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All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2

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  • BonesB Bones

    @DaGrubster Thanks mate I didn't watch the game 😬

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    @Bones

    I’m your eyes and ears Bones!

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      Well done ABs. Deserved, and GOOD victory.
      Boks were comprehensively outplayed in the first 20 minutes. The most one-sided period I've seen in a clash between our countries for a while.
      From there, it was always going to be tough for the Boks although to their credit they did eventually manage to mount some opposition.
      Hopefully some useful lessons learnt on the night and areas that need work well identified for the Boks.

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      • NTAN NTA

        Just getting around to this now

        The number of times Nesbitt calls any Books backline player with dark skin "Mapimpi" is utterly embarrassing.

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        @NTA said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

        Just getting around to this now

        The number of times Nesbitt calls any Books backline player with dark skin "Mapimpi" is utterly embarrassing.

        If you’re going to critique him at least get the vowels in his name in the right order. It’s Nisbett, not Nesbitt.

        “That Nisbo, ( not Nesbo ) sure is a shit commentator!”

        But yeah, time to be put out to pasture. Not that he’s ever been anything more than someone who blandly calls the play, at least back in the day he could get players right.

        The Gold watch is long overdue.

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          South African pundits’ analysis of what went wrong:

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            After watching a replay of the game tonight Nisbett mis-identified plenty of AB players too.

            The commentators watch the game on a monitor smaller than the average TV, not out the window of the broadcasting room.

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              I love Nisbett’s passion for the game. He’s done a mostly brilliant job at calling All Blacks games for many years, but yeah at the end of 2023 he should hang up his microphone.

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              • MN5M MN5

                @NTA said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

                Just getting around to this now

                The number of times Nesbitt calls any Books backline player with dark skin "Mapimpi" is utterly embarrassing.

                If you’re going to critique him at least get the vowels in his name in the right order. It’s Nisbett, not Nesbitt.

                “That Nisbo, ( not Nesbo ) sure is a shit commentator!”

                But yeah, time to be put out to pasture. Not that he’s ever been anything more than someone who blandly calls the play, at least back in the day he could get players right.

                The Gold watch is long overdue.

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                @MN5 said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

                Not that he’s ever been anything more than someone who blandly calls the play

                Count your blessings - at least he isn't Miles Harrison

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                • BonesB Bones

                  @ACT-Crusader would've been interesting to see what the assessment of Jordan's game would be if he'd given away an intercept try.

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                  @Bones said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

                  @ACT-Crusader would've been interesting to see what the assessment of Jordan's game would be if he'd given away an intercept try.

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                  • sparkyS sparky

                    South African pundits’ analysis of what went wrong:

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                    @sparky said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

                    South African pundits’ analysis of what went wrong:

                    What is Afrikaans for 'dry powder'?

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                        A few random thoughts:

                        • First 20 built on very quick ball. As Matt Gitteau says, a 10 can't really choose a bad option off quick, go forward ball. Once Boks slowed our ball the backline reverted to type;
                        • We actually came out of blocks well after HT. First Boks try came after rather odd penalty when Faf tripped over a rolling Brodie. Then their caterpillar maul executed two changes of direction and did the business. That was 53 in;
                        • At that point Boks got fired up and for a period seemed to disrupt our rucks with Quagga walking through. Hard to gauge how legal, but not blown for 5 - 10 minutes. For second try our backline defence appearded to be asleep and Boks ran from halfway with ABs letting them run TO them. As a result tackles were made well past gainline with ball pretty quick. Spread the other way, and although Le Roux pass a foot forward, had it not been try would still have been scored, and Boks were due a 50:50 call. So Boks had a best a good 15 minutes; and
                        • Why did Ofa have his kit on as if on bench? The sheds interview suggested he had match shorts on. Pretty odd.
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                          Ofa would have been part of warm up.

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                          • mikedogzM mikedogz

                            Ofa would have been part of warm up.

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                            @mikedogz Upstairs for thinking!

