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Argentina v All Blacks

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  • Chris B.C Chris B.

    @taniwharugby They reckon playing lock is more physically demanding than 6, so I think it's more likely for a 6 to shift into lock late in the game than a lock to shift to 6.

    I reckon Vaa'i will replace Lord and Papali'i will replace Frizell and we'll try to lift the tempo in the final quarter.

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    @Chris-B I think we know SB will play 80, so he either goes to 6 or I guess Dalton does, giving us our black jack back row

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    • A akan004

      Vaai better start to show something. Another guy who is leading a charmed life.

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      Kiwiwomble
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      @akan004 i was going to say thats harsh on someone with only a few tests under his belt....until i checked...18 tests...carry on

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        It's worth noting in both losses to Argie under Foz that Frizell started at 6 - and sucked.

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        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

          It's worth noting in both losses to Argie under Foz that Frizell started at 6 - and sucked.

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          @KiwiMurph his selection is so odd to me. Why not try Finau in this game.

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            If Dmac is starting, it would have been good to see SS in there as well. Potentially, the ABs territorial kicking game could have been improved significantly.
            BB... I will be screaming at the TV if we fuck around at our exits and put pressure on ourselves as we have been doing consistently since 2019. ....sigh... I know it is going to happen and I need to mentally prepare for it but the game is on at 4:00 in the morning here so alcohol is not an option.

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            • O Old Samurai Jack

              If Dmac is starting, it would have been good to see SS in there as well. Potentially, the ABs territorial kicking game could have been improved significantly.
              BB... I will be screaming at the TV if we fuck around at our exits and put pressure on ourselves as we have been doing consistently since 2019. ....sigh... I know it is going to happen and I need to mentally prepare for it but the game is on at 4:00 in the morning here so alcohol is not an option.

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              @Old-Samurai-Jack said in Argentina v All Blacks:

              If Dmac is starting, it would have been good to see SS in there as well. Potentially, the ABs territorial kicking game could have been improved significantly.
              BB... I will be screaming at the TV if we fuck around at our exits and put pressure on ourselves as we have been doing consistently since 2019. ....sigh... I know it is going to happen and I need to mentally prepare for it but the game is on at 4:00 in the morning here so alcohol is not an option.

              I too am resigned to the defensive bomb bullocks instead of clearing properly.

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              • Chris B.C Chris B.

                @Kiwiwomble Pretty much the whole team, with the exceptions of Lord, DMac and Narawa - and he had no choice with Narawa.

                He could have picked Retallick and Mo'unga, so he's made some little dice rolls there.

                What he hasn't done is pick a bunch of new caps - Williams, Finau, Roigard, McLeod and Stevenson.

                I'm guessing we might see one or maybe two of these guys on the bench vs the Boks.

                If we lock up the Bledisloe in Test 1, we'll probably see some of these guys getting a test start in Bled 2.

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                @Chris-B said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                @Kiwiwomble Pretty much the whole team, with the exceptions of Lord, DMac and Narawa - and he had no choice with Narawa.

                He could have picked Retallick and Mo'unga, so he's made some little dice rolls there.

                What he hasn't done is pick a bunch of new caps - Williams, Finau, Roigard, McLeod and Stevenson.

                I'm guessing we might see one or maybe two of these guys on the bench vs the Boks.

                If we lock up the Bledisloe in Test 1, we'll probably see some of these guys getting a test start in Bled 2.

                He could have picked BBR in the 23, RM to start, and Taylor/Sami to share the #2. That would have been more conservative and closer to a โ€œbig gameโ€ squad. Unless those guys are banged up, I donโ€™t like whatโ€™s heโ€™s done.

                And with Cane at 7, Iโ€™d have preferred he go with Finau at 6 for some more impact with ball in hand.

                Anyway, time to be positive - I for one am looking forward to seeing a spark from Ennor off the bench for the last 15 - the Argies wonโ€™t know whatโ€™s hit them!

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                  If Dmac is starting, it would have been good to see SS in there as well. Potentially, the ABs territorial kicking game could have been improved significantly.
                  BB... I will be screaming at the TV if we fuck around at our exits and put pressure on ourselves as we have been doing consistently since 2019. ....sigh... I know it is going to happen and I need to mentally prepare for it but the game is on at 4:00 in the morning here so alcohol is not an option.

