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All Blacks 2023

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  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

    @reprobate

    I think he's OK closing out a game and his D is excellent, but he struggles starting at 9.

    Not that it's likely, but would be interesting to see Christie starting behind the A pack. He got a lot of stick from Bled 2 but the forwards were pretty much under the pump in the first 20.

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2023:

    D is excellent

    Not sure I buy that.

    He seems to be a very good tackler for a halfback, but that doesn't necessarily make him an excellent defender.

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    • TimT Tim

      https://www.rugbypass.com/news/jordie-barrett-details-physical-transformation-for-midfield-switch/

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      @Tim said in All Blacks 2023:

      https://www.rugbypass.com/news/jordie-barrett-details-physical-transformation-for-midfield-switch/

      A little while back, we were trying to guess his weight,

      105 kgs

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      • BonesB Bones

        @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2023:

        D is excellent

        Not sure I buy that.

        He seems to be a very good tackler for a halfback, but that doesn't necessarily make him an excellent defender.

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        @Bones

        I re-watched the last 20 mins of the Bokke Test and thought his anticipation and tackling were both very good. Sadly, almost the opposite of his anticipation on attack and his speed of passing...

        I'd prefer Weber - or Roigard with a few games under his belt - though

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          We really want to speed up the game last twenty, esp versus sides which are all big units. There's is a reason they ask try to slow down every set piece. So we should have our fastest 9, or at least second fastest finish. Pick up the pace, ABs still have a fitness edge imo

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            Good on him
            https://fb.watch/mlFZUAJzal/

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              Wasn't aware of that - could well be a driver for ducking out early on the ABs.
              Screenshot_2023-08-12-15-53-35-58_a23b203fd3aafc6dcb84e438dda678b6.jpg

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                https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/2023-may-be-just-a-warm-up-ahead-of-tongas-big-rugby-world-cup-charge/

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                  My feeling is that Razor will try to change eligibilty rules and get someone like Richie back for the All Blacks if that is the case he could indeed go on to be a great in the 10 jersey. The island nations will be stronger not only in this World Cup, also in the future.

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                  • S SBW1

                    My feeling is that Razor will try to change eligibilty rules and get someone like Richie back for the All Blacks if that is the case he could indeed go on to be a great in the 10 jersey. The island nations will be stronger not only in this World Cup, also in the future.

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                    @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2023:

                    My feeling is that Razor will try to change eligibilty rules and get someone like Richie back for the All Blacks if that is the case he could indeed go on to be a great in the 10 jersey. The island nations will be stronger not only in this World Cup, also in the future.

                    I hate everything about this post

                    No to change the rules.

                    And no to players just moving to play for other nations just because they've taken the cash elsewhere

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                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                      @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2023:

                      My feeling is that Razor will try to change eligibilty rules and get someone like Richie back for the All Blacks if that is the case he could indeed go on to be a great in the 10 jersey. The island nations will be stronger not only in this World Cup, also in the future.

                      I hate everything about this post

                      No to change the rules.

                      And no to players just moving to play for other nations just because they've taken the cash elsewhere

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                      @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:

                      @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2023:

                      My feeling is that Razor will try to change eligibilty rules and get someone like Richie back for the All Blacks if that is the case he could indeed go on to be a great in the 10 jersey. The island nations will be stronger not only in this World Cup, also in the future.

                      I hate everything about this post

                      No to change the rules.

                      And no to players just moving to play for other nations just because they've taken the cash elsewhere

                      Yeah totally agree I would hate to see that ruled changed,Pick the AB's from players playing at home it has to stay that way is my thinking.

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                        I also think Razor will be confident enough in his abilities to not have to pick overseas players to win.

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                        • NepiaN Nepia

                          I also think Razor will be confident enough in his abilities to not have to pick overseas players to win.

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                          @Nepia said in All Blacks 2023:

                          I also think Razor will be confident enough in his abilities to not have to pick overseas players to win.

                          He’s already said he’ll argue for a change

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                            After last Saturday's test we are going to need a good 10 leading us around the park, DMAC is awesome not the answer. We had better get ready producing a solid 10.

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                            • DuluthD Duluth

                              @Nepia said in All Blacks 2023:

                              I also think Razor will be confident enough in his abilities to not have to pick overseas players to win.

                              He’s already said he’ll argue for a change

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                              @Duluth No, he hasn't. He has said he's open to the discussion.

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                              • StargazerS Stargazer

                                @Duluth No, he hasn't. He has said he's open to the discussion.

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                                @Stargazer

                                He said he’s open to selecting overseas players. Then went on to say he was appointed to challenge norms and that he would present his ideas to the board.

                                He is arguing for a change to the rule, we just don’t know exactly what change he wants

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                                • DuluthD Duluth

                                  @Stargazer

                                  He said he’s open to selecting overseas players. Then went on to say he was appointed to challenge norms and that he would present his ideas to the board.

                                  He is arguing for a change to the rule, we just don’t know exactly what change he wants

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                                  Stargazer
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                                  @Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:

                                  He is arguing for a change

                                  That's speculation.

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                                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                                    @Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:

                                    He is arguing for a change

                                    That's speculation.

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                                    @Stargazer no it’s not. He wants change. He’s not going to ‘challenge norms’ and make a presentation to the board about keeping the status quo

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                                    • DuluthD Duluth

                                      @Nepia said in All Blacks 2023:

                                      I also think Razor will be confident enough in his abilities to not have to pick overseas players to win.

                                      He’s already said he’ll argue for a change

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                                      @Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:

                                      @Nepia said in All Blacks 2023:

                                      I also think Razor will be confident enough in his abilities to not have to pick overseas players to win.

                                      He’s already said he’ll argue for a change

                                      Well thumbs down to that.

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                                        Old Samurai Jack
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                                        It'll take time but I think Dmac will become a very good international first-five. Shows glimpses of a great tactical kicking game.

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                                        • DuluthD Duluth

                                          @Stargazer no it’s not. He wants change. He’s not going to ‘challenge norms’ and make a presentation to the board about keeping the status quo

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                                          @Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:

                                          @Stargazer no it’s not. He wants change. He’s not going to ‘challenge norms’ and make a presentation to the board about keeping the status quo

                                          Your conflating two quotes

                                          Hello make a presentation to the board where her thinks the game is going, not to change the rules. Although he thinks we should her open minded about that.

                                          Doesn't matter anyway, he won't get it, even NZR isn't that dumb

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