All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2
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@DaGrubster said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
I agree, I think Scooter is a starter with Whitelock most at risk.
Scooter’s workrate & physicality has been a big reason for our lack looking as good as it has in the 2 tests
If Frizzell is able to keep this level of performance then I am quite happy to see us rotating the 3 locks heavily with Vai’i used mainly as a sub
Frizzell has been a revelation, I didn’t see that coming,
was convinced they would have to play scooter there ,
now if he can keep that going, we have a selection headache , a good one
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
@DaGrubster said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
I agree, I think Scooter is a starter with Whitelock most at risk.
Scooter’s workrate & physicality has been a big reason for our lack looking as good as it has in the 2 tests
If Frizzell is able to keep this level of performance then I am quite happy to see us rotating the 3 locks heavily with Vai’i used mainly as a sub
Frizzell has been a revelation, I didn’t see that coming,
was convinced they would have to play scooter there ,
now if he can keep that going, we have a selection headache , a good one
Sadly for Whitelock I think his best days are past him, not quite mobile enough, not quite physical enough.
Retallick and Scooter are definitely the best combination, locking these days is a little bit less (though still very important) about the lineout and more about moving bodies at the ruck and being able to carry the ball.
It's work rate and physicality and unfortunately for Whitelock, Retallick and scooter are just more physical than him.
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@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
@DaGrubster said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
I agree, I think Scooter is a starter with Whitelock most at risk.
Scooter’s workrate & physicality has been a big reason for our lack looking as good as it has in the 2 tests
If Frizzell is able to keep this level of performance then I am quite happy to see us rotating the 3 locks heavily with Vai’i used mainly as a sub
Frizzell has been a revelation, I didn’t see that coming,
was convinced they would have to play scooter there ,
now if he can keep that going, we have a selection headache , a good one
Sadly for Whitelock I think his best days are past him, not quite mobile enough, not quite physical enough.
Retallick and Scooter are definitely the best combination, locking these days is a little bit less (though still very important) about the lineout and more about moving bodies at the ruck and being able to carry the ball.
It's work rate and physicality and unfortunately for Whitelock, Retallick and scooter are just more physical than him.
@Windows97 Can't agree with this. If anything I think Whitelock has rediscovered some of his best form over the last two years after a period of average play. He was outstanding in black last year and he has been a standout in the few matches he played in SR this year, particularly the final.
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@Windows97 Can't agree with this. If anything I think Whitelock has rediscovered some of his best form over the last two years after a period of average play. He was outstanding in black last year and he has been a standout in the few matches he played in SR this year, particularly the final.
@akan004 said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
@Windows97 Can't agree with this. If anything I think Whitelock has rediscovered some of his best form over the last two years after a period of average play. He was outstanding in black last year and he has been a standout in the few matches he played in SR this year, particularly the final.
Yeah, and the lineout work (both offensive and defensive) is prime Matfield quality.
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@Windows97 Can't agree with this. If anything I think Whitelock has rediscovered some of his best form over the last two years after a period of average play. He was outstanding in black last year and he has been a standout in the few matches he played in SR this year, particularly the final.
@akan004 I agree that Whitelock has run into some great form over the last 12 months, but I'd still have BBBR and Scooter marginally ahead of him.
Not that bothered which of three are on the field as we are lucky to have three great options all carrying good form.
I think SW is a good bench option with his experience and leadership - especially if we are subbing Cane off and bringing him on at about the same time.
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@akan004 I agree that Whitelock has run into some great form over the last 12 months, but I'd still have BBBR and Scooter marginally ahead of him.
Not that bothered which of three are on the field as we are lucky to have three great options all carrying good form.
I think SW is a good bench option with his experience and leadership - especially if we are subbing Cane off and bringing him on at about the same time.
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@Bones said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
@ACT-Crusader would've been interesting to see what the assessment of Jordan's game would be if he'd given away an intercept try.
Poor old, Will.
We're back to critiquing him for mistakes he didn't make!
@Chris-B said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
@Bones said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
@ACT-Crusader would've been interesting to see what the assessment of Jordan's game would be if he'd given away an intercept try.
Poor old, Will.
We're back to critiquing him for mistakes he didn't make!
