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    https://www.theroar.com.au/2023/06/21/exclusive-rebels-sign-ex-all-blacks-gun-in-coup-as-brumbies-hang-on-to-wallaby/

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      https://www.theroar.com.au/2023/06/21/exclusive-rebels-sign-ex-all-blacks-gun-in-coup-as-brumbies-hang-on-to-wallaby/

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      @KiwiMurph whaaaattt, come back to the Canes Matty. At 30 he’d easily compete for an AB centre spot, especially with the guys running around atm. He was the best defensive centre in NZ when he left, was quality on attack too.

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      • frugbyF frugby

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        This is what I have across the board for 23/24. Keen to hear how correct this is/more info that can be added.

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        @frugby For the Chiefs, Sa is a lock. Cashmore is in the Blues WTG so more likely to be promoted there unless both Ioane and Reihana leave the Chiefs. It could be a LH and TH prop needed depending on what happens with Moli and Profitt.

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          This is what I have across the board for 23/24. Keen to hear how correct this is/more info that can be added.

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          @frugby where did you find confirmation of Blackwell and Prinsep leaving?

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          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

            @frugby where did you find confirmation of Blackwell and Prinsep leaving?

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            @Canes4life I was wondering the same thing and I follow things closely.

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            • StargazerS Stargazer

              @Canes4life I was wondering the same thing and I follow things closely.

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              @Stargazer

              Bower the same not sure that is correct either

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              • ChrisC Chris

                @Stargazer

                Bower the same not sure that is correct either

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                @Chris Yes, I haven't even seen rumours that he's leaving. It could be true, but then they've kept that really, really quiet. He's 31 years old though.

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                • StargazerS Stargazer

                  @Chris Yes, I haven't even seen rumours that he's leaving. It could be true, but then they've kept that really, really quiet. He's 31 years old though.

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                  @Stargazer

                  31 not really old for a prop.

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                  • ChrisC Chris

                    @Stargazer

                    31 not really old for a prop.

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                    @Chris No, but it would be an age at which he might be considering going overseas.

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                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                      @Chris No, but it would be an age at which he might be considering going overseas.

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                      @Stargazer

                      I hear he is re signing but we will see.

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                      • ChrisC Chris

                        @Stargazer

                        Bower the same not sure that is correct either

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                        @Chris said in Super Rugby 2024:

                        @Stargazer

                        Bower the same not sure that is correct either

                        For some reason I had in the back of my head he had signed to go to France - might have muddled that up with Laulala. Intriguing that you are hearing he is staying, because I'd have thought he'd be a lock to head off-shore.

                        @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2024:

                        @frugby where did you find confirmation of Blackwell and Prinsep leaving?

                        Couldn't tell you where (Might have been on here) but read Blackwell is heading to Japan. As for Prinsep, taken a slight liberty, I don't think technically it has been confirmed he is leaving, so should have been yellow, though he is highly unlikely to be back.

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                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                          @frugby For the Chiefs, Sa is a lock. Cashmore is in the Blues WTG so more likely to be promoted there unless both Ioane and Reihana leave the Chiefs. It could be a LH and TH prop needed depending on what happens with Moli and Profitt.

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                          @Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2024:

                          @frugby For the Chiefs, Sa is a lock. Cashmore is in the Blues WTG so more likely to be promoted there unless both Ioane and Reihana leave the Chiefs. It could be a LH and TH prop needed depending on what happens with Moli and Profitt.

                          I also had Sa initially down as a lock, but noticed he played 8 for the Chiefs U20s... might be viewed as too short for lock? Wasn't aware Cashmore was with the Blues, kind of assumed the Chiefs were grooming him having allowed Kemara to head south. Guess Ioane is staying and they might run three 10s including Trask? Moli's comments the other day said to me that he is either going offshore or to MP, because his All Blacks dream is all but dead in the water. Profitt could well stay, hard to know what terms someone of his age would have signed.

