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  • DonsteppaD Offline
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    Turns out the bloke in charge had plenty of equally talented people enabling him. Given this is after the fact...

    An investor in OceanGate, who made the same trip to the Titanic in August 2021, has come to the defence of CEO Stockton Rush, who was piloting the Titan when it imploded.

    Aaron Newman told the BBC’s Michelle Fleury that the idea Rush had done anything wrong was "disingenuous".

    "Stockton spoke to me for hours about ocean exploration," he said of his decision to invest in the company.

    "His passion was amazing and I bought into it."

    Newman credited Rush for "doing something far beyond what anybody else had" in creating a reusable sub, which he said was comfortable enough to carry several people and relied on an unconventional design.

    "If the Wright brothers had crashed their plane, what would people be saying about them?" he asked.

    Source: The live BBC feed.

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    @Donsteppa said in Titanic tourist submarine:

    When I heard Cameron's comments I took them more as a mark of genuine frustration than much else. My guess is most of us were also assuming it was a recovery mission, up until the "banging noises", made it sound like a hopeless rescue.

    Sadly it sounds like anyone with any technical knowledge even remotely familiar with OceanGate were aware of a disaster waiting to happen. The latest in a long list, this is a Facebook post from Parks Stephenson, a past diver to Titanic (among many deep sea missions), and currently in charge of the USS Kidd museum.

    I got the call early Monday morning, just as the sun was coming up. Titan was lost. -snip-

    I wonder at what stage the families were told about the suspected detection of an implosion.

    Well it is all very good for him to be dismissive of the press etc, when they weren't told that the implosion was heard, and then were told there was regular banging every 30 mins. What an arrogant tool that guy is, 'I had the knowledge of what happened, everyone else were dumb for not knowing this'

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    @Machpants said in Titanic tourist submarine:

    @Donsteppa said in Titanic tourist submarine:

    When I heard Cameron's comments I took them more as a mark of genuine frustration than much else. My guess is most of us were also assuming it was a recovery mission, up until the "banging noises", made it sound like a hopeless rescue.

    Sadly it sounds like anyone with any technical knowledge even remotely familiar with OceanGate were aware of a disaster waiting to happen. The latest in a long list, this is a Facebook post from Parks Stephenson, a past diver to Titanic (among many deep sea missions), and currently in charge of the USS Kidd museum.

    I got the call early Monday morning, just as the sun was coming up. Titan was lost. -snip-

    I wonder at what stage the families were told about the suspected detection of an implosion.

    Well it is all very good for him to be dismissive of the press etc, when they weren't told that the implosion was heard, and then were told there was regular banging every 30 mins. What an arrogant tool that guy is, 'I had the knowledge of what happened, everyone else were dumb for not knowing this'

    His views on OceanGate might have been more useful than the rest...

    From memory the banging was certainly referenced by the Coast Guard, I'm wondering whether the 30 minute frequency was ever official, or whether it was optimistically introduced somewhere along the way.

    (From a quick skim: https://www.news.uscg.mil/Press-Releases/Article/3435166/joint-search-continues-for-missing-submersible-titan/ mentions "Underwater sounds have been detected in the search area, resulting in the redirection of remotely operated vehicle (ROV) operations to explore the origin. These recordings have been shared with the U.S. Navy for analysis to help guide future search efforts.", maybe in the press conferences themselves, or otherwise...?)

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    @MN5

    Saw a Tweet suggesting it's a small scale early 20th Century historical rerun.

    A Titanic disaster followed by the Russian Revolution.

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    #104

    --getting my threads mixed again--

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    @taniwharugby said in Titanic tourist submarine:

    There's a great comment in one of those videos: The Michael Scott of deepwater exploration.

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    #107

    So... I just happen to currently be playing solving the nerd-game puzzle BioShock... and as I come to the "Submarine Bay" - what do I find? A vehicle which includes a perfect fucking sphere as the main component for passengers. ... even nerd-game developers know that is how shit works.

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    @Kruse said in Titanic tourist submarine:

    So... I just happen to currently be playing solving the nerd-game puzzle BioShock... and as I come to the "Submarine Bay" - what do I find? A vehicle which includes a perfect fucking sphere as the main component for passengers. Cause... even nerd-game developers know that is how shit works.

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    @Kruse said in Titanic tourist submarine:

    vehicle which includes a perfect fucking sphere

    that would explain the constant banging every 30 minutes.

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  • DonsteppaD Offline
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    Weissmann said Rush told him how he had gotten the carbon fibre used to make Titan, specifically the hull of the vessel, "at a big discount from Boeing". Weissmann wrote in Travel Weekly that Rush said he was able to get the carbon fibre at a good rate "because it was past its shelf life for use in airplanes".

    Again, what could possibly go wrong...

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/us-canada/300913711/titan-sub-ceo-spoke-of-big-discount-for-carbon-fibre-travel-editor-says?rm=a

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    @Donsteppa said in Titanic tourist submarine:

    Weissmann said Rush told him how he had gotten the carbon fibre used to make Titan, specifically the hull of the vessel, "at a big discount from Boeing". Weissmann wrote in Travel Weekly that Rush said he was able to get the carbon fibre at a good rate "because it was past its shelf life for use in airplanes".

    Again, what could possibly go wrong...

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/us-canada/300913711/titan-sub-ceo-spoke-of-big-discount-for-carbon-fibre-travel-editor-says?rm=a

    Perfectly reasonable, aircrew are way more important and cooler than submariners. They can have their second class fibre 🙄

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    The lawsuits from this are going to be astounding

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    @MiketheSnow said in Titanic tourist submarine:

    The lawsuits from this are going to be astounding

    Just as well the CEO went down with the ship I guess...

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    Retrieval of the larger parts, these look to be the end caps (Titanium) and outer shell plus hardware. Basically parts that weren't pressurized. (or carbon fibre)

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    Apparently 'human remains' discovered within the debris

    Probably 5 mm within

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    @dogmeat be less than 5mm...

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