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Argentina v All Blacks

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    I can see the ABs being whitewashed in this RC. They will face a fresh SA team whose major players won't be affected by the jet lag then an on fire Australian team, galvanized by Eddie Jones.

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      Just gotta be thankful that we're not playing at Eden Park, so Foster can't fuck that up

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        Well I'll go against the grain and say I really like that backline. The only change I'd make for the RWC is Jordan at 14 when he's fit. Very happy to see them giving DMac some time at 10, and excited to see what he can do with Jordie and Rieko outside him. I hope he really challenges Mo'unga for the starting 10 slot.

        BB at the back is purely an experience thing, he will be there to help organise the backline, particularly on defense which I suspect is what they are wanting SS to do more. Agree with others that I wouldn't start him at 10 anymore, but he's still very effective from 15.

        On the bench, we'd have ALB there if he wasn't suspended. Would like to see Roigard there but he is very green still.

        The forwards I am less convinced by. Would prefer Dalton starting at 7, though Cane has played well enough this year to keep his spot. Frizell I just do not understand at all and I don't think I ever will. Playing him repeatedly does not solve any of our problems at 6.

        @Stargazer is right I think when he said some selections are about giving players from the final another week off.

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        • No QuarterN No Quarter

          Well I'll go against the grain and say I really like that backline. The only change I'd make for the RWC is Jordan at 14 when he's fit. Very happy to see them giving DMac some time at 10, and excited to see what he can do with Jordie and Rieko outside him. I hope he really challenges Mo'unga for the starting 10 slot.

          BB at the back is purely an experience thing, he will be there to help organise the backline, particularly on defense which I suspect is what they are wanting SS to do more. Agree with others that I wouldn't start him at 10 anymore, but he's still very effective from 15.

          On the bench, we'd have ALB there if he wasn't suspended. Would like to see Roigard there but he is very green still.

          The forwards I am less convinced by. Would prefer Dalton starting at 7, though Cane has played well enough this year to keep his spot. Frizell I just do not understand at all and I don't think I ever will. Playing him repeatedly does not solve any of our problems at 6.

          @Stargazer is right I think when he said some selections are about giving players from the final another week off.

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          @No-Quarter said in Argentina v All Blacks:

          BB at the back is purely an experience thing, he will be there to help organise the backline, particularly on defense

          So funny, have you watched BB this year? Last year?

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          • No QuarterN No Quarter

            Well I'll go against the grain and say I really like that backline. The only change I'd make for the RWC is Jordan at 14 when he's fit. Very happy to see them giving DMac some time at 10, and excited to see what he can do with Jordie and Rieko outside him. I hope he really challenges Mo'unga for the starting 10 slot.

            BB at the back is purely an experience thing, he will be there to help organise the backline, particularly on defense which I suspect is what they are wanting SS to do more. Agree with others that I wouldn't start him at 10 anymore, but he's still very effective from 15.

            On the bench, we'd have ALB there if he wasn't suspended. Would like to see Roigard there but he is very green still.

            The forwards I am less convinced by. Would prefer Dalton starting at 7, though Cane has played well enough this year to keep his spot. Frizell I just do not understand at all and I don't think I ever will. Playing him repeatedly does not solve any of our problems at 6.

            @Stargazer is right I think when he said some selections are about giving players from the final another week off.

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            #274

            @No-Quarter said in Argentina v All Blacks:

            Well I'll go against the grain and say I really like that backline. The only change I'd make for the RWC is Jordan at 14 when he's fit. Very happy to see them giving DMac some time at 10, and excited to see what he can do with Jordie and Rieko outside him. I hope he really challenges Mo'unga for the starting 10 slot.

            BB at the back is purely an experience thing, he will be there to help organise the backline, particularly on defense which I suspect is what they are wanting SS to do more. Agree with others that I wouldn't start him at 10 anymore, but he's still very effective from 15.

            On the bench, we'd have ALB there if he wasn't suspended. Would like to see Roigard there but he is very green still.

            The forwards I am less convinced by. Would prefer Dalton starting at 7, though Cane has played well enough this year to keep his spot. Frizell I just do not understand at all and I don't think I ever will. Playing him repeatedly does not solve any of our problems at 6.

            @Stargazer is right I think when he said some selections are about giving players from the final another week off.

            Gives the fern an opportunity to talk up Akira Ioane ?

            Yeah I’m seriously scratching my head by this. For a country that historically has test class players growing on trees the drop down since Kaino has retired has been baffling.

            Is it that hard to find a big, scary, skilled munter to fill the void ?

            Someone should give Troy Flavell a call, he looked in great shape on that Match fit show a couple of years back.

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              @No-Quarter said in Argentina v All Blacks:

              BB at the back is purely an experience thing, he will be there to help organise the backline, particularly on defense

              So funny, have you watched BB this year? Last year?

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              @Machpants said in Argentina v All Blacks:

              @No-Quarter said in Argentina v All Blacks:

              BB at the back is purely an experience thing, he will be there to help organise the backline, particularly on defense

              So funny, have you watched BB this year? Last year?

              Bumble around and then throw a shit pass to no one or someone not expecting it is top notch defence

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              • BonesB Bones

                @Machpants said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                @No-Quarter said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                BB at the back is purely an experience thing, he will be there to help organise the backline, particularly on defense

                So funny, have you watched BB this year? Last year?

