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Best of all time?

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    mariner4life
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    #159

    for full transparency

    Cullen
    Wilson
    Bunce
    Horan
    Lomu
    Carter
    VdVH
    Zinny
    Richie
    J Smith
    Matfield
    Johnson
    Brown
    Fitzy
    Os dR

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    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

      for full transparency

      Cullen
      Wilson
      Bunce
      Horan
      Lomu
      Carter
      VdVH
      Zinny
      Richie
      J Smith
      Matfield
      Johnson
      Brown
      Fitzy
      Os dR

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      @mariner4life said in Best of all time?:

      for full transparency

      Cullen
      Wilson
      Bunce
      Horan
      Lomu
      Carter
      VdVH
      Zinny
      Richie
      J Smith
      Matfield
      Johnson
      Brown
      Fitzy
      Os dR

      Challenge would be a team willing to play that one!

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        Christian Cullen is the GOAT fullback.

        Conrad 13, Read 8, Whitelock, Smith 9 won back to back world cups....

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          Smokin Joe Rokocoko gets in mine.

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          • CrucialC Crucial

            @mariner4life said in Best of all time?:

            for full transparency

            Cullen
            Wilson
            Bunce
            Horan
            Lomu
            Carter
            VdVH
            Zinny
            Richie
            J Smith
            Matfield
            Johnson
            Brown
            Fitzy
            Os dR

            Challenge would be a team willing to play that one!

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            @Crucial said in Best of all time?:

            @mariner4life said in Best of all time?:

            for full transparency

            Cullen
            Wilson
            Bunce
            Horan
            Lomu
            Carter
            VdVH
            Zinny
            Richie
            J Smith
            Matfield
            Johnson
            Brown
            Fitzy
            Os dR

            Challenge would be a team willing to play that one!

            First alternatives that spring to mind off the top of my head with no deep thought. All open to debate.

            1 and 11 don't leap out at me - need to have a think.

            Would give them a go though (until the two man advantage kicked in)

            Blanco
            Kirwan
            O'Driscoll
            Nonu
            ?
            Wilkinson
            Smith A
            Read
            Kaino
            Smith G
            Eales
            Jones AW
            Furlong
            Wood
            ?

            (Lack of Jaaps though :face_with_diagonal_mouth: )

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            • S Steve

              Christian Cullen is the GOAT fullback.

              Conrad 13, Read 8, Whitelock, Smith 9 won back to back world cups....

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              @Steve said in Best of all time?:

              Christian Cullen is the GOAT fullback.

              Conrad 13, Read 8, Whitelock, Smith 9 won back to back world cups....

              smith didn't debut for the AB's till 2012.....

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              • KiwiMurphK Offline
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                A best ever bench players would be interesting.

                Not just the next best players but players who delivered off of the bench.

                Obviously this would be limited to the last 25 years or so.

                From NZ the likes of Beauden, Faumuina, Weepu come to mind.

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                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                  A best ever bench players would be interesting.

                  Not just the next best players but players who delivered off of the bench.

                  Obviously this would be limited to the last 25 years or so.

                  From NZ the likes of Beauden, Faumuina, Weepu come to mind.

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                  @KiwiMurph said in Best of all time?:

                  A best ever bench players would be interesting.

                  Not just the next best players but players who delivered off of the bench.

                  Obviously this would be limited to the last 25 years or so.

                  From NZ the likes of Beauden, Faumuina, Weepu come to mind.

                  Hi

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                  • Chris B.C Chris B.

                    @mariner4life said in Best of all time?:

                    if i am honest, if i stuck mine out in the wider public it would get just as torn to shreds as it is packed with kiwis. packed

                    You can argue that Ian McGeechan agrees with you. He's picked his best ever and it's packed with Kiwis - packed.

                    https://www.ruck.co.uk/sir-ian-mcgeechan-picks-all-time-xv-includes-three-england-legends/

                    Lomu, Kirwan, Carter, Zinzan, McCaw, Fitzpatrick.

                    A few I'd swap - but, no duds in Ian's team - no Jaapies either. Can't say I remember much about Tom Smith.

                    I'd pick Danie Gerber over Brian and look at Oz du Randt vs Leonard.

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                    @Chris-B said in Best of all time?:

                    Sir Ian McGeechan picks all-time XV - includes three England legends - Ruck

                    That isn't a bad list and I really like the way he considered loosie and centre combos.
                    Carter cancels Johnny out (have one or the other but I'd pick Carter as well), I wonder if Eales would be that rugged for the modern game, and I wonder if a French or Argentinian prop might get a look in. But not a horrible selection anywhere IMO.

