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All Blacks 2023

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  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

    Today was a close one but I reckon we're in a good spot

    Barring a catastrophic injury toll we've got options everywhere. We've got a few ways to play.

    We are as good a shot as anyone to win it. Yes it's a tough draw, but no tougher than any other top 4 side.

    Bring it

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    @mariner4life Yeah - I'm pretty happy with where we are. We've probably got a stronger team than the 2011 squad - and before Danny, Colin and Azza went down.

    For France and Ireland - remember how much pressure we were under in 2011, having not won for 24 years.

    Those guys are at 36 and never.

    That has impacts!

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    • Chris B.C Chris B.

      @mariner4life Yeah - I'm pretty happy with where we are. We've probably got a stronger team than the 2011 squad - and before Danny, Colin and Azza went down.

      For France and Ireland - remember how much pressure we were under in 2011, having not won for 24 years.

      Those guys are at 36 and never.

      That has impacts!

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      @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2023:

      @mariner4life Yeah - I'm pretty happy with where we are. We've probably got a stronger team than the 2011 squad - and before Danny, Colin and Azza went down.

      For France and Ireland - remember how much pressure we were under in 2011, having not won for 24 years.

      Those guys are at 36 and never.

      That has impacts!

      "Uneasy is the head that wears a crown". Shakespeare. Neither team has had to carry the burden of the favourite tag before. I look forward to seeing them buckle under it

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      • Chris B.C Chris B.

        @mariner4life Yeah - I'm pretty happy with where we are. We've probably got a stronger team than the 2011 squad - and before Danny, Colin and Azza went down.

        For France and Ireland - remember how much pressure we were under in 2011, having not won for 24 years.

        Those guys are at 36 and never.

        That has impacts!

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        @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2023:

        We've probably got a stronger team than the 2011 squad

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        https://www.allblacks.com/news/remembering-the-all-blacks-2011-rugby-world-cup-squad/

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          Why are we playing SA again? Not so keen on us meeting a potential quarter finalist in a warmup game.

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          • Billy TellB Billy Tell

            Why are we playing SA again? Not so keen on us meeting a potential quarter finalist in a warmup game.

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            @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2023:

            Why are we playing SA again? Not so keen on us meeting a potential quarter finalist in a warmup game.

            💰 💰 💰

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            • Billy TellB Billy Tell

              Why are we playing SA again? Not so keen on us meeting a potential quarter finalist in a warmup game.

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              @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2023:

              Why are we playing SA again? Not so keen on us meeting a potential quarter finalist in a warmup game.

              Who else do we play, gotta be a decent team otherwise pointless, and they are all potential 1/4 or semi finalists. Most of the others aren't interested as the will have just done the summer nations thing

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              • sparkyS sparky

                @Chris-B This is a stronger squad than 2019 and we are not going there with the pressure of being World Champs, hosts or favourites.

                Really excited to see how far this side can go in France.

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                @sparky Yes it is. 2019 was an absolute mess with guys out of position, Savea, Cane and Todd all in the 23, Brodie Retallick clearly playing injured, 4 average midfield backs constantly getting rotated out for each other, about 10 guys used at 6 before chucking Scott Barrett there for the SF having never played there in his life, Mo'unga and BB playing at 10 and 15 when they didn't know what they were doing out there as there was no actual game plan as to how they were gonna play (it works now as Mo'unga control the play from first receiver now and BB actually plays as a 15), where as back then BB would just push his way into 10 and Mo'unga was virtually unemployed out there. Guys like Ta'avao and Tuipulotu somehow squeezed their way into the 23 , anyone outside of Crusaders territory could have told you that Bridge shouldn't have been there despite constantly scoring tries against inferior SR opposition, Reece also wasn't ready back then (yes I know, there was that try in pool play against the Boks) but that was about it, and the less said about Jordie Barrett on the wing, the better.

                That side that Hansen picked out of a weet bix box was a complete abortion. He really was out of his depth once Wayne Smith left and left Fozzie to pick up the pieces and rebuild an absolute shambles that Shag left. It took a while, but I feel we've made progress of late. Hopefully we see it come WC time.

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                  Fozzie was part of the Hansen team though ..

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                    What do we know about Brodie Retallick’s and Braydon Ennor’s knee injuries?

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                    • sparkyS sparky

                      What do we know about Brodie Retallick’s and Braydon Ennor’s knee injuries?

