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Klitschko, Fury, Parker, Takam & Joshua

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  • mimicM Offline
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="JK" data-cid="584066" data-time="1464596921">
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    <p>Gotta keep away from Hayes as nothing to gain there. Very high risk fight. Whyte would be a better option if looking to raise parkers uk profile</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>Fighting Hayes would earn Parker more money than Whyte/Joshua. Duco would probably chase that i believe.</p>

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    • JKJ Offline
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      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="mimic" data-cid="585056" data-time="1465011542"><p>
      Fighting Hayes would earn Parker more money than Whyte/Joshua. Duco would probably chase that i believe.</p></blockquote>
      <br>
      Yeah and that is exactly the problem with duco

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        #535

        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="rotated" data-cid="582142" data-time="1464056178">
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        <p>I don't know, at least when it comes to cricket we've had plenty of father/son combos - with the sons outshining their father. Hadlee, Cairns, Harris, Braces and Latham on their way.<br><br>
        Rugby might be the case Paul Williams, Anton Oliver good careers but not their dads for sure.</p>
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        <p>Records smecords. I'd rather have Lance than Chris.</p>

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        • NTAN Offline
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          <p>OK, admittedly I don't watch a lot of boxing, but the Puerto Rican chap here looks a bit shit.</p>
          <p> </p>
          <p>The only reason I post this here, is because the Ukrainian guy does something that 0:25 in this clip I've not seen before in my limited viewing of the sweet science.</p>
          <p> </p>
          <p>Its like a fucking sidestep</p>
          <p> </p>
          <p>

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            <p>Great finish. He was gone after the first punch.</p>

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            • JKJ Offline
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              <p>So Parker wins by TKO last night vs Haumono after dropping him with an uppercut. Some controversy as ref appeared to call the fight off early as Haumono wasnt that clear in whether he was up from the count or not.  I'm fairly sure Joseph would have finished the fight fairly quickly after then anyway but yeah....</p>
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              <p>Fight itself was fairly underwhelming. Defence again a bit lacking, especially in the 3rd round but I guess by then that Joseph had realised that Haumono wasnt really going to hurt him despite him coming forward at him pretty much all the time. In fact Joseph got hit a fair bit, too much again for my liking. Seem to get less and less confident in Josephs abilities and potential each time he fights.</p>
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              <p>Full fight on youtube for now (with some polish? commentary)</p>
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              • JKJ Offline
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                <p>So who next before AJ? Time for Whyte???</p>
                <p> </p>
                <p>I still think its too soon for fight AJ for a title and he would be much better place in another 18months or so but I guess he needs to take the oportunity, even if he may not be ready</p>

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                  #540

                  A mate pointed out an interesting point ,<br><br>Nearly all the top ranked fighters in the world who are considered more advanced than Joseph , are taller than him with a longer reach,<br><br>yet they have ( whether by choice or coincidence)hand picked fighters smaller than him

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                    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="kiwiinmelb" data-cid="598709" data-time="1469150370">
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                    <p>A mate pointed out an interesting point ,<br><br>
                    Nearly all the top ranked fighters in the world who are considered more advanced than Joseph ,<strong> are taller than him with a longer reach,</strong><br><br>
                    yet they have ( whether by choice or coincidence)hand picked fighters smaller than him</p>
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                    <p>JP is 193cm in height and reach....forget Canes4Life bullshit, these stats are extremely accurate and fighters are weighed in before each fight as everyone knows. Some blokes his height are well over 200cm in reach so perhaps that will be telling as he doesn't appear to have the ferocious power that "short" fighters like Tyson, Tua, Marciano, Frazier etc had in abundance.</p>

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                    • kiwiinmelbK Offline
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                      Its interesting how the heavyweight fighters have evolved into these tall fighters , current world champion Fury is 6 foot nine , in previous eras that wouldve been for basketball not boxing,<br><br>Dadid Haye of the top ranked fighters is considered small at 6 foot 3 , still a bit taller than Ali

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                      • nostrildamusN Offline
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                        #543

                        <p>But Tyson wasn't tall at 1.78 and in his prime I'd wager he'd hold his own against the overgrown contenders of today.</p>

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                          Tyson would , some of the others would too, that want my point so much , just the massive change in dimensions,<br><br>Tyson did say though, he thinks he would struggle to beat Klitsccko , with his ability to keep fighters of his size on the outside

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                            <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="kiwiinmelb" data-cid="599661" data-time="1469323113">
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                            <p>Tyson did say though, he thinks he would struggle to beat Klitsccko , with his ability to keep fighters of his size on the outside</p>
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                            <p> </p>
                            <p>That was the way to beat Tyson, keep him out of his range and hug him as soon as he came in. Frustrate him.</p>
                            <p> </p>
                            <p>Of course no one was good enough until he came out of prison. I'm sure Cus would have addressed that.</p>
                            <p> </p>
                            <p>On the Lesnar doping; this has starkly highlighted the real problem - dope and get paid. Then deal with the fallout by wiping your tears away with Benjamins.</p>

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                            • JKJ Offline
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                              #546

                              <p>So expecting an announcement tomorrow for Parker to be fighting Alexander Dimitrenko next up.</p>
                              <p> </p>
                              <p>The guy is a big unit at 2.01m and has a record or 38-2-0 with his losses coming against Chambers and Pulev.</p>
                              <p> </p>
                              <p> </p>
                              <p>A step in the right direction for sure</p>

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                                #547

                                <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="JK" data-cid="600035" data-time="1469417807">
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                                <p>So expecting an announcement tomorrow for Parker to be fighting Alexander Dimitrenko next up.</p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>The guy is a big unit at 2.01m and has a record or 38-2-0 with his losses coming against Chambers and Pulev.</p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>A step in the right direction for sure</p>
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                                <p> </p>
                                <p>Definitely channeling the spirit of Dolph Lundrgren with his 'do.</p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>That's a fine record, scanning the list of his fights in Wikipedia there doesn't seem to be too many "names" there ( although to be fair I'm no expert on todays fighters )</p>

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                                • JKJ Offline
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                                  <p>Yeah not a lot of real names in there was my thinking too.</p>

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                                    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="JK" data-cid="600041" data-time="1469418707">
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                                    <p>Yeah not a lot of real names in there was my thinking too.</p>
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                                    <p>Flip side of that is, despite us proud kiwis building him up, JP is hardly a real "name" either in all honesty. A loss to an ex leaguie like Soloman Haumono would have been a fucken disaster.</p>

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                                      <p>It's a good opponent for him at this stage of his career. Definitely the 2nd best opponent for him after Takam and should be able to get some rounds in without being troubled too much.</p>

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                                        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="African Monkey" data-cid="600045" data-time="1469419840">
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                                        <p>It's a good opponent for him at this stage of his career. Definitely the 2nd best opponent for him after Takam and should be able to get some rounds in without being troubled too much.</p>
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                                        <p> </p>
                                        <p>Also good for him to come up against a bloke with a huge reach advantage too, just like the others further down the line in his "journey"</p>

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                                          <p>He posesses a goodish jab which should keep Parker's questionable defence but has a very slow right hand and doesn't have a lot of power. Was in a good battle with Pulev before being knocked to the canvas late on with a jab so his chin is also questionable. </p>

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