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All Blacks 2023

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  • DuluthD Duluth

    @Nepia said in All Blacks 2023:

    I also think Razor will be confident enough in his abilities to not have to pick overseas players to win.

    He’s already said he’ll argue for a change

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    @Duluth No, he hasn't. He has said he's open to the discussion.

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    • StargazerS Stargazer

      @Duluth No, he hasn't. He has said he's open to the discussion.

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      @Stargazer

      He said he’s open to selecting overseas players. Then went on to say he was appointed to challenge norms and that he would present his ideas to the board.

      He is arguing for a change to the rule, we just don’t know exactly what change he wants

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      • DuluthD Duluth

        @Stargazer

        He said he’s open to selecting overseas players. Then went on to say he was appointed to challenge norms and that he would present his ideas to the board.

        He is arguing for a change to the rule, we just don’t know exactly what change he wants

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        @Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:

        He is arguing for a change

        That's speculation.

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        • StargazerS Stargazer

          @Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:

          He is arguing for a change

          That's speculation.

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          @Stargazer no it’s not. He wants change. He’s not going to ‘challenge norms’ and make a presentation to the board about keeping the status quo

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          • DuluthD Duluth

            @Nepia said in All Blacks 2023:

            I also think Razor will be confident enough in his abilities to not have to pick overseas players to win.

            He’s already said he’ll argue for a change

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            @Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:

            @Nepia said in All Blacks 2023:

            I also think Razor will be confident enough in his abilities to not have to pick overseas players to win.

            He’s already said he’ll argue for a change

            Well thumbs down to that.

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              It'll take time but I think Dmac will become a very good international first-five. Shows glimpses of a great tactical kicking game.

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              • DuluthD Duluth

                @Stargazer no it’s not. He wants change. He’s not going to ‘challenge norms’ and make a presentation to the board about keeping the status quo

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                @Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:

                @Stargazer no it’s not. He wants change. He’s not going to ‘challenge norms’ and make a presentation to the board about keeping the status quo

                Your conflating two quotes

                Hello make a presentation to the board where her thinks the game is going, not to change the rules. Although he thinks we should her open minded about that.

                Doesn't matter anyway, he won't get it, even NZR isn't that dumb

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                • M Machpants

                  @Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:

                  @Stargazer no it’s not. He wants change. He’s not going to ‘challenge norms’ and make a presentation to the board about keeping the status quo

                  Your conflating two quotes

                  Hello make a presentation to the board where her thinks the game is going, not to change the rules. Although he thinks we should her open minded about that.

                  Doesn't matter anyway, he won't get it, even NZR isn't that dumb

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                  @Machpants

                  I just checked the press conference vid. Those comments come from a single answer to a specific question about allowing overseas players.

                  Hopefully he was just speaking without thinking it through. If not, I hope the board tells him to fuck off

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                  • S SBW1

                    My feeling is that Razor will try to change eligibilty rules and get someone like Richie back for the All Blacks if that is the case he could indeed go on to be a great in the 10 jersey. The island nations will be stronger not only in this World Cup, also in the future.

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                    @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2023:

                    My feeling is that Razor will try to change eligibilty rules and get someone like Richie back for the All Blacks

                    IMHO, any AB coach thinking he can and needs to change eligibility rules to get a competitive team highlights both his ego and paucity of coaching abilities.

                    Focus on improving player development in NZ instead

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                      All speculation that was put to bed by Mark Robinson a couple of days after it being bought up in an interview to Razor.
                      Robinson if my memory is correct was asked the same thing, and responded that was not something NZR were going to do going forward.
                      The status quo would continue.

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                      • ChrisC Chris

                        All speculation that was put to bed by Mark Robinson a couple of days after it being bought up in an interview to Razor.
                        Robinson if my memory is correct was asked the same thing, and responded that was not something NZR were going to do going forward.
                        The status quo would continue.

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                        @Chris Yes it’s good that Robinson trumps Robertson on this issue

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                          But despite the partnership, NZ Rugby won't relax the overseas selection policy for All Blacks, which will remain in place.

                          Under the policy, players must reside and play in New Zealand, should they wish to be eligible for higher honours.

                          Incoming All Blacks coach Scott Robertson has previously stated he is keen to ditch the rule and would make that clear to NZR boss Mark Robinson.

