Skip to content
  • Categories
Collapse

The Silver Fern

  • Tipping
  • Team Sheets
  • Highlights
  • Results
    • All Blacks

      Search every All Blacks Test. Filter results by year, opposition, location, venue, city and RWC stage

    • Super Rugby

      Search every Super Rugby since match 1996

    • NPC

      Search NPC results. Only first division matches from 1976-2005. All results from the 14 team competition (2006-present) are included

All Blacks 2023

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Sports Talk
allblacks
3.7k Posts 112 Posters 824.5k Views 3 Watching
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • TordahT Tordah

    So with the short turnaround between the Arg and the Bok game, does this increase Shaun Stevenson's chances of getting capped?

    Victor MeldrewV Offline
    Victor MeldrewV Offline
    Victor Meldrew
    wrote on last edited by
    #1939

    @Tordah said in All Blacks 2023:

    So with the short turnaround between the Arg and the Bok game, does this increase Shaun Stevenson's chances of getting capped?

    From what's been said, the door isn't just open for SS, but Foster is holding it open for him. Provided he doesn't do anything dumb in camp, I'd be surprised if he isn't capped and in the RWC Squad.

    1 Reply Last reply
    1
    • S Offline
      S Offline
      SBW1
      wrote on last edited by
      #1940

      Telea will be out for a few games by the sound of it. Stevenson was really good under highball last night and his exits were quite impressive, he is quite a big boy as well. Felt like he had the better of Will Jordan, wouldn't surprise me if the stats confirm that as well.

      1 Reply Last reply
      2
      • F Offline
        F Offline
        frugby
        wrote on last edited by
        #1941

        Goodhue will surely be called in as cover. Ioane, Ennor and if you really want to add him in, Fainga'anuku are all out and out centres. Goodhue has played plenty of 12, so he is needed. Interestingly, the NZ XV have also picked three centres + Goodhue, so I wonder whether Sam Gilbert is being viewed as a genuine 12 option there. If the ABs are looking for a goal kicker, he can do the trick!

        P BovidaeB 2 Replies Last reply
        2
        • nostrildamusN Offline
          nostrildamusN Offline
          nostrildamus
          wrote on last edited by
          #1942

          Speaking of rummaging in the spare closet for sometimes 12s, when is Sevu Reece back?

          StargazerS 1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

            Speaking of rummaging in the spare closet for sometimes 12s, when is Sevu Reece back?

            StargazerS Offline
            StargazerS Offline
            Stargazer
            wrote on last edited by
            #1943

            @nostrildamus From the Crusaders' injury update:

            Sevu injured his knee and has had scans which have confirmed an ACL rupture and now he will undergo surgery to repair this. Unfortunately this rules Sevu out of rugby for the rest of 2023.

            nostrildamusN 1 Reply Last reply
            1
            • StargazerS Stargazer

              @nostrildamus From the Crusaders' injury update:

              Sevu injured his knee and has had scans which have confirmed an ACL rupture and now he will undergo surgery to repair this. Unfortunately this rules Sevu out of rugby for the rest of 2023.

              nostrildamusN Offline
              nostrildamusN Offline
              nostrildamus
              wrote on last edited by
              #1944

              @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2023:

              @nostrildamus From the Crusaders' injury update:

              Sevu injured his knee and has had scans which have confirmed an ACL rupture and now he will undergo surgery to repair this. Unfortunately this rules Sevu out of rugby for the rest of 2023.

              Sorry to hear that. But Emoni Narawa looks almost like a like-for-like replacement, similar great workrate, slightly bigger, faster(?), with better kicking.

              1 Reply Last reply
              6
              • F frugby

                Goodhue will surely be called in as cover. Ioane, Ennor and if you really want to add him in, Fainga'anuku are all out and out centres. Goodhue has played plenty of 12, so he is needed. Interestingly, the NZ XV have also picked three centres + Goodhue, so I wonder whether Sam Gilbert is being viewed as a genuine 12 option there. If the ABs are looking for a goal kicker, he can do the trick!

                P Offline
                P Offline
                pakman
                wrote on last edited by
                #1945

                @frugby said in All Blacks 2023:

                Goodhue will surely be called in as cover. Ioane, Ennor and if you really want to add him in, Fainga'anuku are all out and out centres. Goodhue has played plenty of 12, so he is needed. Interestingly, the NZ XV have also picked three centres + Goodhue, so I wonder whether Sam Gilbert is being viewed as a genuine 12 option there. If the ABs are looking for a goal kicker, he can do the trick!

                Aumua into XV as cover?

                1 Reply Last reply
                2
                • F Offline
                  F Offline
                  frugby
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #1946

                  I mean maybe, but again he isn't a 12. Would be more likely to be TUJ or even a young guy like Higgins I'd have thought.