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                    • boobooB booboo

                      @Crucial said in Best of all time?:

                      @mariner4life said in Best of all time?:

                      for full transparency

                      Cullen
                      Wilson
                      Bunce
                      Horan
                      Lomu
                      Carter
                      VdVH
                      Zinny
                      Richie
                      J Smith
                      Matfield
                      Johnson
                      Brown
                      Fitzy
                      Os dR

                      Challenge would be a team willing to play that one!

                      First alternatives that spring to mind off the top of my head with no deep thought. All open to debate.

                      1 and 11 don't leap out at me - need to have a think.

                      Would give them a go though (until the two man advantage kicked in)

                      Blanco
                      Kirwan
                      O'Driscoll
                      Nonu
                      ?
                      Wilkinson
                      Smith A
                      Read
                      Kaino
                      Smith G
                      Eales
                      Jones AW
                      Furlong
                      Wood
                      ?

                      (Lack of Jaaps though :face_with_diagonal_mouth: )

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                      @booboo Michael Jones at 7!

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                      • Chris B.C Chris B.

                        @booboo Michael Jones at 7!

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                        @Chris-B said in Best of all time?:

                        @booboo Michael Jones at 7!

                        Oops

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                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                          A best ever bench players would be interesting.

                          Not just the next best players but players who delivered off of the bench.

                          Obviously this would be limited to the last 25 years or so.

                          From NZ the likes of Beauden, Faumuina, Weepu come to mind.

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                          @KiwiMurph said in Best of all time?:

                          A best ever bench players would be interesting.

                          Not just the next best players but players who delivered off of the bench.

                          Obviously this would be limited to the last 25 years or so.

                          From NZ the likes of Beauden, Faumuina, Weepu come to mind.

                          Kees Meeuws was one of the original bench impact players!

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                          • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                            @Steve said in Best of all time?:

                            Christian Cullen is the GOAT fullback.

                            Conrad 13, Read 8, Whitelock, Smith 9 won back to back world cups....

                            smith didn't debut for the AB's till 2012.....

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                            @Kiwiwomble said in Best of all time?:

                            @Steve said in Best of all time?:

                            Christian Cullen is the GOAT fullback.

                            Conrad 13, Read 8, Whitelock, Smith 9 won back to back world cups....

                            smith didn't debut for the AB's till 2012.....

                            that is a good point well made sir.

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                              Right, Captains: In no particular order and excluding anyone before the late '70;s

                              Graham Mourie, Fitzy, Ritchie, David Kirk.

                              Ritchie & Mourie for me. Both took teams which were in a bad place and brought to the very top,

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                                Right, Captains: In no particular order and excluding anyone before the late '70;s

                                Graham Mourie, Fitzy, Ritchie, David Kirk.

                                Ritchie & Mourie for me. Both took teams which were in a bad place and brought to the very top,

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                                @Victor-Meldrew DC.

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                                  @Victor-Meldrew DC.

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                                  @Bones said in Best of all time?:

                                  @Victor-Meldrew DC.

                                  ?

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                                    @Bones said in Best of all time?:

                                    @Victor-Meldrew DC.

                                    ?

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                                    @Victor-Meldrew said in Best of all time?:

                                    @Bones said in Best of all time?:

                                    @Victor-Meldrew DC.

                                    ?

                                    Pretty sure he was a very successful captain

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                                      booboo
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                                      Paul Henderson

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                                      • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                        Right, Captains: In no particular order and excluding anyone before the late '70;s

                                        Graham Mourie, Fitzy, Ritchie, David Kirk.

                                        Ritchie & Mourie for me. Both took teams which were in a bad place and brought to the very top,

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                                        @Victor-Meldrew said in Best of all time?:

                                        Right, Captains: In no particular order and excluding anyone before the late '70;s

                                        Graham Mourie, Fitzy, Ritchie, David Kirk.

                                        Ritchie & Mourie for me. Both took teams which were in a bad place and brought to the very top,

                                        Buck?

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                                        • boobooB booboo

                                          @Victor-Meldrew said in Best of all time?:

                                          Right, Captains: In no particular order and excluding anyone before the late '70;s

                                          Graham Mourie, Fitzy, Ritchie, David Kirk.

                                          Ritchie & Mourie for me. Both took teams which were in a bad place and brought to the very top,

                                          Buck?

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                                          @booboo said in Best of all time?:

                                          Buck?

                                          Took over a winning team and did well. Just think Mourie & Ritche proved they could lead thru adversity as well as thru the good times.

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