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                            @Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2024:

                            @frugby For the Chiefs, Sa is a lock. Cashmore is in the Blues WTG so more likely to be promoted there unless both Ioane and Reihana leave the Chiefs. It could be a LH and TH prop needed depending on what happens with Moli and Profitt.

                            I also had Sa initially down as a lock, but noticed he played 8 for the Chiefs U20s... might be viewed as too short for lock? Wasn't aware Cashmore was with the Blues, kind of assumed the Chiefs were grooming him having allowed Kemara to head south. Guess Ioane is staying and they might run three 10s including Trask? Moli's comments the other day said to me that he is either going offshore or to MP, because his All Blacks dream is all but dead in the water. Profitt could well stay, hard to know what terms someone of his age would have signed.

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                            @frugby said in Super Rugby 2024:

                            I also had Sa initially down as a lock, but noticed he played 8 for the Chiefs U20s... might be viewed as too short for lock?

                            Sa is 2 m tall, so definitely a lock. I don't remember him playing at no.8. That was Wrampling or Forbes.

                            I don't think that the Chiefs need to replace Retallick with a lock if all the other locks are retained.

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                              @Chris said in Super Rugby 2024:

                              @Stargazer

                              Bower the same not sure that is correct either

                              For some reason I had in the back of my head he had signed to go to France - might have muddled that up with Laulala. Intriguing that you are hearing he is staying, because I'd have thought he'd be a lock to head off-shore.

                              @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2024:

                              @frugby where did you find confirmation of Blackwell and Prinsep leaving?

                              Couldn't tell you where (Might have been on here) but read Blackwell is heading to Japan. As for Prinsep, taken a slight liberty, I don't think technically it has been confirmed he is leaving, so should have been yellow, though he is highly unlikely to be back.

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                              @frugby fingers crossed you're right with those two because it's time to move on from them both.

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                              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                @frugby said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                I also had Sa initially down as a lock, but noticed he played 8 for the Chiefs U20s... might be viewed as too short for lock?

                                Sa is 2 m tall, so definitely a lock. I don't remember him playing at no.8. That was Wrampling or Forbes.

                                I don't think that the Chiefs need to replace Retallick with a lock if all the other locks are retained.

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                                @Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                @frugby said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                I also had Sa initially down as a lock, but noticed he played 8 for the Chiefs U20s... might be viewed as too short for lock?

                                Sa is 2 m tall, so definitely a lock. I don't remember him playing at no.8. That was Wrampling or Forbes.

                                I don't think that the Chiefs need to replace Retallick with a lock if all the other locks are retained.

                                Sa started 8 in the QF and v MP. Granted, Forbes and Wrampling were injured so perhaps they would have packed down there - I'm not familiar enough with the Chiefs region to know that so I'll take your word for it.

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                                • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                  @frugby fingers crossed you're right with those two because it's time to move on from them both.

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                                  @Canes4life I know Canes fans don't rate Prinsep, but I thought you guys liked Blackwell? Not a world-beater, but a dependable member to have in the squad.

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                                    @Canes4life I know Canes fans don't rate Prinsep, but I thought you guys liked Blackwell? Not a world-beater, but a dependable member to have in the squad.

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                                    @frugby he tries hard but I’m over not winning big matches because he drops the ball at a crucial time in the game, or he is outplayed by a bigger lock at lineout time.

                                    We need taller locks with more grunt because our loosies are smaller than most teams.

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                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300912131/newsable-sir-graham-henry-says-super-rugby-needs-to-level-playing-field

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                                        @kiwi_expat he's kinda right.

                                        The underlying issue though is Super is no longer the premier domestic rugby comp in the world. It's slipped; I think we miss the SA teams in particular. Performance in Super no longer predicts success in Tests.

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                                          for all the various idea thats have been tabled, i thin at very least handing the running over to its own organisation, one thats focus on whats best for the competition (making it sustainable etc) rather than whats best for each countries nations teams would be a positive way forward and should be looked at

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