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All Blacks 2023

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  • canefanC canefan

    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2023:

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2023:

    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

    Nick Bishop on the money again, but I think the real question is who should be back up? IN that case DMac at 23 and Beaudy Left Right Out Half

    https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/a-tale-of-two-flyhalves/

    You need a free account to read, and watch The Professors excellent video

    DMac has shown far better form in SR this year, coupled with a strong showing on tour at the end of last year. BB's play has fallen off a cliff by comparison

    dont forget though, he was world player of the year....6 years ago....so there is that

    I'm a big BB fan. But he's never been the same since he moved north just saying....

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    @canefan said in All Blacks 2023:

    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2023:

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2023:

    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

    Nick Bishop on the money again, but I think the real question is who should be back up? IN that case DMac at 23 and Beaudy Left Right Out Half

    https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/a-tale-of-two-flyhalves/

    You need a free account to read, and watch The Professors excellent video

    DMac has shown far better form in SR this year, coupled with a strong showing on tour at the end of last year. BB's play has fallen off a cliff by comparison

    dont forget though, he was world player of the year....6 years ago....so there is that

    I'm a big BB fan. But he's never been the same since he moved north just saying....

    so am i in general....but i do get more judgy when players seem to get treated like they can do no wrong....like we're not watching them and seeing it isn't true, his form has dropped or at least plateaued and yet the AB's still think he's untouchable

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    • BonesB Bones

      @canefan yeah, he was canes mabo eh, he probably woulda gone past Tana as the face of the canes in my head if he'd stayed.

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      @Bones said in All Blacks 2023:

      @canefan yeah, he was canes mabo eh, he probably woulda gone past Tana as the face of the canes in my head if he'd stayed.

      It's a hard road finding the perfect woman

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      • M Machpants

        Nick Bishop on the money again, but I think the real question is who should be back up? IN that case DMac at 23 and Beaudy Left Right Out Half

        https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/a-tale-of-two-flyhalves/

        You need a free account to read, and watch The Professors excellent video

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        #1775

        @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

        Nick Bishop on the money again, but I think the real question is who should be back up? IN that case DMac at 23 and Beaudy Left Right Out Half

        https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/a-tale-of-two-flyhalves/

        You need a free account to read, and watch The Professors excellent video

        Nice article - because it agrees with me πŸ™‚ - but, way more analysis on the minutiae of Richie's play.

        About the only think Nick Bishop has missed is analysis of the "thumb grip"! (2003 called and wants its joke back!).

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          The real question at 10 is Mounga or DMac.
          BB shouldn't even be in consideration.
          He can worry about trying to hold on to the 15 spot vs Jordan.

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          • F Frank

            The real question at 10 is Mounga or DMac.
            BB shouldn't even be in consideration.
            He can worry about trying to hold on to the 15 spot vs Jordan.

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            #1777

            @Frank well I always thought that anyway, unless something at training makes them think something different of course.

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              #1778

              Copied from the "Feed the backs" instagram, because embed doesn't work anymore:

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              feedthebacks For the stats nerds out there πŸ˜πŸ‡³πŸ‡Ώ

              Stats via @allblacks and @crusadersrugbyteam

              For those interested, the lightest ever All Blacks weighed 58.9kg (there were 3 of them: Merv Corner, Harry Nicholls and Alan Reid)

              Including these comments:

              8d035a51-44b1-4249-86ac-7b059fb362d5-image.png

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              • StargazerS Stargazer

                Copied from the "Feed the backs" instagram, because embed doesn't work anymore:

                c34dfbda-1561-4b45-a546-dcd155de1c00-image.png

                feedthebacks For the stats nerds out there πŸ˜πŸ‡³πŸ‡Ώ

                Stats via @allblacks and @crusadersrugbyteam

                For those interested, the lightest ever All Blacks weighed 58.9kg (there were 3 of them: Merv Corner, Harry Nicholls and Alan Reid)

                Including these comments:

                8d035a51-44b1-4249-86ac-7b059fb362d5-image.png

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                Bones
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                #1779

                @Stargazer that's funny after I saw a headline (probably by ruck) talking about how France might select some 140kg player and weirdly mentioned specifically the ABs should watch out.

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                • M Machpants

                  Nick Bishop on the money again, but I think the real question is who should be back up? IN that case DMac at 23 and Beaudy Left Right Out Half

                  https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/a-tale-of-two-flyhalves/

                  You need a free account to read, and watch The Professors excellent video

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                  @Machpants I just watched the Smith video - not surprisingly, he's bloody good - knows exactly what he wants and can see instantly what isn't right.

                  Right at the end, he's talking about letting the ball carrier manipulate the defence and the next receiver holding his line. Which put me in mind of a story Bruce Robertson's brother told at Bruce's funeral where they were playing two-aside rugby with their mates and Bruce's brother cut inside to take a pass. Bruce told him never to do that again because "the space is out there and I will put you in it".

