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All Blacks 2023

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    Goodhue will surely be called in as cover. Ioane, Ennor and if you really want to add him in, Fainga'anuku are all out and out centres. Goodhue has played plenty of 12, so he is needed. Interestingly, the NZ XV have also picked three centres + Goodhue, so I wonder whether Sam Gilbert is being viewed as a genuine 12 option there. If the ABs are looking for a goal kicker, he can do the trick!

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      Speaking of rummaging in the spare closet for sometimes 12s, when is Sevu Reece back?

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        Speaking of rummaging in the spare closet for sometimes 12s, when is Sevu Reece back?

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        @nostrildamus From the Crusaders' injury update:

        Sevu injured his knee and has had scans which have confirmed an ACL rupture and now he will undergo surgery to repair this. Unfortunately this rules Sevu out of rugby for the rest of 2023.

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        • StargazerS Stargazer

          @nostrildamus From the Crusaders' injury update:

          Sevu injured his knee and has had scans which have confirmed an ACL rupture and now he will undergo surgery to repair this. Unfortunately this rules Sevu out of rugby for the rest of 2023.

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          @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2023:

          @nostrildamus From the Crusaders' injury update:

          Sevu injured his knee and has had scans which have confirmed an ACL rupture and now he will undergo surgery to repair this. Unfortunately this rules Sevu out of rugby for the rest of 2023.

          Sorry to hear that. But Emoni Narawa looks almost like a like-for-like replacement, similar great workrate, slightly bigger, faster(?), with better kicking.

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          • frugbyF frugby

            Goodhue will surely be called in as cover. Ioane, Ennor and if you really want to add him in, Fainga'anuku are all out and out centres. Goodhue has played plenty of 12, so he is needed. Interestingly, the NZ XV have also picked three centres + Goodhue, so I wonder whether Sam Gilbert is being viewed as a genuine 12 option there. If the ABs are looking for a goal kicker, he can do the trick!

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            @frugby said in All Blacks 2023:

            Goodhue will surely be called in as cover. Ioane, Ennor and if you really want to add him in, Fainga'anuku are all out and out centres. Goodhue has played plenty of 12, so he is needed. Interestingly, the NZ XV have also picked three centres + Goodhue, so I wonder whether Sam Gilbert is being viewed as a genuine 12 option there. If the ABs are looking for a goal kicker, he can do the trick!

            Aumua into XV as cover?

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              I mean maybe, but again he isn't a 12. Would be more likely to be TUJ or even a young guy like Higgins I'd have thought.

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                Goodhue will surely be called in as cover. Ioane, Ennor and if you really want to add him in, Fainga'anuku are all out and out centres. Goodhue has played plenty of 12, so he is needed. Interestingly, the NZ XV have also picked three centres + Goodhue, so I wonder whether Sam Gilbert is being viewed as a genuine 12 option there. If the ABs are looking for a goal kicker, he can do the trick!

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                @frugby said in All Blacks 2023:

                Interestingly, the NZ XV have also picked three centres + Goodhue

                Nankivell has played at 2nd 5 plenty of times.

                If Goodhue goes to the ABs I think that Heem gets a callup.

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                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                  @frugby said in All Blacks 2023:

                  Interestingly, the NZ XV have also picked three centres + Goodhue

                  Nankivell has played at 2nd 5 plenty of times.

                  If Goodhue goes to the ABs I think that Heem gets a callup.

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                  @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2023:

                  @frugby said in All Blacks 2023:

                  Interestingly, the NZ XV have also picked three centres + Goodhue

                  Nankivell has played at 2nd 5 plenty of times.

                  If Goodhue goes to the ABs I think that Heem gets a callup.

                  Good call r.e Nankivell... Heem would be an odd pick I think, because realistically this player won't play, so I think they'd be better off picking someone like Higgins.

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                    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2023:

                    @frugby said in All Blacks 2023:

                    Interestingly, the NZ XV have also picked three centres + Goodhue

                    Nankivell has played at 2nd 5 plenty of times.

                    If Goodhue goes to the ABs I think that Heem gets a callup.

                    Good call r.e Nankivell... Heem would be an odd pick I think, because realistically this player won't play, so I think they'd be better off picking someone like Higgins.

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                    @frugby Higgins has hardly played SR, this season. That would be an undeserved call-up.

                    The ABx XV isn't a development team; they're the back-up team. Heem would be a good pick.

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                      • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                        @mariner4life in an ideal world I would love to see us go with a lineup without BB:

                        9 Smith
                        10 Mo’unga
                        12 Jordie
                        13 Ioane
                        11 Fainga’anuku
                        14 Jordan
                        15 DMac

                        21 Roigard
                        22 ALB
                        23 Stevenson / Narawa

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                        @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2023:

                        @mariner4life in an ideal world I would love to see us go with a lineup without BB:

                        9 Smith
                        10 Mo’unga
                        12 Jordie
                        13 Ioane
                        11 Fainga’anuku
                        14 Jordan
                        15 DMac

                        21 Roigard
                        22 ALB
                        23 Stevenson / Narawa

                        So after the weekend and now that ALB will likely be on the sidelines, I think they will go with

                        9 Smith
                        10 Mo’unga
                        12 Jordie
                        13 Ioane
                        11 Fainga’anuku
                        14 Jordan
                        15 DMac

                        21 Roigard
                        22 Beaudie
                        23 Narawa

                        2nd 5 injury cover will be Ioane or Beaudie. Beaudie had filled in there when we’ve had issues, but shifting in Ioane and moving Fainga’anuku to centre makes more sense (Narawa to wing).