                Bumble around and then throw a shit pass to no one or someone not expecting it is top notch defence

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                @Bones said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                @Machpants said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                @No-Quarter said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                BB at the back is purely an experience thing, he will be there to help organise the backline, particularly on defense

                So funny, have you watched BB this year? Last year?

                Bumble around and then throw a shit pass to no one or someone not expecting it is top notch defence

                Don't forget his chip kicks from within the 22, DEFENCE DEFENCE! Inspiring. SS got nothing on that, with his boring kicking into their half

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                  @Bones said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                  @Machpants said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                  @No-Quarter said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                  BB at the back is purely an experience thing, he will be there to help organise the backline, particularly on defense

                  So funny, have you watched BB this year? Last year?

                  Bumble around and then throw a shit pass to no one or someone not expecting it is top notch defence

                  Don't forget his chip kicks from within the 22, DEFENCE DEFENCE! Inspiring. SS got nothing on that, with his boring kicking into their half

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                  @Machpants who wants a player that can do that as well as link extremely well with those around him, plus chase the kick? Yuck no

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                    Vaai better start to show something. Another guy who is leading a charmed life.

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                    @akan004 said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                    Vaai better start to show something. Another guy who is leading a charmed life.

                    He better add some muscle to his game.

                    Otherwise pretty Vaai for a light guy.

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                      No Quarter
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                      Admittedly I didn't watch a great deal of Super rugby this year bar the finals, but I feel like the legend of SS grows by the day. We'll be at Ngatai levels soon if they don't pick him for the next test.

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                      • No QuarterN No Quarter

                        Admittedly I didn't watch a great deal of Super rugby this year bar the finals, but I feel like the legend of SS grows by the day. We'll be at Ngatai levels soon if they don't pick him for the next test.

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                        @No-Quarter said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                        Admittedly I didn't watch a great deal of Super rugby this year bar the finals, but I feel like the legend of SS grows by the day. We'll be at Ngatai levels soon if they don't pick him for the next test.

                        LOL what? Ngatai was good at SR (and never great - which is the ironic point of the Maori Jesus joke), SS is the best player this year. Full stop. The guy in his jersey is someone playing on the fact he was great last decade

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                        • No QuarterN No Quarter

                          Admittedly I didn't watch a great deal of Super rugby this year bar the finals, but I feel like the legend of SS grows by the day. We'll be at Ngatai levels soon if they don't pick him for the next test.

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                          @No-Quarter the buzz has almost reached the Roger Randle peak.

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                          • No QuarterN No Quarter

                            Admittedly I didn't watch a great deal of Super rugby this year bar the finals, but I feel like the legend of SS grows by the day. We'll be at Ngatai levels soon if they don't pick him for the next test.

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                            @No-Quarter said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                            Admittedly I didn't watch a great deal of Super rugby this year

                            Explains why you are excited to watch BB.

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                            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                              @No-Quarter said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                              Admittedly I didn't watch a great deal of Super rugby this year

                              Explains why you are excited to watch BB.

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                              @KiwiMurph said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                              @No-Quarter said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                              Admittedly I didn't watch a great deal of Super rugby this year

                              Explains why you are excited to watch BB.

                              I guess not watched much rugby for quite a few years

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                                @No-Quarter the buzz has almost reached the Roger Randle peak.

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                                    • Joans Town JonesJ Joans Town Jones

                                      @taniwharugby what the fuck is this shit? They've got room for SB and a real greenhorn and an out of form CC and BB but nothing for one of the best backs over the last two years in SS???

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                                      @Joans-Town-Jones said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                                      @taniwharugby what the fuck is this shit? They've got room for SB and a real greenhorn and an out of form CC and BB but nothing for one of the best backs over the last two years in SS???

                                      Foster special. Sooner we’re rid of the muppet the better.

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                                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                        @Bones said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                                        @Victor-Meldrew said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                                        From what Foster said, they def. rate SS but have a few concerns about defence

                                        Are we still trying to believe what Foster says? Just like last year he was selecting the hookers on form eh...but then changed his tune and you even bought that!

                                        He just makes shit up to tell the media/public.

                                        Selecting Jordan and Clarke but not selecting Stevenson because of defence is about as believable as that time I rode a horse to the sun.

                                        Meanwhile Beauden's most recent defensive play for the ABs was getting himself binned at Twickenham which was a huge contributing factor in the ABs throwing away a win.

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                                        @KiwiMurph and I still maintain, the ref got that wrong. BB was perfectly legal in what he did.

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                                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                          @Crazy-Horse when Henry/Hansen (less late Hansen) used to say it, and I disagreed, I trusted their decision making more, they had the results to back up thier decisions, Foster doesnt.

                                          Sure he has a had a poor record, alot will largely get forgotten if he pulls off the RWC, but for that, he needs to be bold, nothing here screams bold.

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                                          @taniwharugby and I think that is where NZ rugby has lost. I'll never forget a series loss at home, and two losses for the first time. Hell, I still haven't forgiven Hansen for Chicago and the Lions. ABs rugby is dead if tests in-between WC are forgotten. You could see the hurt in Justin Marshall's eyes after Ireland.

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