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                            • Windows97W Windows97

                              @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

                              @DaGrubster said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

                              @ACT-Crusader

                              I agree, I think Scooter is a starter with Whitelock most at risk.

                              Scooter’s workrate & physicality has been a big reason for our lack looking as good as it has in the 2 tests

                              If Frizzell is able to keep this level of performance then I am quite happy to see us rotating the 3 locks heavily with Vai’i used mainly as a sub

                              Frizzell has been a revelation, I didn’t see that coming,

                              was convinced they would have to play scooter there ,

                              now if he can keep that going, we have a selection headache , a good one

                              Sadly for Whitelock I think his best days are past him, not quite mobile enough, not quite physical enough.

                              Retallick and Scooter are definitely the best combination, locking these days is a little bit less (though still very important) about the lineout and more about moving bodies at the ruck and being able to carry the ball.

                              It's work rate and physicality and unfortunately for Whitelock, Retallick and scooter are just more physical than him.

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                              @Windows97 said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

                              @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

                              @DaGrubster said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

                              @ACT-Crusader

                              I agree, I think Scooter is a starter with Whitelock most at risk.

                              Scooter’s workrate & physicality has been a big reason for our lack looking as good as it has in the 2 tests

                              If Frizzell is able to keep this level of performance then I am quite happy to see us rotating the 3 locks heavily with Vai’i used mainly as a sub

                              Frizzell has been a revelation, I didn’t see that coming,

                              was convinced they would have to play scooter there ,

                              now if he can keep that going, we have a selection headache , a good one

                              Sadly for Whitelock I think his best days are past him, not quite mobile enough, not quite physical enough.

                              Retallick and Scooter are definitely the best combination, locking these days is a little bit less (though still very important) about the lineout and more about moving bodies at the ruck and being able to carry the ball.

                              It's work rate and physicality and unfortunately for Whitelock, Retallick and scooter are just more physical than him.

                              And yet the last rugby game he played he was the best lock on the park out of the 4 AB locks playing.

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                              • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                @Windows97 said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

                                @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

                                @DaGrubster said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

                                @ACT-Crusader

                                I agree, I think Scooter is a starter with Whitelock most at risk.

                                Scooter’s workrate & physicality has been a big reason for our lack looking as good as it has in the 2 tests

                                If Frizzell is able to keep this level of performance then I am quite happy to see us rotating the 3 locks heavily with Vai’i used mainly as a sub

                                Frizzell has been a revelation, I didn’t see that coming,

                                was convinced they would have to play scooter there ,

                                now if he can keep that going, we have a selection headache , a good one

                                Sadly for Whitelock I think his best days are past him, not quite mobile enough, not quite physical enough.

                                Retallick and Scooter are definitely the best combination, locking these days is a little bit less (though still very important) about the lineout and more about moving bodies at the ruck and being able to carry the ball.

                                It's work rate and physicality and unfortunately for Whitelock, Retallick and scooter are just more physical than him.

                                And yet the last rugby game he played he was the best lock on the park out of the 4 AB locks playing.

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                                @ACT-Crusader This selection dilemma certainly is a different story to 12 months ago.

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                                  For the World Cup knockouts, there’s no doubt in my mind that Sam Whitelock if fit starts. One of the all-times greats in Finals Rugby.

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                                  • P pakman

                                    @Bones said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

                                    @ACT-Crusader would've been interesting to see what the assessment of Jordan's game would be if he'd given away an intercept try.

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                                    @pakman Is there something specific I should be looking for?

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                                    • BonesB Bones

                                      @pakman Is there something specific I should be looking for?

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                                      @Bones TAS seems to think this bloke Jordan can play a bit?

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                                        @Bones TAS seems to think this bloke Jordan can play a bit?

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                                        @pakman said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

                                        @Bones TAS seems to think this bloke Jordan can play a bit?

                                        He definitely can. What did they say about his pass to Faf?

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                                        • BonesB Bones

                                          @pakman said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

                                          @Bones TAS seems to think this bloke Jordan can play a bit?

                                          He definitely can. What did they say about his pass to Faf?

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                                          @Bones For some reason they missed that.

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