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                      @sparky said in All Blacks 2023:

                      What do we know about Brodie Retallick’s and Braydon Ennor’s knee injuries?

                      Being scanned, nothing else yet. I guess more info might be forthcoming at the announcement tomorrow

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                        @sparky said in All Blacks 2023:

                        What do we know about Brodie Retallick’s and Braydon Ennor’s knee injuries?

                        Being scanned, nothing else yet. I guess more info might be forthcoming at the announcement tomorrow

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                        @Machpants

                        Foster seemed to say something about Ennor’s injury being worse than Retallick’s.

                        If Ennor’s not going be available for a few weeks, that might well cement David Havili’s place ahead of him.

                        If Brodie’s going to need time to recover, how long do we give him? Does that end up meaning we take an extra Lock and one less Back Row player?

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                          @Machpants

                          Foster seemed to say something about Ennor’s injury being worse than Retallick’s.

                          If Ennor’s not going be available for a few weeks, that might well cement David Havili’s place ahead of him.

                          If Brodie’s going to need time to recover, how long do we give him? Does that end up meaning we take an extra Lock and one less Back Row player?

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                          @sparky dont need Brodie coming in cold again...

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                            Liam Napier reporting Brodie could miss 2 WC games and Ennor could miss the whole Cup

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                              Liam Napier reporting Brodie could miss 2 WC games and Ennor could miss the whole Cup

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                              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2023:

                              Liam Napier reporting Brodie could miss 2 WC games and Ennor could miss the whole Cup

                              Damn. Just as I was coming around to Ennor a little bit. He was one of the only bright sparks in the first half yesterday. We have Sam and Scooter, so there is less pressure on BBBR to come back quick

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                              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                Liam Napier reporting Brodie could miss 2 WC games and Ennor could miss the whole Cup

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                                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2023:

                                Liam Napier reporting Brodie could miss 2 WC games and Ennor could miss the whole Cup

                                Not too bad an outcome imo. I feared BBBR would have been out of the whole thing. A shame about Ennor, was starting to look good.

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                                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                  Liam Napier reporting Brodie could miss 2 WC games and Ennor could miss the whole Cup

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                                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2023:

                                  Liam Napier reporting Brodie could miss 2 WC games and Ennor could miss the whole Cup

                                  Still sucks that he's not there for France, but if he can play Minnow 2 then Italy, that's a good warm into knock outs

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                                    Liam Napier reporting Brodie could miss 2 WC games and Ennor could miss the whole Cup

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                                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2023:

                                    Liam Napier reporting Brodie could miss 2 WC games and Ennor could miss the whole Cup

                                    Liam Napier’s got the best sauces.

                                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-2023-rugby-world-cup-squad-big-names-could-miss-out-late-injury-causes-serious-doubt/5CEY2UNQ3BHXLP5LPOANEVYGHY/

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                                      Finau and Frizell could be used at lock (starter or reserve) in some pool games.

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                                      • sparkyS sparky

                                        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2023:

                                        Liam Napier reporting Brodie could miss 2 WC games and Ennor could miss the whole Cup

                                        Liam Napier’s got the best sauces.

                                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-2023-rugby-world-cup-squad-big-names-could-miss-out-late-injury-causes-serious-doubt/5CEY2UNQ3BHXLP5LPOANEVYGHY/

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                                        Bovidae
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                                        @sparky What's he saying? (Paywalled)

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                                        • sparkyS sparky

                                          @Machpants

                                          Foster seemed to say something about Ennor’s injury being worse than Retallick’s.

                                          If Ennor’s not going be available for a few weeks, that might well cement David Havili’s place ahead of him.

                                          If Brodie’s going to need time to recover, how long do we give him? Does that end up meaning we take an extra Lock and one less Back Row player?

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                                          @sparky said in All Blacks 2023:

                                          @Machpants

                                          Foster seemed to say something about Ennor’s injury being worse than Retallick’s.

                                          If Ennor’s not going be available for a few weeks, that might well cement David Havili’s place ahead of him.

                                          If Brodie’s going to need time to recover, how long do we give him? Does that end up meaning we take an extra Lock and one less Back Row player?

                                          I hope Dallas Mcleod is ahead of Havili.
                                          I mean, if we want to have any sort of go-forward at 12 if Jordie is unavailable.

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