Best of all time?
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GOAT NZ
Peak player not longevityPaekak Ex
JK
Lomu
Bunce
Smokin J
Carter
Smith
ZZB
Kaino
McCaw
Retallick
Whitelock
O Brown
Coles
McDowell -
GOAT NZ
Peak player not longevityPaekak Ex
JK
Lomu
Bunce
Smokin J
Carter
Smith
ZZB
Kaino
McCaw
Retallick
Whitelock
O Brown
Coles
McDowellHard to disagree for a modern-ish era. I'd swap Nonu for Joe S though.
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@MiketheSnow said in Best of all time?:
@mariner4life said in Best of all time?:
if i am honest, if i stuck mine out in the wider public it would get just as torn to shreds as it is packed with kiwis. packed
If it included Fitzpatrick, Kaino, McCaw, Smith, Carter, Nonu, Lomu, Cullen you wouldn't get much pushback
No, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, not sure
@booboo said in Best of all time?:
@MiketheSnow said in Best of all time?:
@mariner4life said in Best of all time?:
if i am honest, if i stuck mine out in the wider public it would get just as torn to shreds as it is packed with kiwis. packed
If it included Fitzpatrick, Kaino, McCaw, Smith, Carter, Nonu, Lomu, Cullen you wouldn't get much pushback
No, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, not sure
8 names and 7 answers.....
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if i am honest, if i stuck mine out in the wider public it would get just as torn to shreds as it is packed with kiwis. packed
@mariner4life said in Best of all time?:
if i am honest, if i stuck mine out in the wider public it would get just as torn to shreds as it is packed with kiwis. packed
You can argue that Ian McGeechan agrees with you. He's picked his best ever and it's packed with Kiwis - packed.
https://www.ruck.co.uk/sir-ian-mcgeechan-picks-all-time-xv-includes-three-england-legends/
Lomu, Kirwan, Carter, Zinzan, McCaw, Fitzpatrick.
A few I'd swap - but, no duds in Ian's team - no Jaapies either. Can't say I remember much about Tom Smith.
I'd pick Danie Gerber over Brian and look at Oz du Randt vs Leonard.
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Cullen
Wilson
Bunce
Horan
Lomu
Carter
VdVH
Zinny
Richie
J Smith
Matfield
Johnson
Brown
Fitzy
Os dR -
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Cullen
Wilson
Bunce
Horan
Lomu
Carter
VdVH
Zinny
Richie
J Smith
Matfield
Johnson
Brown
Fitzy
Os dR@mariner4life said in Best of all time?:
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Cullen
Wilson
Bunce
Horan
Lomu
Carter
VdVH
Zinny
Richie
J Smith
Matfield
Johnson
Brown
Fitzy
Os dRChallenge would be a team willing to play that one!
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@mariner4life said in Best of all time?:
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Cullen
Wilson
Bunce
Horan
Lomu
Carter
VdVH
Zinny
Richie
J Smith
Matfield
Johnson
Brown
Fitzy
Os dRChallenge would be a team willing to play that one!
@Crucial said in Best of all time?:
@mariner4life said in Best of all time?:
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Cullen
Wilson
Bunce
Horan
Lomu
Carter
VdVH
Zinny
Richie
J Smith
Matfield
Johnson
Brown
Fitzy
Os dRChallenge would be a team willing to play that one!
First alternatives that spring to mind off the top of my head with no deep thought. All open to debate.
1 and 11 don't leap out at me - need to have a think.
Would give them a go though (until the two man advantage kicked in)
Blanco
Kirwan
O'Driscoll
Nonu
?
Wilkinson
Smith A
Read
Kaino
Smith G
Eales
Jones AW
Furlong
Wood
?(Lack of Jaaps though :face_with_diagonal_mouth: )
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Christian Cullen is the GOAT fullback.
Conrad 13, Read 8, Whitelock, Smith 9 won back to back world cups....
@Steve said in Best of all time?:
Christian Cullen is the GOAT fullback.
Conrad 13, Read 8, Whitelock, Smith 9 won back to back world cups....
smith didn't debut for the AB's till 2012.....