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • F frugby

                    Goodhue will surely be called in as cover. Ioane, Ennor and if you really want to add him in, Fainga'anuku are all out and out centres. Goodhue has played plenty of 12, so he is needed. Interestingly, the NZ XV have also picked three centres + Goodhue, so I wonder whether Sam Gilbert is being viewed as a genuine 12 option there. If the ABs are looking for a goal kicker, he can do the trick!

                    BovidaeB Offline
                    BovidaeB Offline
                    Bovidae
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #1947

                    @frugby said in All Blacks 2023:

                    Interestingly, the NZ XV have also picked three centres + Goodhue

                    Nankivell has played at 2nd 5 plenty of times.

                    If Goodhue goes to the ABs I think that Heem gets a callup.

                    F 1 Reply Last reply
                    3
                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                      @frugby said in All Blacks 2023:

                      Interestingly, the NZ XV have also picked three centres + Goodhue

                      Nankivell has played at 2nd 5 plenty of times.

                      If Goodhue goes to the ABs I think that Heem gets a callup.

                      F Offline
                      F Offline
                      frugby
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #1948

                      @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2023:

                      @frugby said in All Blacks 2023:

                      Interestingly, the NZ XV have also picked three centres + Goodhue

                      Nankivell has played at 2nd 5 plenty of times.

                      If Goodhue goes to the ABs I think that Heem gets a callup.

                      Good call r.e Nankivell... Heem would be an odd pick I think, because realistically this player won't play, so I think they'd be better off picking someone like Higgins.

                      StargazerS 1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      • F frugby

                        @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2023:

                        @frugby said in All Blacks 2023:

                        Interestingly, the NZ XV have also picked three centres + Goodhue

                        Nankivell has played at 2nd 5 plenty of times.

                        If Goodhue goes to the ABs I think that Heem gets a callup.

                        Good call r.e Nankivell... Heem would be an odd pick I think, because realistically this player won't play, so I think they'd be better off picking someone like Higgins.

                        StargazerS Offline
                        StargazerS Offline
                        Stargazer
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #1949

                        @frugby Higgins has hardly played SR, this season. That would be an undeserved call-up.

                        The ABx XV isn't a development team; they're the back-up team. Heem would be a good pick.

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        6
                        • S Offline
                          S Offline
                          SBW1
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #1950

                          1 Reply Last reply
                          0
                          • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                            @mariner4life in an ideal world I would love to see us go with a lineup without BB:

                            9 Smith
                            10 Mo’unga
                            12 Jordie
                            13 Ioane
                            11 Fainga’anuku
                            14 Jordan
                            15 DMac

                            21 Roigard
                            22 ALB
                            23 Stevenson / Narawa

                            ACT CrusaderA Offline
                            ACT CrusaderA Offline
                            ACT Crusader
                            wrote on last edited by ACT Crusader
                            #1951

                            @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2023:

                            @mariner4life in an ideal world I would love to see us go with a lineup without BB:

                            9 Smith
                            10 Mo’unga
                            12 Jordie
                            13 Ioane
                            11 Fainga’anuku
                            14 Jordan
                            15 DMac

                            21 Roigard
                            22 ALB
                            23 Stevenson / Narawa

                            So after the weekend and now that ALB will likely be on the sidelines, I think they will go with

                            9 Smith
                            10 Mo’unga
                            12 Jordie
                            13 Ioane
                            11 Fainga’anuku
                            14 Jordan
                            15 DMac

                            21 Roigard
                            22 Beaudie
                            23 Narawa

                            2nd 5 injury cover will be Ioane or Beaudie. Beaudie had filled in there when we’ve had issues, but shifting in Ioane and moving Fainga’anuku to centre makes more sense (Narawa to wing).

                            Crazy HorseC F 2 Replies Last reply
                            1
                            • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                              @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2023:

                              @mariner4life in an ideal world I would love to see us go with a lineup without BB:

                              9 Smith
                              10 Mo’unga
                              12 Jordie
                              13 Ioane
                              11 Fainga’anuku
                              14 Jordan
                              15 DMac

                              21 Roigard
                              22 ALB
                              23 Stevenson / Narawa

                              So after the weekend and now that ALB will likely be on the sidelines, I think they will go with

                              9 Smith
                              10 Mo’unga
                              12 Jordie
                              13 Ioane
                              11 Fainga’anuku
                              14 Jordan
                              15 DMac

                              21 Roigard
                              22 Beaudie
                              23 Narawa

                              2nd 5 injury cover will be Ioane or Beaudie. Beaudie had filled in there when we’ve had issues, but shifting in Ioane and moving Fainga’anuku to centre makes more sense (Narawa to wing).

                              Crazy HorseC Offline
                              Crazy HorseC Offline
                              Crazy Horse
                              wrote on last edited by Crazy Horse
                              #1952

                              @ACT-Crusader jeez those midfield options don't exactly have the reputation of putting people into space. It's been a problem for a few years now and my biggest concern with the backs leading into the world cup.