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                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                    Copied from the "Feed the backs" instagram, because embed doesn't work anymore:

                    c34dfbda-1561-4b45-a546-dcd155de1c00-image.png

                    feedthebacks For the stats nerds out there πŸ˜πŸ‡³πŸ‡Ώ

                    Stats via @allblacks and @crusadersrugbyteam

                    For those interested, the lightest ever All Blacks weighed 58.9kg (there were 3 of them: Merv Corner, Harry Nicholls and Alan Reid)

                    Including these comments:

                    8d035a51-44b1-4249-86ac-7b059fb362d5-image.png

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                    #1781

                    @Stargazer Those posts by de Groot and Lomax are classics.

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                    • Chris B.C Chris B.

                      @Machpants I just watched the Smith video - not surprisingly, he's bloody good - knows exactly what he wants and can see instantly what isn't right.

                      Right at the end, he's talking about letting the ball carrier manipulate the defence and the next receiver holding his line. Which put me in mind of a story Bruce Robertson's brother told at Bruce's funeral where they were playing two-aside rugby with their mates and Bruce's brother cut inside to take a pass. Bruce told him never to do that again because "the space is out there and I will put you in it".

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                      Bones
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                      @Chris-B farrrrk I used to hate it when young wingers cut in on me.

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                      • BonesB Bones

                        @Chris-B farrrrk I used to hate it when young wingers cut in on me.

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                        Chris B.
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                        #1783

                        @Bones Probably a young wing somewhere talking about farking centres who think they can go around one more defender! πŸ™‚

                        I was quite impressed at a school kid already understanding that fundamental.

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                        • BonesB Bones

                          @Chris-B farrrrk I used to hate it when young wingers cut in on me.

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                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2023:

                          @Chris-B farrrrk I used to hate it when young wingers cut in on me at the school dance.

                          Fixed.

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                          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                            @Bones said in All Blacks 2023:

                            @Chris-B farrrrk I used to hate it when young wingers cut in on me at the school dance.

                            Fixed.

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                            Bones
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                            @KiwiMurph what's a school

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                            • BonesB Bones

                              @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2023:

                              My thinking is that he's the incumbent 15 - and that's where he will start off. If he's not there, in my mind he won't make the 23 because Mo'unga and DMac have both very clearly been much better at 10 than him this year.

                              Remember the hookers last year? I won't be in the last bit surprised if Barrett starts and DMac is lucky to make the bench.

                              And I expect @Victor-Meldrew to goddamn love every second of it if it happens.

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                              @Bones said in All Blacks 2023:

                              And I expect @Victor-Meldrew to goddamn love every second of it if it happens.

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                              Nah. Different situation - unlike at hooker last year, there's plenty of experienced players at 10 & 15, most in reasonable form. No need for Foster to be conservative, ease a relative newby in and hope form returns.

                              Give BB a run by all means but if it confirms his SR form (or lack thereof) then for me it's BB on the bench at best.

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                              • F Frank

                                The real question at 10 is Mounga or DMac.
                                BB shouldn't even be in consideration.
                                He can worry about trying to hold on to the 15 spot vs Jordan.

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                                Victor Meldrew
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                                @Frank said in All Blacks 2023:

                                He can worry about trying to hold on to the 15 spot vs Jordan.

                                Unless he excels in the one outing he'll inevitably get from Foster, he'll be worrying about his spot in the 23.

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                                • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                  @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

                                  Nick Bishop on the money again, but I think the real question is who should be back up? IN that case DMac at 23 and Beaudy Left Right Out Half

                                  https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/a-tale-of-two-flyhalves/

                                  You need a free account to read, and watch The Professors excellent video

                                  Nice article - because it agrees with me πŸ™‚ - but, way more analysis on the minutiae of Richie's play.

                                  About the only think Nick Bishop has missed is analysis of the "thumb grip"! (2003 called and wants its joke back!).

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                                  @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2023:

                                  Nice article - because it agrees with me - but, way more analysis on the minutiae of Richie's play.

                                  Ritchie's defence is way less revolving door these days too. Clear he's worked hard on that. Now if he could get his kicking up to DMac's standard...

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                                  • BonesB Bones

                                    @KiwiMurph what's a school

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                                    @Bones said in All Blacks 2023:

                                    @KiwiMurph what's a school

                                    Collection of fish.

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                                    • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                      @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2023:

                                      Nice article - because it agrees with me - but, way more analysis on the minutiae of Richie's play.

                                      Ritchie's defence is way less revolving door these days too. Clear he's worked hard on that. Now if he could get his kicking up to DMac's standard...

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                                      Bones
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                                      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2023:

                                      Ritchie's defence is way less revolving door these days too

                                      I'm not so convinced, I could be persuaded that he's maybe better at a covering tackle than he used to be, but he's typically 50/50 in the line (just off the eye test)

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                                        Jailbreak7
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                                        DMac doesn't lack for courage on D either. Throws himself about and not afraid to put his body on the line. Good to see.

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                                        • Jailbreak7J Jailbreak7

                                          DMac doesn't lack for courage on D either. Throws himself about and not afraid to put his body on the line. Good to see.

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                                          @Jailbreak7 said in All Blacks 2023:

                                          DMac doesn't lack for courage on D either. Throws himself about and not afraid to put his body on the line. Good to see.

                                          It's his technique which is great to watch.

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