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All Blacks 2023

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  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

    Liam Napier reporting Brodie could miss 2 WC games and Ennor could miss the whole Cup

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    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2023:

    Liam Napier reporting Brodie could miss 2 WC games and Ennor could miss the whole Cup

    Damn. Just as I was coming around to Ennor a little bit. He was one of the only bright sparks in the first half yesterday. We have Sam and Scooter, so there is less pressure on BBBR to come back quick

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    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

      Liam Napier reporting Brodie could miss 2 WC games and Ennor could miss the whole Cup

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      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2023:

      Liam Napier reporting Brodie could miss 2 WC games and Ennor could miss the whole Cup

      Not too bad an outcome imo. I feared BBBR would have been out of the whole thing. A shame about Ennor, was starting to look good.

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      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

        Liam Napier reporting Brodie could miss 2 WC games and Ennor could miss the whole Cup

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        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2023:

        Liam Napier reporting Brodie could miss 2 WC games and Ennor could miss the whole Cup

        Still sucks that he's not there for France, but if he can play Minnow 2 then Italy, that's a good warm into knock outs

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        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

          Liam Napier reporting Brodie could miss 2 WC games and Ennor could miss the whole Cup

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          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2023:

          Liam Napier reporting Brodie could miss 2 WC games and Ennor could miss the whole Cup

          Liam Napier’s got the best sauces.

          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-2023-rugby-world-cup-squad-big-names-could-miss-out-late-injury-causes-serious-doubt/5CEY2UNQ3BHXLP5LPOANEVYGHY/

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            Finau and Frizell could be used at lock (starter or reserve) in some pool games.

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            • sparkyS sparky

              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2023:

              Liam Napier reporting Brodie could miss 2 WC games and Ennor could miss the whole Cup

              Liam Napier’s got the best sauces.

              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-2023-rugby-world-cup-squad-big-names-could-miss-out-late-injury-causes-serious-doubt/5CEY2UNQ3BHXLP5LPOANEVYGHY/

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              @sparky What's he saying? (Paywalled)

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              • sparkyS sparky

                @Machpants

                Foster seemed to say something about Ennor’s injury being worse than Retallick’s.

                If Ennor’s not going be available for a few weeks, that might well cement David Havili’s place ahead of him.

                If Brodie’s going to need time to recover, how long do we give him? Does that end up meaning we take an extra Lock and one less Back Row player?

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                @sparky said in All Blacks 2023:

                @Machpants

                Foster seemed to say something about Ennor’s injury being worse than Retallick’s.

                If Ennor’s not going be available for a few weeks, that might well cement David Havili’s place ahead of him.

                If Brodie’s going to need time to recover, how long do we give him? Does that end up meaning we take an extra Lock and one less Back Row player?

                I hope Dallas Mcleod is ahead of Havili.
                I mean, if we want to have any sort of go-forward at 12 if Jordie is unavailable.

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                  @sparky said in All Blacks 2023:

                  @Machpants

                  Foster seemed to say something about Ennor’s injury being worse than Retallick’s.

                  If Ennor’s not going be available for a few weeks, that might well cement David Havili’s place ahead of him.

                  If Brodie’s going to need time to recover, how long do we give him? Does that end up meaning we take an extra Lock and one less Back Row player?

                  I hope Dallas Mcleod is ahead of Havili.
                  I mean, if we want to have any sort of go-forward at 12 if Jordie is unavailable.

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                  @Frank I think I was the only one not overly impressed with McLeod. Like he didn't fuck things up when he came on, but all he did was go straight to ground on the carry, and struggled to get guys to ground on defence. Looked nothing more than average to me, and I'd happily take Havili over him. At least Havili can cover a few positions.

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                    @Frank I think I was the only one not overly impressed with McLeod. Like he didn't fuck things up when he came on, but all he did was go straight to ground on the carry, and struggled to get guys to ground on defence. Looked nothing more than average to me, and I'd happily take Havili over him. At least Havili can cover a few positions.

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                    @African-Monkey
                    McLeod covers 2nd-five, wing, and possibly center at a stretch.

