EPL existed.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_football_champions

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Premier_League_seasons

            At a glance, I think 96-97, 98-99, 01-02, 02-03, 03-04......

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            • CyclopsC Offline
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              It is indeed very frequent. Special mention to 01/02 and 03/04 where all three relegated teams were champions (although both years one of the relegated teams were Leicester who hadn't won one yet).

              I only looked back to the start of the EPL, but it's actually more common to have former champions relegated than not! In 31 seasons only 6 years have no champions relegated. 13 seasons have one relegated 10 have 2 and as mentioned above in two years all three were champions.

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              • KiwiPieK Offline
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                #580

                Leicester have been a pretty good club to support this century
                Won EPL title.
                Won FA Cup
                Won League Cup
                Won Community Shield
                Quarter finals of Champions League
                Semi finals of Conference League
                Twice promoted to the EPL
                Once promoted from League 1
                Relegated 3 times from the EPL
                Relegated once from the championship.

                Perfect. Have to have the bad times to appreciate the good times.

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                • CyclopsC Offline
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                  I see Sevilla bet AS Roma in the Europa League final. Remarkable record they have there - they've made the final 7 times since 2006 and won all of them. Are they the best not-quite-good club in Europe?

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                    Remarkable record for Sevilla - 5 of the last 10 Europa Leagues won by them in a competition you have to qualify for by being good but not too good. In 3 of those 10 seasons they were in the last 16 of the UCL instead.

                    Before this season, Sevilla have finished between 4th and 7th in La Liga for 9 consecutive seasons.

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                      Counting next season 46 teams have appeared in the EPL. That's pretty good going as it's almost half the top 4 Divisions. Only 4 teams will have spent a single season in the PL and two of them will be Luton and Coventry.

                      For all their successes and failures (noted by @Kiwipie above) Leicester have only spent 14 seasons at the top level which places them 14th equal on the appearances table.

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                        Bordeaux-Rodez play-off in France called off after fan attacks player.

                        https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65796112

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                          Bovidae
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                          Two down, one to go for Man City. And that's the big prize!

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                          • dogmeatD dogmeat

                            Counting next season 46 teams have appeared in the EPL. That's pretty good going as it's almost half the top 4 Divisions. Only 4 teams will have spent a single season in the PL and two of them will be Luton and Coventry.

                            For all their successes and failures (noted by @Kiwipie above) Leicester have only spent 14 seasons at the top level which places them 14th equal on the appearances table.

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                            KiwiPie
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                            @dogmeat said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

                            Counting next season 46 teams have appeared in the EPL. That's pretty good going as it's almost half the top 4 Divisions. Only 4 teams will have spent a single season in the PL and two of them will be Luton and Coventry.

                            For all their successes and failures (noted by @Kiwipie above) Leicester have only spent 14 seasons at the top level which places them 14th equal on the appearances table.

                            Coventry were in the EPL for the first few years.

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                            • sparkyS sparky

                              Bordeaux-Rodez play-off in France called off after fan attacks player.

                              https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65796112

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                              @sparky said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

                              Bordeaux-Rodez play-off in France called off after fan attacks player.

                              https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65796112

                              They abandoned the match because a player got concussed?

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                              • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

                                @dogmeat said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

                                Counting next season 46 teams have appeared in the EPL. That's pretty good going as it's almost half the top 4 Divisions. Only 4 teams will have spent a single season in the PL and two of them will be Luton and Coventry.

                                For all their successes and failures (noted by @Kiwipie above) Leicester have only spent 14 seasons at the top level which places them 14th equal on the appearances table.

                                Coventry were in the EPL for the first few years.

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                                dogmeat
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                                @KiwiPie sorry i meant to say this century.

                                I don't count LBF (League Before Fulham)

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                                • dogmeatD dogmeat

                                  @KiwiPie sorry i meant to say this century.

                                  I don't count LBF (League Before Fulham)

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                                  KiwiPie
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                                  @dogmeat said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

                                  @KiwiPie sorry i meant to say this century.

                                  I don't count LBF (League Before Fulham)

                                  Is that 46 this century? How many in total?

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                                  • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

                                    @dogmeat said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

                                    @KiwiPie sorry i meant to say this century.

                                    I don't count LBF (League Before Fulham)

                                    Is that 46 this century? How many in total?

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                                    dogmeat
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                                    @KiwiPie OK I have updated my spreadsheet to include the seasons prior to 2000

                                    There are now 51 teams that have featured in the EPL since its inception in 1992.

                                    The five additions are
                                    Barnsley (1 season)
                                    Blackpool (1)
                                    Bradford (2)
                                    Sheffield Wednesday (8)
                                    Swindon (1)

                                    Here they all are with my arbitrary classification into bands

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                                    • BovidaeB Offline
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                                      Bovidae
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                                      Ange Postecoglou seems to be firming as the new Spurs manager. It's quite the journey from the A-League.

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                                      • CyclopsC Offline
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                                        He has a pretty impressive record, will be interesting to see how he does. Wonder if he can do anything to keep Kane on board.

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                                        • CyclopsC Cyclops

                                          He has a pretty impressive record, will be interesting to see how he does. Wonder if he can do anything to keep Kane on board.

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                                          @Cyclops Are Spurs better off cashing in Kane for the rebuild project? FWIW that's Micah Richards opinion. I can see the logic.

                                          Surely Kane has to go. What's in it for him staying at Spurs? Surely the best he could hope for is a Cup run? Kane should go somewhere he can win trophies.

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