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I don't think anyone disagrees with protecting female sport. I think the argument is how do we best accommodate those with a medical condition which, from what I've read & been told, isn't as simple as XX and XY.
The IAAF recognise the latter and have done their best to achieve the former. Putting aside any sympathy one has for her, if Semenya doesn't want to go along with the rules, then she doesn't compete.
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@Bones said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:
@voodoo said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:
@Bones said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:
@voodoo jesus. You want to be careful when throwing out initials for favoured events I would've thought. But I'm not a dad so....
Mind always in the gutter Bones!
And no need to call me Jesus bro, seems overkill.
Now you're trying to get me banned
It’s a long queue
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When you limit replies because you're quickly being ratioed
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Today I learned what ratioed meant.
Been listening to a Jordan Peterson podcast with Helen Joyce today. Fascinating stuff about the mind and actions of teens going through puberty.
It’s quite long but if you have an interest in this stuff -
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Transwomen were finally banned from competitive cycling. Trans Armstrong aka Rhys McKinnon aka Rachel McKinnon aka Veronica Ivy probably did more harm than anyone to transwomen competing in cycling but he was competing in masters events . The final straw was a trans woman winning an actual title . The fact a fat slob like Rhys was ever competitive actually proved the point about biological differences between men and women .
Rhys spent years doing things like mocking a terminally ill feminist and suggesting that feminists “die in a grease fire” while being the public face of transwomen in cycling and appearing on talk shows etc. He clashed with Martina Navratilova a couple of times, she got the last laugh though
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Good on these two women for calling it out for what it is
Fucking ridiculous
Hopefully the tide is turning
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New category being trialled:
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@MajorRage said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:
New category being trialled:
oh just fuck off
There'll be some bloke who'll net 27 golds in one meet ffs
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@MiketheSnow said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:
@MajorRage said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:
New category being trialled:
oh just fuck off
There'll be some bloke who'll net 27 golds in one meet ffs
Likely, as he'll probably be the only one competing.
I actually think this is a good move as it will either provide a platform for trans people to compete more fairly or it will just show it up for the extremely niche issue that it is.
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@Catogrande it's open isn't it? Why wouldn't men enter both comps, bonus being if they miss out in the men's it provides medal insurance.
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@Bones said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:
@Catogrande it's open isn't it? Why wouldn't men enter both comps, bonus being if they miss out in the men's it provides medal insurance.
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Not quite too sure how outraged to be about this one.
After all we had a chick fill in for us in our indoor team back in my late teens who went on to represent NZ and just this summer the potential future Mrs MN5 did bowl me out in a bit of BYC while I was trying to chug a beer and bat one handed at the same time
Transgender debate, in sport, in general
287. Trans: When Ideology Meets Reality | Helen Joyce — The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