                              1 Reply Last reply
                              3
                              • BovidaeB Offline
                                BovidaeB Offline
                                Bovidae
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #1953

                                I'd be surprised if RM, BB and DMac all travel to Arg, much less be in the 23. You don't need both BB and DMac.

                                BB to be either 10 or 15 vs Arg.

                                F 1 Reply Last reply
                                1
                                • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                  @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2023:

                                  @mariner4life in an ideal world I would love to see us go with a lineup without BB:

                                  9 Smith
                                  10 Mo’unga
                                  12 Jordie
                                  13 Ioane
                                  11 Fainga’anuku
                                  14 Jordan
                                  15 DMac

                                  21 Roigard
                                  22 ALB
                                  23 Stevenson / Narawa

                                  So after the weekend and now that ALB will likely be on the sidelines, I think they will go with

                                  9 Smith
                                  10 Mo’unga
                                  12 Jordie
                                  13 Ioane
                                  11 Fainga’anuku
                                  14 Jordan
                                  15 DMac

                                  21 Roigard
                                  22 Beaudie
                                  23 Narawa

                                  2nd 5 injury cover will be Ioane or Beaudie. Beaudie had filled in there when we’ve had issues, but shifting in Ioane and moving Fainga’anuku to centre makes more sense (Narawa to wing).

                                  F Offline
                                  F Offline
                                  frugby
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #1954

                                  @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2023:

                                  @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2023:

                                  @mariner4life in an ideal world I would love to see us go with a lineup without BB:

                                  9 Smith
                                  10 Mo’unga
                                  12 Jordie
                                  13 Ioane
                                  11 Fainga’anuku
                                  14 Jordan
                                  15 DMac

                                  21 Roigard
                                  22 ALB
                                  23 Stevenson / Narawa

                                  So after the weekend and now that ALB will likely be on the sidelines, I think they will go with

                                  9 Smith
                                  10 Mo’unga
                                  12 Jordie
                                  13 Ioane
                                  11 Fainga’anuku
                                  14 Jordan
                                  15 DMac

                                  21 Roigard
                                  22 Beaudie
                                  23 Narawa

                                  2nd 5 injury cover will be Ioane or Beaudie. Beaudie had filled in there when we’ve had issues, but shifting in Ioane and moving Fainga’anuku to centre makes more sense (Narawa to wing).

                                  I think this is close. My feeling would be Beauden at 15, and Goodhue in 22 because they'll want specialist 2nd Five cover.

                                  1 Reply Last reply
                                  1
                                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                    I'd be surprised if RM, BB and DMac all travel to Arg, much less be in the 23. You don't need both BB and DMac.

                                    BB to be either 10 or 15 vs Arg.

                                    F Offline
                                    F Offline
                                    frugby
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #1955

                                    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2023:

                                    I'd be surprised if RM, BB and DMac all travel to Arg, much less be in the 23. You don't need both BB and DMac.

                                    BB to be either 10 or 15 vs Arg.

                                    I think they'll all travel - what if one gets injured? In general, because there is such little time until the World Cup, I think almost everyone will travel, as they'll want to build together in the environment.

                                    Whitelock is the only one who I expect to stay at home.

                                    1 Reply Last reply
                                    1
                                    • BovidaeB Offline
                                      BovidaeB Offline
                                      Bovidae
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #1956

                                      Ryan said the full squad only has 4 days of training before heading to Arg, and they'd have even less to prepare for the SA test the following week with the time difference and return travel. If the plan is to give most players a chance to play in these 2 games there will have to be some separation of the squad.

                                      M 1 Reply Last reply
                                      0
                                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                        Ryan said the full squad only has 4 days of training before heading to Arg, and they'd have even less to prepare for the SA test the following week with the time difference and return travel. If the plan is to give most players a chance to play in these 2 games there will have to be some separation of the squad.

                                        M Offline
                                        M Offline
                                        Machpants
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #1957

                                        @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2023:

                                        Ryan said the full squad only has 4 days of training before heading to Arg, and they'd have even less to prepare for the SA test the following week with the time difference and return travel. If the plan is to give most players a chance to play in these 2 games there will have to be some separation of the squad.

                                        https://tenor.com/Tbz9.gif

                                        1 Reply Last reply
                                        0
                                        • WurzelW Offline
                                          WurzelW Offline
                                          Wurzel
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #1958

                                          Foster said on selection night that they won't be separating the squads and all 36+ will go to Argentina and on to South Africa. He said with the condensed Rugby Championship he needs all the training time possible with all players.

                                          BovidaeB 1 Reply Last reply
                                          1
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          • Login

                                          • Don't have an account? Register

                                          • Search
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Categories
                                          • Search