                          His admission comes after Beauden Barrett, Brodie Retallick, Aaron Smith, Richie Mo'unga, and Shannon Frizell all signed contracts to play in Japan from next season.

                          Ardie Savea will also be ineligible for the All Blacks in 2024 after a one-year sabbatical to also play in Japan, as part of his new NZ Rugby contract.

                          But despite the incoming exodus of veteran players, Robinson has revealed there are no plans to change the existing rule.

                          https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2023/05/rugby-nz-rugby-won-t-change-overseas-selection-policy-despite-new-japan-agreement.html

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                          • DuluthD Duluth

                            @Chris Yes it’s good that Robinson trumps Robertson on this issue

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                            @Duluth

                            100% agree. I would hate to see us pick overseas players, it is a bad road to go down for our SR and NPC competitions.

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                            • StargazerS Stargazer

                              @Duluth No, he hasn't. He has said he's open to the discussion.

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                              @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2023:

                              @Duluth No, he hasn't. He has said he's open to the discussion.

                              Then close it down

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                              • ChrisC Chris

                                But despite the partnership, NZ Rugby won't relax the overseas selection policy for All Blacks, which will remain in place.

                                Under the policy, players must reside and play in New Zealand, should they wish to be eligible for higher honours.

                                Incoming All Blacks coach Scott Robertson has previously stated he is keen to ditch the rule and would make that clear to NZR boss Mark Robinson.

                                His admission comes after Beauden Barrett, Brodie Retallick, Aaron Smith, Richie Mo'unga, and Shannon Frizell all signed contracts to play in Japan from next season.

                                Ardie Savea will also be ineligible for the All Blacks in 2024 after a one-year sabbatical to also play in Japan, as part of his new NZ Rugby contract.

                                But despite the incoming exodus of veteran players, Robinson has revealed there are no plans to change the existing rule.

                                https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2023/05/rugby-nz-rugby-won-t-change-overseas-selection-policy-despite-new-japan-agreement.html

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                                @Chris said in All Blacks 2023:

                                Incoming All Blacks coach Scott Robertson has previously stated he is keen to ditch the rule and would make that clear to NZR boss Mark Robinson.

                                Coaching Jesus needs to do better than that.

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                                • boobooB booboo

                                  @Chris said in All Blacks 2023:

                                  Incoming All Blacks coach Scott Robertson has previously stated he is keen to ditch the rule and would make that clear to NZR boss Mark Robinson.

                                  Coaching Jesus needs to do better than that.

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                                  @booboo

                                  I am sure he will,I have the faith.

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                                  • boobooB booboo

                                    @Chris said in All Blacks 2023:

                                    Incoming All Blacks coach Scott Robertson has previously stated he is keen to ditch the rule and would make that clear to NZR boss Mark Robinson.

                                    Coaching Jesus needs to do better than that.

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                                    @booboo said in All Blacks 2023:

                                    @Chris said in All Blacks 2023:

                                    Incoming All Blacks coach Scott Robertson has previously stated he is keen to ditch the rule and would make that clear to NZR boss Mark Robinson.

                                    Coaching Jesus needs to do better than that.

                                    Then best to check back after Easter.

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                                      The RWC top turned up for my daughter. The squiggly designs really suit the kids gear. She turns 11 this year but I bought size 9-10 and it fits perfectly. Just need to get tickets now but already half resigned to watching in fanzone, pub or bar.

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                                      • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                                        The RWC top turned up for my daughter. The squiggly designs really suit the kids gear. She turns 11 this year but I bought size 9-10 and it fits perfectly. Just need to get tickets now but already half resigned to watching in fanzone, pub or bar.

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                                        @Billy-Tell yeah don't think I'm going to bother with attending games except for maybe minnows due to price. But might be keen to pop on the train to Lille to watch at a fanzone, you reminded me to check what's about in that regard.

                                        Found this bloody neat site, whilst it doesn't mention if games will be shown it appears bloody useful at first glance (fan guides to all the "rugby villages").

                                        https://www.therugbyjournal.com/rwc2023

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                                          Special thanks to Schmidt, Ryan, Lomax, De Groot and JB for bringing hope to the fern. Should be a cracker couple of months.

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