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A best ever bench players would be interesting.
Not just the next best players but players who delivered off of the bench.
Obviously this would be limited to the last 25 years or so.
From NZ the likes of Beauden, Faumuina, Weepu come to mind.
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A best ever bench players would be interesting.
Not just the next best players but players who delivered off of the bench.
Obviously this would be limited to the last 25 years or so.
From NZ the likes of Beauden, Faumuina, Weepu come to mind.
@KiwiMurph said in Best of all time?:
A best ever bench players would be interesting.
Not just the next best players but players who delivered off of the bench.
Obviously this would be limited to the last 25 years or so.
From NZ the likes of Beauden, Faumuina, Weepu come to mind.
Hi
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@mariner4life said in Best of all time?:
if i am honest, if i stuck mine out in the wider public it would get just as torn to shreds as it is packed with kiwis. packed
You can argue that Ian McGeechan agrees with you. He's picked his best ever and it's packed with Kiwis - packed.
https://www.ruck.co.uk/sir-ian-mcgeechan-picks-all-time-xv-includes-three-england-legends/
Lomu, Kirwan, Carter, Zinzan, McCaw, Fitzpatrick.
A few I'd swap - but, no duds in Ian's team - no Jaapies either. Can't say I remember much about Tom Smith.
I'd pick Danie Gerber over Brian and look at Oz du Randt vs Leonard.
@Chris-B said in Best of all time?:
Sir Ian McGeechan picks all-time XV - includes three England legends - Ruck
That isn't a bad list and I really like the way he considered loosie and centre combos.
Carter cancels Johnny out (have one or the other but I'd pick Carter as well), I wonder if Eales would be that rugged for the modern game, and I wonder if a French or Argentinian prop might get a look in. But not a horrible selection anywhere IMO. -
@Crucial said in Best of all time?:
@mariner4life said in Best of all time?:
for full transparency
Cullen
Wilson
Bunce
Horan
Lomu
Carter
VdVH
Zinny
Richie
J Smith
Matfield
Johnson
Brown
Fitzy
Os dRChallenge would be a team willing to play that one!
First alternatives that spring to mind off the top of my head with no deep thought. All open to debate.
1 and 11 don't leap out at me - need to have a think.
Would give them a go though (until the two man advantage kicked in)
Blanco
Kirwan
O'Driscoll
Nonu
?
Wilkinson
Smith A
Read
Kaino
Smith G
Eales
Jones AW
Furlong
Wood
?(Lack of Jaaps though :face_with_diagonal_mouth: )
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A best ever bench players would be interesting.
Not just the next best players but players who delivered off of the bench.
Obviously this would be limited to the last 25 years or so.
From NZ the likes of Beauden, Faumuina, Weepu come to mind.
@KiwiMurph said in Best of all time?:
A best ever bench players would be interesting.
Not just the next best players but players who delivered off of the bench.
Obviously this would be limited to the last 25 years or so.
From NZ the likes of Beauden, Faumuina, Weepu come to mind.
Kees Meeuws was one of the original bench impact players!
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@Steve said in Best of all time?:
Christian Cullen is the GOAT fullback.
Conrad 13, Read 8, Whitelock, Smith 9 won back to back world cups....
smith didn't debut for the AB's till 2012.....
@Kiwiwomble said in Best of all time?:
@Steve said in Best of all time?:
Christian Cullen is the GOAT fullback.
Conrad 13, Read 8, Whitelock, Smith 9 won back to back world cups....
smith didn't debut for the AB's till 2012.....
that is a good point well made sir.
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Right, Captains: In no particular order and excluding anyone before the late '70;s
Graham Mourie, Fitzy, Ritchie, David Kirk.
Ritchie & Mourie for me. Both took teams which were in a bad place and brought to the very top,
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Right, Captains: In no particular order and excluding anyone before the late '70;s
Graham Mourie, Fitzy, Ritchie, David Kirk.
Ritchie & Mourie for me. Both took teams which were in a bad place and brought to the very top,
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@Victor-Meldrew DC.