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                          @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2023:

                          @mariner4life in an ideal world I would love to see us go with a lineup without BB:

                          9 Smith
                          10 Mo’unga
                          12 Jordie
                          13 Ioane
                          11 Fainga’anuku
                          14 Jordan
                          15 DMac

                          21 Roigard
                          22 ALB
                          23 Stevenson / Narawa

                          So after the weekend and now that ALB will likely be on the sidelines, I think they will go with

                          9 Smith
                          10 Mo’unga
                          12 Jordie
                          13 Ioane
                          11 Fainga’anuku
                          14 Jordan
                          15 DMac

                          21 Roigard
                          22 Beaudie
                          23 Narawa

                          2nd 5 injury cover will be Ioane or Beaudie. Beaudie had filled in there when we’ve had issues, but shifting in Ioane and moving Fainga’anuku to centre makes more sense (Narawa to wing).

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                          #1952

                          @ACT-Crusader jeez those midfield options don't exactly have the reputation of putting people into space. It's been a problem for a few years now and my biggest concern with the backs leading into the world cup.

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                            I'd be surprised if RM, BB and DMac all travel to Arg, much less be in the 23. You don't need both BB and DMac.

                            BB to be either 10 or 15 vs Arg.

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                              @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2023:

                              @mariner4life in an ideal world I would love to see us go with a lineup without BB:

                              9 Smith
                              10 Mo’unga
                              12 Jordie
                              13 Ioane
                              11 Fainga’anuku
                              14 Jordan
                              15 DMac

                              21 Roigard
                              22 ALB
                              23 Stevenson / Narawa

                              So after the weekend and now that ALB will likely be on the sidelines, I think they will go with

                              9 Smith
                              10 Mo’unga
                              12 Jordie
                              13 Ioane
                              11 Fainga’anuku
                              14 Jordan
                              15 DMac

                              21 Roigard
                              22 Beaudie
                              23 Narawa

                              2nd 5 injury cover will be Ioane or Beaudie. Beaudie had filled in there when we’ve had issues, but shifting in Ioane and moving Fainga’anuku to centre makes more sense (Narawa to wing).

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                              #1954

                              @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2023:

                              @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2023:

                              @mariner4life in an ideal world I would love to see us go with a lineup without BB:

                              9 Smith
                              10 Mo’unga
                              12 Jordie
                              13 Ioane
                              11 Fainga’anuku
                              14 Jordan
                              15 DMac

                              21 Roigard
                              22 ALB
                              23 Stevenson / Narawa

                              So after the weekend and now that ALB will likely be on the sidelines, I think they will go with

                              9 Smith
                              10 Mo’unga
                              12 Jordie
                              13 Ioane
                              11 Fainga’anuku
                              14 Jordan
                              15 DMac

                              21 Roigard
                              22 Beaudie
                              23 Narawa

                              2nd 5 injury cover will be Ioane or Beaudie. Beaudie had filled in there when we’ve had issues, but shifting in Ioane and moving Fainga’anuku to centre makes more sense (Narawa to wing).

                              I think this is close. My feeling would be Beauden at 15, and Goodhue in 22 because they'll want specialist 2nd Five cover.

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                              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                I'd be surprised if RM, BB and DMac all travel to Arg, much less be in the 23. You don't need both BB and DMac.

                                BB to be either 10 or 15 vs Arg.

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                                @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2023:

                                I'd be surprised if RM, BB and DMac all travel to Arg, much less be in the 23. You don't need both BB and DMac.

                                BB to be either 10 or 15 vs Arg.

                                I think they'll all travel - what if one gets injured? In general, because there is such little time until the World Cup, I think almost everyone will travel, as they'll want to build together in the environment.

                                Whitelock is the only one who I expect to stay at home.

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                                  Ryan said the full squad only has 4 days of training before heading to Arg, and they'd have even less to prepare for the SA test the following week with the time difference and return travel. If the plan is to give most players a chance to play in these 2 games there will have to be some separation of the squad.

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                                    Ryan said the full squad only has 4 days of training before heading to Arg, and they'd have even less to prepare for the SA test the following week with the time difference and return travel. If the plan is to give most players a chance to play in these 2 games there will have to be some separation of the squad.

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                                    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2023:

                                    Ryan said the full squad only has 4 days of training before heading to Arg, and they'd have even less to prepare for the SA test the following week with the time difference and return travel. If the plan is to give most players a chance to play in these 2 games there will have to be some separation of the squad.

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                                      Foster said on selection night that they won't be separating the squads and all 36+ will go to Argentina and on to South Africa. He said with the condensed Rugby Championship he needs all the training time possible with all players.

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                                      • WurzelW Wurzel

                                        Foster said on selection night that they won't be separating the squads and all 36+ will go to Argentina and on to South Africa. He said with the condensed Rugby Championship he needs all the training time possible with all players.

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                                        @Wurzel OK. SA will be waiting in Auckland for the ABs to return home as they are splitting their squad apparently.

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                                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                          @Wurzel OK. SA will be waiting in Auckland for the ABs to return home as they are splitting their squad apparently.

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                                          @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2023:

                                          @Wurzel OK. SA will be waiting in Auckland for the ABs to return home as they are splitting their squad apparently.

                                          I'm not sure if that is confirmed, that was hypothesised, as they have done it before

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