He did his best to give the ball away, but the Bok player couldn't hold onto the pass!
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
@Bones said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
@ACT-Crusader would've been interesting to see what the assessment of Jordan's game would be if he'd given away an intercept try.
Poor old, Will.
We're back to critiquing him for mistakes he didn't make!
He did his best to give the ball away, but the Bok player couldn't hold onto the pass!
@canefan said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
@Bones said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
@ACT-Crusader would've been interesting to see what the assessment of Jordan's game would be if he'd given away an intercept try.
Poor old, Will.
We're back to critiquing him for mistakes he didn't make!
He did his best to give the ball away, but the Bok player couldn't hold onto the pass!
He tantalizingly floated the pass just out of Faf's reach and should have drawn the yellow card he was aiming for.
It's more a commentary on Bones' almost relentless negativity on all things Jordan.
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@Bones said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
@ACT-Crusader would've been interesting to see what the assessment of Jordan's game would be if he'd given away an intercept try.
Poor old, Will.
We're back to critiquing him for mistakes he didn't make!
@Chris-B said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
@Bones said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
@ACT-Crusader would've been interesting to see what the assessment of Jordan's game would be if he'd given away an intercept try.
Poor old, Will.
We're back to critiquing him for mistakes he didn't make!
I think you'll find he quite clearly made that mistake, just Faf couldn't convert!
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@DaGrubster Thanks mate I didn't watch the game
I’m your eyes and ears Bones!
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Well done ABs. Deserved, and GOOD victory.
Boks were comprehensively outplayed in the first 20 minutes. The most one-sided period I've seen in a clash between our countries for a while.
From there, it was always going to be tough for the Boks although to their credit they did eventually manage to mount some opposition.
Hopefully some useful lessons learnt on the night and areas that need work well identified for the Boks. -
Just getting around to this now
The number of times Nesbitt calls any Books backline player with dark skin "Mapimpi" is utterly embarrassing.
@NTA said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
Just getting around to this now
The number of times Nesbitt calls any Books backline player with dark skin "Mapimpi" is utterly embarrassing.
If you’re going to critique him at least get the vowels in his name in the right order. It’s Nisbett, not Nesbitt.
“That Nisbo, ( not Nesbo ) sure is a shit commentator!”
But yeah, time to be put out to pasture. Not that he’s ever been anything more than someone who blandly calls the play, at least back in the day he could get players right.
The Gold watch is long overdue.
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@NTA said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
Just getting around to this now
The number of times Nesbitt calls any Books backline player with dark skin "Mapimpi" is utterly embarrassing.
If you’re going to critique him at least get the vowels in his name in the right order. It’s Nisbett, not Nesbitt.
“That Nisbo, ( not Nesbo ) sure is a shit commentator!”
But yeah, time to be put out to pasture. Not that he’s ever been anything more than someone who blandly calls the play, at least back in the day he could get players right.
The Gold watch is long overdue.
@MN5 said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
Not that he’s ever been anything more than someone who blandly calls the play
Count your blessings - at least he isn't Miles Harrison
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@ACT-Crusader would've been interesting to see what the assessment of Jordan's game would be if he'd given away an intercept try.
@Bones said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
@ACT-Crusader would've been interesting to see what the assessment of Jordan's game would be if he'd given away an intercept try.
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A few random thoughts:
- First 20 built on very quick ball. As Matt Gitteau says, a 10 can't really choose a bad option off quick, go forward ball. Once Boks slowed our ball the backline reverted to type;
- We actually came out of blocks well after HT. First Boks try came after rather odd penalty when Faf tripped over a rolling Brodie. Then their caterpillar maul executed two changes of direction and did the business. That was 53 in;
- At that point Boks got fired up and for a period seemed to disrupt our rucks with Quagga walking through. Hard to gauge how legal, but not blown for 5 - 10 minutes. For second try our backline defence appearded to be asleep and Boks ran from halfway with ABs letting them run TO them. As a result tackles were made well past gainline with ball pretty quick. Spread the other way, and although Le Roux pass a foot forward, had it not been try would still have been scored, and Boks were due a 50:50 call. So Boks had a best a good 15 minutes; and
- Why did Ofa have his kit on as if on bench? The sheds interview suggested he had match shorts on. Pretty odd.