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                  @Old-Samurai-Jack said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                  If Dmac is starting, it would have been good to see SS in there as well. Potentially, the ABs territorial kicking game could have been improved significantly.
                  BB... I will be screaming at the TV if we fuck around at our exits and put pressure on ourselves as we have been doing consistently since 2019. ....sigh... I know it is going to happen and I need to mentally prepare for it but the game is on at 4:00 in the morning here so alcohol is not an option.

                  What? Why?

                  Anyway, I totally agree with BB and exits, is as bad as any team I've seen when he's doing them. That is when he's not trying to be clever and chip it behind them ๐Ÿ™„

                  As to Barrett, the form one, he would've empties his two last weekend, so he might actually come off. But he's normally a full 80 guy, massive engine, form ABs forward this year so far

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                  • S Steve

                    I don't even think Beauden Barrett himself wants to be the fullback.

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                    @Steve I'm not sure BB has wanted to play rugby for the last few years to be fair.

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                    • ChrisC Chris

                      Problem is Foster doesn't even have any idea why he selects players,I am sure he uses the dartboard method, that is pretty clear over the Foster error oops era.

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                      @Chris said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                      Problem is Foster doesn't even have any idea why he selects players,I am sure he uses the dartboard method, that is pretty clear over the Foster error oops era.

                      Where as many on rugby forums pick theirs from where the players are from, or what looked good on tv highlights. If only we knew what was best huh??๐Ÿ˜Š

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                      • Dan54D Dan54

                        @Chris said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                        Problem is Foster doesn't even have any idea why he selects players,I am sure he uses the dartboard method, that is pretty clear over the Foster error oops era.

                        Where as many on rugby forums pick theirs from where the players are from, or what looked good on tv highlights. If only we knew what was best huh??๐Ÿ˜Š

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                        @Dan54

                        Well Foster doesn't, his record speaks for it's self absolutely shit.

                        He couldn't pick his nose.

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                        • ChrisC Chris

                          @Dan54

                          Well Foster doesn't, his record speaks for it's self absolutely shit.

                          He couldn't pick his nose.

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                          Dan54
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                          @Chris I actually like the team picked for this test, and actually like the 36 man squad. So I guess I another huh, I will obviously have to bow to your superior knowledge.

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                            @Chris I actually like the team picked for this test, and actually like the 36 man squad. So I guess I another huh, I will obviously have to bow to your superior knowledge.

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                            @Dan54 So you like Beauden at 15? He's five years past his best and has been playing 10 all season (poorly). He's undropable it seems despite being below par for nearly the entirety of Foster's reign.

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                            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                              @Dan54 So you like Beauden at 15? He's five years past his best and has been playing 10 all season (poorly). He's undropable it seems despite being below par for nearly the entirety of Foster's reign.

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                              Kiwiwomble
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                              @KiwiMurph its a double kick in the nuts, he doesnt have that extra motivation to improve...keeps his spot and keeps getting paid even when not trying...and young guys coming through are killing themselves to get a shot and getting disheartened when they dont get it....and then get blast in the media if they go overseas

                              same can be said for frizell is seems

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                              • Dan54D Dan54

                                @Chris I actually like the team picked for this test, and actually like the 36 man squad. So I guess I another huh, I will obviously have to bow to your superior knowledge.

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                                @Dan54

                                Haha no accounting for taste is there,
                                I think your selection standard is of a very low standard.

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                                  I think Barrett is going to be the Mils of this year.

                                  If one of the young FBs gets a chance and shines, and he continues with the chip-kick exits, he'll be the big name dropping of the year.

                                  It's hard to get dropped - too hard under Fozzie - but I still see it happening.

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                                    Why has Roigard not been selected?
                                    He's rested and superior to Christie.

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                                      Why has Roigard not been selected?
                                      He's rested and superior to Christie.

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                                        If Dmac is starting, it would have been good to see SS in there as well. Potentially, the ABs territorial kicking game could have been improved significantly.
                                        BB... I will be screaming at the TV if we fuck around at our exits and put pressure on ourselves as we have been doing consistently since 2019. ....sigh... I know it is going to happen and I need to mentally prepare for it but the game is on at 4:00 in the morning here so alcohol is not an option.

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