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                    • A African Monkey

                      @Frank I think I was the only one not overly impressed with McLeod. Like he didn't fuck things up when he came on, but all he did was go straight to ground on the carry, and struggled to get guys to ground on defence. Looked nothing more than average to me, and I'd happily take Havili over him. At least Havili can cover a few positions.

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                      @African-Monkey he threw a really nice dummy at one stage and showed a surprising turn of pace to go through a gap, think almost got an offload away at the end? That's not going straight to ground.

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                      • A African Monkey

                        @Frank I think I was the only one not overly impressed with McLeod. Like he didn't fuck things up when he came on, but all he did was go straight to ground on the carry, and struggled to get guys to ground on defence. Looked nothing more than average to me, and I'd happily take Havili over him. At least Havili can cover a few positions.

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                        @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2023:

                        I think I was the only one not overly impressed with McLeod. Like he didn't fuck things up when he came on

                        Without being sarcastic in any way, that's a big improvement over some of the midfield crap we've put up with in recent years

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                          The All Blacks account just posted this "highlights reel" of big Leicester on YouTube. Would they do that if he didn't make the squad? Or shouldn't we read anything into that post?

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                            The All Blacks account just posted this "highlights reel" of big Leicester on YouTube. Would they do that if he didn't make the squad? Or shouldn't we read anything into that post?

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                            @Stargazer I doubt the media types are told early

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                              The All Blacks account just posted this "highlights reel" of big Leicester on YouTube. Would they do that if he didn't make the squad? Or shouldn't we read anything into that post?

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                              @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2023:

                              The All Blacks account just posted this "highlights reel" of big Leicester on YouTube. Would they do that if he didn't make the squad? Or shouldn't we read anything into that post?

                              It would be hard to leave Leicester out after that. From what I’ve seen so far I’d start Telea at 11. So if role for last spot is off bench, with LF’s versatility it could be Clarke who misses out.

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                                @Stargazer I doubt the media types are told early

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                                @Machpants The guy or gal pressing the "publish" button won't, but their media manager might. If you look at the social media in a week before a game, you can with a reasonable amount of certainty guess who'll be named. I may be wrong, but I don't think that's any different now. There's a lot of coordination going on. Wait and see.

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                                  @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2023:

                                  The All Blacks account just posted this "highlights reel" of big Leicester on YouTube. Would they do that if he didn't make the squad? Or shouldn't we read anything into that post?

                                  It would be hard to leave Leicester out after that. From what I’ve seen so far I’d start Telea at 11. So if role for last spot is off bench, with LF’s versatility it could be Clarke who misses out.

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                                  @pakman I think with Ennor out, his stocks just went up - and I was nodding along at the versatility from the bench bit - but then remembered the other bench guy is ALB so centre is already covered.

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                                    Did anyone else notice that DH appeared to have bulked up in the Mako$ game, seemed much bigger to me, perhaps he went hard on the protein shakes during his injury spell.

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                                      @African-Monkey he threw a really nice dummy at one stage and showed a surprising turn of pace to go through a gap, think almost got an offload away at the end? That's not going straight to ground.

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                                      @Bones he made about 2 meters on the run before going straight to ground. Woohoo. Nothing wrong with what he did on that play, but you're making it out to be a lot more than what it was on that play.

                                      As I said, he didn't fuck up when he came on, but he was hardly anything special when he came on at the same time. If that was Havili doing that, people would be ripping him out, similar to the LF v CC debate where if CC had dropped the ball over the line like LF did, the whole forum would have jumped on him.

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                                        @Bones he made about 2 meters on the run before going straight to ground. Woohoo. Nothing wrong with what he did on that play, but you're making it out to be a lot more than what it was on that play.

                                        As I said, he didn't fuck up when he came on, but he was hardly anything special when he came on at the same time. If that was Havili doing that, people would be ripping him out, similar to the LF v CC debate where if CC had dropped the ball over the line like LF did, the whole forum would have jumped on him.

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                                        @African-Monkey With 4 runs for 1 metre, you might be right. That particular play just struck me as very Jordie. I'll have another watch of the game later to check.

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                                          Asafo Aumua in a moon boot from a post on Instagram. Not sure the extent of the injury but it begs the question, if he’s out, who’s next in line if any of the current AB hookers go down?

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